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MCaugusto 08-02-2010 04:19 PM

Anyone here familiar with this brand new screen that was shown at InfoCom and has some videos posted at youTube?
Apparently it uses " a sophisticated micro structure with 11 layers of optical film" and offers high light rejection, high gain and wide viewing angle; It also comes rolled-up in sizes ranging from 17" to 120" diagonal and according to the press release, it is affordably priced.
Unfortunately the company does not have a website right now (in progress) and no one to pick up the phone at 3.00 PM local time, hmm....
From what i read, it appears that the main developer/CEO of the company is a Taiwanese man that recently decided to advertise and sell the screens here in the USA, and i imagine he is now looking for partners to share costs.
Any more detailed info would be appreciated...
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Marcos

Jason Turk 08-02-2010 06:23 PM

I haven't heard of it...though it sounds interesting. Maybe they'll have a demo at Cedia.

yuweimichael 12-03-2010 11:10 PM

Yes. Marcos, I am with the company. We are trying our best to get our first screen out. We use optical layers to form a surface of screen. As you can see from Youtube, it's ambient light reject and still achieve high contrast ratio. If you look up others projection screen, they use dark surface color to hold contrast and light rejection. We are different. We use optical technology and components that you can find on every LCD/LED screen. I will let you know once the product is available. Thank you for your interest.

noah katz 12-04-2010 03:38 PM

yuweimichael,

What are the gain and half-gain angle?

Will it be available in 3.25 m wide, and what would the approximate cost be?

Link to the youtube video?

Thanks

MCaugusto 12-05-2010 05:38 PM

yuweimichael,
Since it appears that you are keeping track of comments here at AVS Forum concerning your company's screen and considering that it has been months since any more info has been posted anywhere online (and that includes the company's website), couldn't you at least give us some more details about the screen, specifically its composition, gain, size availability, estimated pricing and whether or not it will be shipped rolled-up or in a carton, attached permanently to its mount ?
Thanks >>> Marcos

yuweimichael 12-16-2010 06:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MCaugusto View Post

yuweimichael,
Since it appears that you are keeping track of comments here at AVS Forum concerning your company's screen and considering that it has been months since any more info has been posted anywhere online (and that includes the company's website), couldn't you at least give us some more details about the screen, specifically its composition, gain, size availability, estimated pricing and whether or not it will be shipped rolled-up or in a carton, attached permanently to its mount ?
Thanks >>> Marcos

Hi,We will plan to sell roll materials first and portable projection screen for pico-projector users in March. For roll materials, we will have minimum order.
We will let you know once you can see more info and order it online. Thank you so much for interest.

Michael.

yuweimichael 12-16-2010 06:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by noah katz View Post

yuweimichael,

What are the gain and half-gain angle?

Will it be available in 3.25 m wide, and what would the approximate cost be?

Link to the youtube video?

Thanks

Hello,

Gain will be at least 2.5 to 3.0 ( We are still not getting exactly number yet).
Half-gain angle will be 180 degree in horizontal direction. We will offer very affordable and competitive price.

Her is the link to Youtube Video http://www.youtube.com/user/microlitescreen

Thanks

Michael.

noah katz 12-16-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by yuweimichael View Post

Half-gain angle will be 180 degree in horizontal direction.

I presume you mean 90 deg half angle, as 180 deg is behind the screen

In any case, I don't see how gain greater than one at 90 deg is physically possible unless the vertical angle is restricted.

Otherwise the screen would have to be creating light.

What is the vertical half gain angle?

Thanks

yuweimichael 12-16-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by noah katz View Post

I presume you mean 90 deg half angle, as 180 deg is behind the screen

In any case, I don't see how gain greater than one at 90 deg is physically possible unless the vertical angle is restricted.

Otherwise the screen would have to be creating light.

What is the vertical half gain angle?

Thanks



Yes. Half-angle is 90 degree. Vertical angle will be restricted and we did not have correct measurement yet for Flexible Roll Material. We use the newest optical technology to enhance not only viewing angle but also the colors, and no speckle image. Everyone was surprised and pleased.

If you look at our angle demo shoot from Infocomm last year, you will see how wide is the viewing angle. Please click here for Angle Demo

Thank you for the interest.

MCaugusto 12-16-2010 05:44 PM

youweimichael >>>Thanks for the answers and product updates; Perhaps as soon as you have some samples you could ship them to interested parties such as myself and many others who would like to get a high-gain screen that doesn't have major compromises in performance, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, comes rolled-up for much/much easier shipping (Vutec Silverstar) and isn't retro-reflective for easier mounting options (DaLite High-Power).
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Marcos

ParanoidDroid 12-17-2010 02:27 PM

Im interested in this one also. I saw the youtube video a couple of days ago but havent seen much talk about it.

-you said competively priced...any idea on a range?

-any samples you can send out?

