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Location: Redondo Beach, CA, USA
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I think you get a little more contrast with the 08-85, and its off angle performance is a little better than the 23-23. But the 23-23's viewing cone is still pretty wide, and once you are beyond that, the brightness loss is gradual, not dramatic (like you'd see with a Firehawk or Black Diamond).
I thought the 23-23 looked very good. Others can chime in, but to my eyes, it wasn't like the 08-85 flat out smoked the 23-23. Keep in mind that I compared these materials with a 2,500 lumen machine lighting up 84" diagonal screens. In a different environment (lower powered projector/ larger screen) one might prefer the 23-23 overall.