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It would be this but in the 120" size.

http://shop.elitescreens.com/ezFrameCineGrey5D-1.aspx
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Good morning everyone,


I've been browsing these forums for a few weeks now and garnered a lot of useful information so thank you all for that.


I'm getting a Viewsonic PJD7828HDL (won it at work) and while I don't have it yet, I've done all the room calculations, etc... to determine best screen size. What I'm not sure about is which screen material to get, I keep going back and forth between the Cinewhite and the Cinegrey5D screens. My room can be pretty bright during the day but I intend on getting some blackout pull down shades for the one window in the room so lighting shouldn't be much of an issue. Unfortunately the walls and ceiling are white.


The screen will be 110" diagonal, the projector will be 12' away and seating will be about 12'-13'. I intend on using this for pretty much all my TV viewing and 2D/3D movies/gaming at any time of day.


I've already built a wooden frame (along with led lights in the back).


Any advice on which screen to get? Does anyone have any experience with this projector?


I'd include an image of the frame currently mounted where the screen will be but I can't do so until I'm over 5 posts apparently!
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Good morning everyone,


I've been browsing these forums for a few weeks now and garnered a lot of useful information so thank you all for that.


I'm getting a Viewsonic PJD7828HDL (won it at work) and while I don't have it yet, I've done all the room calculations, etc... to determine best screen size. What I'm not sure about is which screen material to get, I keep going back and forth between the Cinewhite and the Cinegrey5D screens. My room can be pretty bright during the day but I intend on getting some blackout pull down shades for the one window in the room so lighting shouldn't be much of an issue. Unfortunately the walls and ceiling are white.


The screen will be 110" diagonal, the projector will be 12' away and seating will be about 12'-13'. I intend on using this for pretty much all my TV viewing and 2D/3D movies/gaming at any time of day.


I've already built a wooden frame (along with led lights in the back).


Any advice on which screen to get? Does anyone have any experience with this projector?


I'd include an image of the frame currently mounted where the screen will be but I can't do so until I'm over 5 posts apparently!
I was originally looking to get Carl's ALR screen material however, with a lack of reviews whereas the 5D is somewhat proven and having now found it on Amazon at a very reasonable price (http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-.../dp/B00XBZFKPG) I'm now considering switching to the 5D after reading through various threads myself.

I'm very on the fence between Carl's ALR and the 5D.
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I was originally looking to get Carl's ALR screen material however, with a lack of reviews whereas the 5D is somewhat proven and having now found it on Amazon at a very reasonable price (http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-.../dp/B00XBZFKPG) I'm now considering switching to the 5D after reading through various threads myself.

I'm very on the fence between Carl's ALR and the 5D.
Did you order the 5D?

I am thinking either the 3D or 5D. Can't find much information on what the difference is between the two except the gain. And can't really find comparison between the two screens.
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It would be this but in the 120" size.

http://shop.elitescreens.com/ezFrameCineGrey5D-1.aspx
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Anyone compared this material to the SI Slate .8 material? I pinged SI and they recommended the Slate material to me. Not keen to spend 5k on a screen tho...
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Gain and viewing angle - 1.2 and 90deg for the 3D, 1.5 and 80deg for the 5D


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Did you order the 5D?

I am thinking either the 3D or 5D. Can't find much information on what the difference is between the two except the gain. And can't really find comparison between the two screens.
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Gain and viewing angle - 1.2 and 90deg for the 3D, 1.5 and 80deg for the 5D
This seems about right to me. I've played with material samples of both along with the Carl's ALR. The Carl's and Cinegrey 3D are nearly identical. If the 3d is 1.2 gain then I would say Carl's is 1.3. Carl's has the smoothest texture of all three. The 5d obviously is the brightest and exhibits the worst hotspotting. Despite I do like the 5d image the most. It looks the closest to a flat panel TV. The 3D has the best blacks - if you are using a high lumen PJ it might work for you.
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Gain and viewing angle - 1.2 and 90deg for the 3D, 1.5 and 80deg for the 5D
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This seems about right to me. I've played with material samples of both along with the Carl's ALR. The Carl's and Cinegrey 3D are nearly identical. If the 3d is 1.2 gain then I would say Carl's is 1.3. Carl's has the smoothest texture of all three. The 5d obviously is the brightest and exhibits the worst hotspotting. Despite I do like the 5d image the most. It looks the closest to a flat panel TV. The 3D has the best blacks - if you are using a high lumen PJ it might work for you.
Hey guys thank you very much.
I am planning on buying EPSON 2045 3LCD 2200 LUMENS since you said the 3D has the best blacks I think I'll go with it since I am using it in a multi-room sounds like my best option.
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Did you order the 5D?

I am thinking either the 3D or 5D. Can't find much information on what the difference is between the two except the gain. And can't really find comparison between the two screens.
I ended up getting the Carl's ALR due to availability of the 5D but if what @aerodynamics is saying is true, I wish I had gotten the 5D....

I haven't got the Carl's up yet, been a nightmare to find poplar >8ft in length.
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Home Depot and Lowes both carry poplar. Otherwise go with oak - more expensive but an even better choice in terms of hardness and holding true.

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I haven't got the Carl's up yet, been a nightmare to find poplar >8ft in length.
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Home Depot and Lowes both carry poplar. Otherwise go with oak - more expensive but an even better choice in terms of hardness and holding true.
None of the Home Depots around me have any lengths greater than 8ft, haven't given Lowes a proper go yet though.
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Also, the 3D has a distinct warm tone that the 5D doesn't have. Very noticeable when comparing the two. I think that is part of the ISF certification.

