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anyone else want to see this screen back into production? Reply with an AYE if you would like it back. I have a 2.8 and a 2.4 high contrast and the 2.4 high contrast doesn't even come close to the POP that we all know the 2.8 has. i would also love to see a 2.8 high contrast

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The high contrast 2.4 model doesn,t compare well with the new 2.4 material that replaces the 2.8 , To narrow a cone in the widths people want these days.
I think the move to eliminate the old was money spent in manufacturing the 2.8. Comparing the samples of old vs new 2.4 its easy to see its a cheaper made screen. Doesn,t mean thats bad in itself as the 2.4 is a good compromise overall.
It would be nice if they simply add the 2.8 and charge accordingly for their troubles instead of stopping production on it
I would like to have it back also as I,ve been looking for a wider version of the 2.8 I have used for a long time and might still get the new 2.4 if a big used 2.8 never surfaces

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I would like to see it come back as well and I have talked to DaLite's manager about this back when I got shafted on mine and got a 2.4 instead. My situation, and after all the nonsense I went through with Dalite, it does't matter if it comes out again, they aren't getting my money.

To compare the 2.4 hc to the original 2.8 is not fair, it is not meant to be the same screen.
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Aye



Really miss the old screen.
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Currently have a 120" 2.8 HP and wish I could get a large 2.35 so...

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It's a perfect match with my Marantz. I want to go 110", so bring it on back. I'm willing to special order..Da-Lite are ya listenin'?.
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I just got an En4k screen and will be selling my Dalite HP 2.8 16:9 133". Whats the going rate on the used market?
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I just got an En4k screen and will be selling my Dalite HP 2.8 16:9 133". Whats the going rate on the used market?

Shipping cost is high on an object like a screen.. So you may want to find out what that will cost first before you think about what it is "Worth" Local sale would be your best option but very limiting.
Having your location in your profile would help those on this board know if you are near them.

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Yeah, shipping kills. I ended up donating my electric 133" HP to a school.

One option is to sell just the material to someone who wants to make a fixed screen.

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I am in Nashville. I do have the box and materials so at least I could ship it with appropriate packing.
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I am in Nashville. I do have the box and materials so at least I could ship it with appropriate packing.

The problem is that something that long has to go as freight..

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I think Fedex will ship it.. I put the dimensions into my Fedex account and it accepted it... said around $100 to California.. I assume everywhere else is slightly cheaper.

But I dont want to hijack this thread any more..sorry about that... was just looking to see what I should ask for it...
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Lets stay on track, i want to get at least three pages of aye's i will be forwarding this to da lite to show them what the people want
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Bring the thread back from the dead, but AYE.
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I guess I forgot to say it the first time - AYE

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This thread is right up there with the one in the CRT forum to "Bring back CRTs", As much as I love my 2.8 HP and would buy another one if they still made it, Dalite don't give a rats ass! :-)

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This thread is right up there with the one in the CRT forum to "Bring back CRTs", As much as I love my 2.8 HP and would buy another one if they still made it, Dalite don't give a rats ass! :-)

Perhaps, if anyone is looking for the old 2.8 material contact da-lite directly as I recently managed to get a 2.8 screen by doing so (in Australia they still had some left). It may not be the same elsewhere but it is worth a shoot.

Bringing back crt's is never happening, the 2.8 could happen, especially as they still make the 2.4 if I am not mistaken which I believe is a reasonably popular screen material.
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I got an old 2.8 HP 106" about 6 years ago on a model b electric ... I was curious at what new screens have come about since so I checked the thread and was glad to see this thing is still held in high regard
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A big AYE from me. I just sent an email to info@da-lite.com stating the following:

About 12 years ago I bought a Da-lite 2.8 high power screen and have absolutely loved it. Over time some of the glass beads have rubbed off and it became unusable. I knew you quit making that screen and I have a 2.4 high power screen but it is nowhere near as bright and doesn't resolve details as well as the 2.8 material. Is there ever a chance you will sell the 2.8 high power again? I would buy one in a second, even at a premium price. Several people on avsforum.com share my same comments as it would be great for the added brightness needed with 3D even though I want it for 2D. Any insight you can give me would be appreciated.

