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post #271 of 576 Old 12-08-2011, 10:20 AM
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Ready to hang. Do wear safety glasses when attaching the springs that tension the screen. I had one pop off while I was adjusting the bar and it shot clear across the room. It could do some serious eyeball damage. There are some mild creases, etc in the screen, but hopefully they should come out under tension.

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Good idea...that happened to me as well. I had a few minor creases as well, but they went away after a couple of days. I wasn't able to notice them under normal viewing conditions anyway.

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About time!

LOL. Geez I thought 24 hrs from delivery was pretty good.
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Well hung.

Question - when you all retract the masking mechanism, do you find you have to push the top mask up by hand - or at least help it along? It seems like the upper spring isn't really enough to overcome gravity and unless I push it along, it won't go all the way up and the wire will snag itself.
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Question - when you all retract the masking mechanism, do you find you have to push the top mask up by hand - or at least help it along?

Yes, but it kind of worked itself out after using it of a little while and now it works like it should for me. BTW, that Monoprice sticker comes off pretty easily and with a little rubbing you can make the glue go away for the most part also.
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OK - thank you. Maybe mine will work itself in too then. It seems like the difference between 2.35:1 and 2.4:1 is pretty negligible. On the 120" screen, it seems like maybe. 1/2 -1/3" on both top and bottom. I am not sure if it is worth trying to add another stop to the masking.
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Yes, but it kind of worked itself out after using it of a little while and now it works like it should for me. BTW, that Monoprice sticker comes off pretty easily and with a little rubbing you can make the glue go away for the most part also.

Ditto! Mine works perfect now, but it needed some help at the beginning.
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So annoyed that they won't ship them out of the states. :-)

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Grandview offers a 92", please please please Monoprice, stock it!
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Natural
Brightness -11
Contrast 8
Color Saturation 0
Tint -2
Sharpness Advanced (All 4 Settings) 0
Abs. Color Temp. 6500K

Advanced...

Gamma Custom 0 -6 -7 -8 -7 -7 -7 -8 5

RGB
Offset R 6
Offset G 0
Offset B 23
Gain R -2
Gain G 0
Gain B -25

RGBCMY
R 0 -13 -7
G -37 -49 48
B -7 10 -6
C 0 -41 31
M -16 -9 -16
Y -3 -9 8

Power Consumption ECO
Auto Iris Normal

Signal [Advanced]
Noise Reduction Off
EPSON Super White Off
Overscan Off
HDMI Video Range Expanded

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Going through the settings above, I did not see a value for skin tone. Also, In the "Gamma Custom", is the last number +6 or -6?

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Here are a few screen shots. These are from my wife's little Canon point-n-shoot on a tripod.

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Going through the settings above, I did not see a value for skin tone. Also, In the "Gamma Custom", is the last number +6 or -6?

Thanks.

Skin tone is 0 and the last gamma point is +5.
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Roger that. Thanks.
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slybarman, can you post an image with the masks down, to see the difference with an image projected.

My screen is being delivered today, but I got the grey 106" with masking.
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I can try to do that when I get home tonight. My co-worker (also a HT guy) asked the same thing this morning. I am not sure how well my wife's little camera will capture the difference, but we'll see.
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Hopefully these are large enough to see the detail, If not I can post links to the full-size images. These are the images exactly as they came off the camera, I did not try to tweak them. I believe this movie was in 2.4:1 as you can see about 1/2" of letterbox top and bottom. The picture definitely pops more without the big letterbox bars though. Of course, depending on how your computer monitor is adjusted, you may not see the letterboxing at all.

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What projector are you using? Those images look nice.
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I assembled the screen and have it up on the wall. It was fairly simple to assemble and the screen has no imperfections or wrinkles, that I can see.

The masking system works smoothly. This is my first screen with masking and it truly makes a huge difference in perceived contrast since my room is not totally light controled, it's in my family room.

