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post #1 of 23 Old 10-26-2012, 02:29 PM - Thread Starter
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Hello,

I am thinking of moving to a larger screen for my dedicated HT room, from 104" to something closer to 110"-120"

The problem is I am limited on the sides of the screen... currently I have tower speakers on the sides, and basically the walls are limiting my ability to go beyond my current setup. So I am thinking of buying an AT screen so I can go wider and place the speakers behind.

I haven't researched for years this option, so wonder what there is today aside from the SMX line . I am on a reasonably tight budget. Would like to spend no more than $700 or so. is this possible? Also is moire an issue of the past?

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Definitely check our Seymour Screens. Good bang for your buck. SMX is def. expensive. Other options would be Carada or Stewart screens.

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you can take a look at the A4K material. Just won the CEPro 2012 BEST Award-Projection screen.

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I see no AT screens there even close to $700. Am I missing something?
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Definitely check our Seymour Screens. Good bang for your buck. SMX is def. expensive. Other options would be Carada or Stewart screens.
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A seymour av (the cheapest option mentioned) in the size you want will cost around 2x your stated budget of $700.

SMX is even more, Stewart is a lot more and Carada doesn't make AT screens.

4k (unnecessary unless you sit like only 8 feet from the screen) material will be over 700 just for the fabric.

If you are limited to 700 dollars, your only real option besides DIY is to have Jamestown Screens make you a screen and ask them to use seymour AT fabric. They will order it from seymour and cut it to size for your frame. You will need to assemble it but it is not hard - follow the instructions carefully, especially when stretching the fabric over the frame.
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My gosh, thanks.... those Jamestown Screens screens are so inexpensive!

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Found this one within my budget...

ER120WH1-A1080P2 (google this, it is an Elite screen)

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I had read a few reviews on avs about Elite AT screens and some people complained of moire and streaks on the screen.

I think Elite has a new 1080p AT material that has a tighter weave so maybe that is no longer an issue.
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I see Elite has a new AT material as you say. However only available in 2.35:1 format.

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I see Elite has a new AT material as you say. However only available in 2.35:1 format.

Depends on what type of unit you are looking for. On certain models, it is only available in 2.35 but if you are looking for a regular fixed frame, look into the Peregrine series. It is offered in 2.35 and also 16:9 in numerous sizes. You also have the option of purchasing A4K material only.

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If you are limited to 700 dollars, your only real option besides DIY is to have Jamestown Screens make you a screen and ask them to use seymour AT fabric. They will order it from seymour and cut it to size for your frame. You will need to assemble it but it is not hard - follow the instructions carefully, especially when stretching the fabric over the frame.

X2. If you want to stay on the <$700 budget but keep a reference quality image, then Jamestown is the way to go. Just this weekend I visited "nebrunner"'s incredible home theater in Omaha and it was textbook-perfect quality and performance, yet he kept within his budget by not only doing a lot of DIY but also using Jamestown for the screen frame. Jamestown makes a great product without sacrificing quality on what you'll be watching - the screen layer.

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Found this one within my budget...
ER120WH1-A1080P2 (google this, it is an Elite screen)

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I had read a few reviews on avs about Elite AT screens and some people complained of moire and streaks on the screen.
I think Elite has a new 1080p AT material that has a tighter weave so maybe that is no longer an issue.

Take a look at this post: http://www.avsforum.com/t/842769/the-official-seymourav-center-stage-screen-thread/1830#post_22540850

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That post is for a Seymour XD screen, not Elite. Right?

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Take a look at this post: http://www.avsforum.com/t/842769/the-official-seymourav-center-stage-screen-thread/1830#post_22540850

Correct that seymour av doesn't have a moire problem. I have a seymour AT fabric screen and no issues there. My post was regarding moire on an Elite screen.
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Either get some Seymour XD fabric and make a screen yourself or do what was suggested earlier and have Jamestown use the fabric and make you a screen. Either will probably come out similar in price.

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I'm worried that more than a few people on that thread stated that they can see the XD weave pattern as far as 12 feet, some say even more. (on white portions of the screen). I'm kind of eagle eyed so I think I may be amongst those that notice and would be bothered by it.

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I'm worried that more than a few people on that thread stated that they can see the XD weave pattern as far as 12 feet, some say even more. (on white portions of the screen). I'm kind of eagle eyed so I think I may be amongst those that notice and would be bothered by it.

Then you are definitely a candidate for a 4K screen... And the substantial increase in greenbacks required to join that club! wink.gif


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Double post.

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Correct that seymour av doesn't have a moire problem. I have a seymour AT fabric screen and no issues there. My post was regarding moire on an Elite screen.

Sorry, grabbed the wrong post. Needed the one right above, what I linked to. Here it is: http://www.avsforum.com/t/842769/the-official-seymourav-center-stage-screen-thread/1830#post_22540813

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Sorry, grabbed the wrong post. Needed the one right above, what I linked to. Here it is: http://www.avsforum.com/t/842769/the-official-seymourav-center-stage-screen-thread/1830#post_22540813

that's pretty brutal. cannot wait for the "measurements and side-by-side screen shots".
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@Davecraze, thank you SO much for the pointer to Jamestown! I was going to have my cabinet guy make the frame and get the CenterStage XD material from SeymourAV, but he's overwhelmed with just the cabinets, and from their web site, sounds like Jamestown will give me a much better frame anyway. VERY reasonable price for a huge 156" 2.4:1 screen with a rectangular aluminum outer frame. I just paid the PayPal invoice, I'm told about 17 days lead time. I can't wait to see what this setup will look like with my VPL-VW600ES!!! 4K, here we come.
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@Davecraze, thank you SO much for the pointer to Jamestown! I was going to have my cabinet guy make the frame and get the CenterStage XD material from SeymourAV, but he's overwhelmed with just the cabinets, and from their web site, sounds like Jamestown will give me a much better frame anyway. VERY reasonable price for a huge 156" 2.4:1 screen with a rectangular aluminum outer frame. I just paid the PayPal invoice, I'm told about 17 days lead time. I can't wait to see what this setup will look like with my VPL-VW600ES!!! 4K, here we come.
How did your Jamestown screen turn out? Since it has been almost a year, any issues with bowing or anything else?

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If you're constrained in order to 700 dollars, the simply genuine option apart from DIY is to have got Jamestown Screens cause you to a screen and ask all of them to make use of seymour AT fabric. They are going to purchase that through seymour as well as reduce this to be able to size for the framework. You'll have to assemble that nevertheless it isn't hard - follow the particular instructions cautiously, especially when stretching the particular fabric over the framework.
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