Makomachine 12-17-2010 04:37 PM

I'm subscribing to thread as I'm interested in any HG screen options that offer the fewest compromises at this point. Look forward to reviews on this when available.

noah katz 12-19-2010 12:30 AM

The videos look impressive, but it's hard to say without knowing what the actual light levels of the image and surroundings are.

It seems odd that there are no eye witness reports, at least that I've seen.

MCaugusto 12-19-2010 05:33 AM

I was watching again some of the videos on youtube and paid closer attention to the rear-screen + Microlite video in which they use a LG HS-201 presentation LED pj behind a very small 20" screen that's table mounted; To my surprise, the presenter then turns the screen fully around and the onscreen picture appears to look the same ! In other words, it appears that this screen uses the same optical material on its front and rear surfaces, which is highly unusual, to say the least.
Perhaps yuweimichael could chime in again with some added clarification ?
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Marcos

noah katz 12-19-2010 11:53 AM

Actually with such a small screen, just a few % reflectivity will give enough light for an image, and unless the camera had a brighter reference with both front and back views, it will adjust and make the image look brighter.

Makomachine 01-02-2011 10:11 AM

Any further word on this screen and have any AVSers seen it in person?

noah katz 01-02-2011 05:05 PM

I put yuweimichael in contact with darinp2, who can do good measurements.

I hope something comes of it.

yuweimichael, can you please give us an update?

Thanks

newfmp3 01-13-2011 08:10 AM

very interesting screen. I would have certainly tried this over an high power setup if it delivers. Sadly I just ordered the high power and if and when this comes out, it's going to be next to impossible to convince you know who to order another.

Very interesting tech in the vids. I've been saying this for years, why not use the same materials as a lcd/plasma. How they get that on a roll...amazes me.

noah katz 01-13-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by newfmp3 View Post

... why not use the same materials as a lcd/plasma.

Those are transmissive screens, FP is reflective

MCaugusto 01-13-2011 02:48 PM

After 6 months of waiting for "something/anything" more informative from this product/company/entrepreneur i am beginning to wonder if anything wil come out of it, which would be a shame considering the amount of interest shown both here and at youtube....
On a side note, i wonder what would be the best screen format to match to a native WXGA (1280x800) projector ?
If i use it with a 4:3 screen and match the 1280 horizontal pixels to the screen width, would that mean there would be horizontal bars on top/bottom of the image, since 1280x800 is a 5:4 format and to attain a 4:3 image i would need 960 vertical pixels ?
Conversely, if i use a 16:9 screen (optimized for 1280x720 pixels) and match the 1280 horizontal pixels to the screen width, would that mean i would be "wasting" 80 vertical pixels ?
And,how would native 4:3 material look like displayed on a 16:10 screen and on a 16:9 screen projected by a native 1280x800 pj ? Black bars all around ?
Thanks for any answers and suggestions, as i've been trying to figure this one out and make some informed decisions,
Marcos

ParanoidDroid 01-21-2011 02:59 PM

Really need an update on this one. Ive ready to pull the trigger on a screen but am waiting on this one.

schlitzie 01-30-2011 01:31 PM

Wow -- Still no info? This looks to have fizzled out - disappointing as the propaganda that was posted looked quite intriguing

ParanoidDroid 01-30-2011 05:23 PM

Ive emailed the company who is developing microlite's website. I haven't heard from them,but if I haven't by tomorrow then I will call them. Im going to try and get some contact info from them. Will keep updated.

schlitzie 02-04-2011 01:18 PM

Hey Microlite/yuwemichael -- It really helps your business to completely ignore an interested group of possible customers as you try to build demand for a niche product.

chesbak 02-09-2011 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Makomachine View Post

Any further word on this screen and have any AVSers seen it in person?

I thought it was great in person...

newfmp3 02-09-2011 12:38 PM

well it's too late for me now. If it comes out now I already got my screen. But I was very interested to see this screen...VERY interested.

noah katz 02-09-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chesbak View Post

I thought it was great in person...

Could you elaborate?

ParanoidDroid 03-01-2011 07:48 AM

Alright its March. Wheres the damn screen?

I called IBCnet since they are the ones developing microlites website. I talked to a guy who is going to foward my email to microlite. I asked about availability, gain, price, where to buy, etc.....so hopefully ill hear something soon. I wouldnt get my hopes up though.

yuweimichael 03-01-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ParanoidDroid View Post

Alright its March. Wheres the damn screen?

I called IBCnet since they are the ones developing microlites website. I talked to a guy who is going to foward my email to microlite. I asked about availability, gain, price, where to buy, etc.....so hopefully ill hear something soon. I wouldnt get my hopes up though.

Dear Sir,

Microlitescreen will not be ready anytime soon. We are very sorry for your wait and we have dealing with one of most difficult screen to make. By using the highest standard, it still not enough. We will do our best but like i said, the Microlitescreen will not be ready anytime soon. But when it is ready, it will be a suprise to anyone. Thank you all for interest.

Michael C

schlitzie 03-01-2011 12:44 PM

OK... is 2011 ruled out by "not anytime soon"?


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