I will post their response but I don't expect it to be positive but I would love another 2.8 HP. Any that feel the same should email them. There is probably a better email address for someone higher up the line and if someone has it they should post it.

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Just as I thought.......

Hello Mike,
I am very sorry but we do not have any plans to start manufacturing the 2.8 gain High Power again. We have also already sold all of the remaining material as well.

Best Regards,

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I got some stains on my 2.8 and was forced to change to the Carada 1.4
I would have gone with the 2.8 again in a heartbeat.
I'm thinking of putting the old material up for sale. It's 16:9 and the stains are in the lower left, so the top could be used for a 2:35 screen.
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Hmm...I still have a sheet of 105" 16:9 diagonal HP screen - the 2.8 gain material.

Sounds like there might be a market for it when I decide to sell it. (I replaced it with a much larger Stewart ST130 screen and have kept the HP screen ...well...I'm not sure why. I've considered setting it up as an alternate 3D screen, but probably
can't make that work so I'll probably end up selling it).

It is a pretty amazing material.
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Hmm...I still have a sheet of 105" 16:9 diagonal HP screen - the 2.8 gain material.

Sounds like there might be a market for it when I decide to sell it. (I replaced it with a much larger Stewart ST130 screen and have kept the HP screen ...well...I'm not sure why. I've considered setting it up as an alternate 3D screen, but probably
can't make that work so I'll probably end up selling it).

It is a pretty amazing material.

We have to talk eek.gif I'm using the Solar 4K 1.3 which is pretty much the same as your Stewart ST130 on a 2.35:1 120" diagonal screen. I too have the 500ES, I think you have the same or it is on order, can't remember. Anyway, I am on the fence about
running a curved masking single screen( with 2.4HP) v's adding the 2.4HP for a second electric drop down option. I have the Panamorph UH480 A lens, I believe you do too and that makes the decision complicated.

With the A lens on my current 1.3( flat screen) I am very happy with 2D and just about 95% so in 3D on my 120" screen. I'm thinking about adding 20% of screen size screen going to a 136" diagonal. I know this will suffice for 2D but I am fearful the 3D will suffer.
My samples of the 2.4 I have look fantastic in 3D and work well in 2D as well probably because I only get about 1.8 gain with my PJ mounted 12" below the screen top edge. I used the screen gain calculator to arrive at this number and I have a sample of the BD 2.7
to gauge the brightness. This in between position of the PJ on the HP lowers the brightness and increases the black level, I call it my hybrid location. tongue.gif

Bottom line is are you happy with the 130 compared to the HP overall or is that just from a 2D perspective ? The most common complaint about the HP is loss of black and viewing cone. One other reviewer said the image was flat on the HP in comparison to the unity
gain screen. To me , the blacks are a little lower but the contrast ratio is the same because the whites are so much better. The color has more pop and the picture ( from my three samples) more vivid , certainly better for 3D . As far as being less dimensional I have no idea
because I can only see the image on samples which to me actually look like there is more dimension.....funny thing.

This is where your comments will be helpful, I am really stuck with this decision. I should probably just give up on the curved screen option and get two electric masking screens and be done with it. One with the HP and the second a ST130 or equivalent. cool.gif

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Anyone using, or know of another using the 2.8 or 2.4 in a curved screen setup? Would be interested to know if it helps to minimize issues with the narrow viewing cone issues or does it not work ? I tried samples of the 2.4 in my HT last night and
angled the HP on the corners and then put them flat. When angled it increased the brightness for sure, I can only assume this would work on a curved setup for this reason but just want to verify.

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Hmm...I still have a sheet of 105" 16:9 diagonal HP screen - the 2.8 gain material.

Sounds like there might be a market for it when I decide to sell it. (I replaced it with a much larger Stewart ST130 screen and have kept the HP screen ...well...I'm not sure why. I've considered setting it up as an alternate 3D screen, but probably
can't make that work so I'll probably end up selling it).

It is a pretty amazing material.

If you are still getting a new JVC you may wanna hold onto your 2.8 material. With my new X700/RS57 the black level is much better than it was with the RS40 using my 2.4 HP 16:9 screen and fade to blacks are still black. The new JVC's are perfect for the HP screen.

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