I bought the grey screen, I had a laminate screen before, Wilsonart dove grey,I believe. It appears to be brighter than the old screen with no hot spotting and very unifrom color and focus on my Benq W5000, soon to be the W7000. I can't see any texture on the screen and is smooth to the touch. It is a bit thin, but it stretches very flat with the small springs used to fix it to the frame.

Thanks to everyone in the thread for recommending this screen. I am very pleased with the screen and would recommend it highly.
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That is good news. Maybe the material for the grey is different than the white. I have some vertical banding in my material as Nathan did.
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I have some vertical banding in my material as Nathan did.

I do too. It wasn't too bad to start and it seems to be getting better as time goes on. I think the grey material would exasperate the issue a little more. I believe it comes from the material being rolled up so it should work itself out. I have considered using my wives hand held steam cleaner to see if that would help but I really only see when watching hockey when I'm looking for it so I'll probably just leave it be.
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Can someone explain exactly how the mechanism for the masking system works? Is it a roll up contraption or are there removable panels or a slider thingy or what?

And has anyone attempted to make their own masking panels for the fixed frame screen?

Trying to decide if it is worth the approx $250 extra for the 120" version.

Is there a consensus on the grey fabric being worse than white for banding? I think I would be getting the white but if I had any noticeable banding it would probably be a deal breaker.

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YAY! I got an email yesterday saying the 120" multi-format came available. I ended up picking it up and it looks like I got the last one. Now I wait for it to get shipped...good thing I get a little break as the end of the year rolls around -- I can't wait to put this up!
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Where on the screen are you guys seeing the vertical banding? I guess I was lucky with my grey screen, as I can't see any at all.
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I am going to try to capture a picture of it.

Has anyone approached either monoprice or Grandview about the the issue? If so, did they have any advice?

For me it is mainly in the center of the screen. I am leaning toward thining that the springs don't have quite enough tenion for the 120" screen. The horizontal distance across the screen in quite far. If it was not pulling tight enough that might account for the vertical bands. I may try a slightly heavier spring on the side bars. I believe my local Ace Hardware stocks springs.
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Can someone explain exactly how the mechanism for the masking system works? Is it a roll up contraption or are there removable panels or a slider thingy or what?

The upper and lower mask both have internal spring coils, it appears. The rail system they attach too also have internal spring coils inside the side rails in a small plastic box that can be removed, if needed. The wires from the side rails attach to plastic tabs that are fit inside ends of the mask bars. When you pull up the lower mask bar, the upper moves in unison. Mine is very accurate on the distance each travels.

I am trying to figure out a way to add an ir controlled electric motor to this since I watch cable, blu-ray and also surf the net from my htpc on my projector. It should not be that difficult to do since the sceen is a couple inches away from the wall with the hanging system they use. A tubular motor that is attached to the wire system behind the screen should work.
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I'm waiting for Monoprice to tell me that a white 120" Multiformat screen is available for my Epson 9700UB.
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I tried to capture the vertical banding (which I believe to be wrinkles from inadequate tension) in my screen. Video quality is not great, so you will probably need to select 720p to be able to see it well. As you will see when I pan across, the wrinkles are only in the middle, not out toward the edges.

I also called Monoprice to see if they could reach out to the manufacturer to see if they could offer suggestions as to the best way to resolve the issue. I pointed the folks at Monoprice to this thread as well.

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Wow, that is fairly obvious. I checked my screen, the 106 grey, with a flash light and no sign of what you have going on. Maybe it is the size difference. The springs are not very strong, perhaps that's the reason.

Sorry to see your having a problem. I know how frustrating that is.
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I am not too worked up about it. I am pretty sure I know what the issue is, now is it just a matter of finding the best solution. Hopefully Monoprice and the manufacturer will step up and offer a useful suggestion.

I suspect the springs give enough tension for the 106" but they just used the same springs for the 120" - which aren't cutting it.
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I know there are others with the 120" on the board. Are you having the same issue as well?

My 120" multi-format gets delivered later this week, so I'm trying to manage my expectations.
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