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which of the 3 have less sparkles ? 3d/5D or carl´s ?
Which has the best extinction in polarized 3d ?
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Cinegrey 3D and Carl's show virtually no sparkling. Carl's material has a smoother texture though. When compared with the other two the 5D shows the most sparkling but it's minimal and when viewed by itself you really don't notice it.
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Cinegrey 3D and Carl's show virtually no sparkling. Carl's material has a smoother texture though. When compared with the other two the 5D shows the most sparkling but it's minimal and when viewed by itself you really don't notice it.
How about crosstalk in 3d, atleast card´s does not seem to have preticulary good extinction values. Has anyone tried polarized 3d on neither one ?
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How about crosstalk in 3d, atleast card´s does not seem to have preticulary good extinction values. Has anyone tried polarized 3d on neither one ?
Haven't tried 3d so I can't comment on that.
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Does any of you have any samples of the carl´s ALR? its too expensive for me to order the sample from carl´s as the postal fees are ridicilous.

Is there hot spotting on carl´s ALR ?
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A few emails back and forth and a Pic and Elite sending me new material . I was expecting to have to battle with them but NO , there like we see the issue and fill out this warranty claim for and will send you new material : )
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@GOT milk

First of all, the screen on the photos you provided in this thread really look awesome.
Do you still like the screen?
Have you you run into issues like hotspotting, even in optimal seating position?

My scenario is as follows:
I have currently an ezframe 110" with cinewhite material installed in my bright colored living room.
Seating distance seems similar as in your case. (sofa is on the one wall, screen on the other).
Both walls are at about 14.33 feet (4.3 metres) distance. My projector is located above my head (mounted at ceiling) and my throw ratio is at about 1.45 or something. Most likely I will swap my PJ at christmas and get a throw ratio of about 1.55.

I am noticing on your photos that your PJ is located at a rather low level compared to the upper edge of the screen. Is this intended for some reason?
In my my current case, my projector is a bit higher located than the upper screen frame edge. Do you think this might cause problems?

Could you please tell me your room width (as I am seeing your PJ is "located in the wall" this should be the distance PJ <-> Screen) and/or the resulting throw ratio?

This would be a big help for me to find a decision for or against a cinegrey 5D material.

Many thanks in advance!
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After fielding a lot of questions about the amount of light drop-off for ambient light rejecting screens, I decided to shoot a video showing the light Drop-off of my Cinegrey 5D screen. I think this video will clearly show the downside of a specialty screen vs. a white screen.
Incidentally, although i never had a chance to shoot video, I have done this test on other ambient light rejecting screens. Specifically, the DNP Supernova core with 23-23 material, the Stewart Firehawk G3, and the Black Diamond 1.4. Of all these screens, the worst performing by far was the Black Diamond. The other 3 screens (including the 5D) all performed about the same.
Hope you guys find this of interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBPJPJag1SE
Thanks Ben for all the great info! The last video really shows that this light dropoff will cause the sides of the image to be darker (hotspotting). Which is exactly what I'm experiencing.
I have some questions though.
For example take the last video.
1) if you moved the projector further back while keeping the same image size, would the hotspotting be reduced?
2) if you leave the projector at the same throw distance but move the viewer further back, would that help?
3) would moving the projector to the side and using lens shift help?

I have the projector at exactly 1.5x the screen width, and unfortunately can't move the projector or the viewer any further back, I'm wondering if moving the projector up/down or left/right would do any good.
Currently the projector is on a high shelf, around 7 feet tall.

Thanks in advance for the help!
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Im thinking about pulling the trigger on the 120" electric cinegrey 5d. Would a projector under 2k lumens be bright enough to support this screen?
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I have a 9 month old 110" 5d screen.
Going to order a black diamond 1.4 within the next week.
Will most likely sell the 5d, if anyone is interested.

As for the screen - it does the job. 1st screen I've ever had & paired it with an Epson 5030.....and not an Epson 5040.
Only reason for the upgrade is I crave better blacks & contrast.

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Gain and viewing angle - 1.2 and 90deg for the 3D, 1.5 and 80deg for the 5D
Do you know how well the Cinegrey 3D works for passive 3D?
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I have a 9 month old 110" 5d screen.
Going to order a black diamond 1.4 within the next week.
Will most likely sell the 5d, if anyone is interested.

As for the screen - it does the job. 1st screen I've ever had & paired it with an Epson 5030.....and not an Epson 5040.
Only reason for the upgrade is I crave better blacks & contrast.
Did you compare side by side between cinegrey 5d and the BD 1.4? I currently have 115" BD 1.4, and I am very happy with the ambient light feature and good black. However, I want to upsize to 135", and BD 1.4 does not have any bigger size than 120", and also will cost my arms and legs :-) I am thinking to go with 135" cinegrey 5D, but afraid I might lose some picture quality.
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Did you compare side by side between cinegrey 5d and the BD 1.4? I currently have 115" BD 1.4, and I am very happy with the ambient light feature and good black. However, I want to upsize to 135", and BD 1.4 does not have any bigger size than 120", and also will cost my arms and legs :-) I am thinking to go with 135" cinegrey 5D, but afraid I might lose some picture quality.
And what about SI Slate .8? I think that is better than BD 1.4 (no blue push and also deeper black). Size also more than 120". And maybe DEA, but max 122" 16:9 or 150" 1:2.35.
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And what about SI Slate .8? I think that is better than BD 1.4 (no blue push and also deeper black). Size also more than 120". And maybe DEA, but max 122" 16:9 or 150" 1:2.35.
The last time I checked, BD Zero Edge .8 max size is only 115". The 1.4 max size is 120", but I want bigger :-)
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