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Screen on T-legs?

I'm looking for a good quality, freestanding screen for my projector setup. This one by Draper is almost exactly what I imagined. Does someone else make something similar for a better price? I don't really want to drop $1600+ for this thing.

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I put together a temporary front projector setup a couple years ago. BenQ W1080ST paired with a ProjectoScreen120HD. The screen comes folded which was my only complaint. Took a number of months before the creases completely smoothed themselves out. Took a hair dryer to some of the more egregious creases. Just had to be careful not to damage the screen material in the process. The screen material was also quite challenging to snap on to the frame. Set mine out in the sun to warm it up a bit first which helped.



The screen straddled my front stage perfectly. The screen material snaps on to the front of the frame. The frame itself requires no assembly. Coolest thing. You just unfold it, the various joints lock in place. See below.



That being said, I've since moved to a new home. Want to go CIH, but can't afford to right now. Decided to just stick with my portable setup for a while holding off on all the other upgrades as well though I do plan to paint the ceiling and side walls this month in an effort to reduce the light reflections bouncing back on to the screen. Will be tripping out the front wall with black velvet as well in addition to creating some masking panels for scope content. Also still have to run the cables for my fronts up through the front wall into the attic and down to the other side of the house where all my equipment resides. Tackling that this weekend. In any event, the ceiling in my living room was about a 1/2 inch too low for the stand, so I mounted the screen to the wall instead using picture hanging cleats I purchased from Walmart here. Worked out beautifully. See below.

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And as you can see, the screen itself produces a breathtaking image. :-P


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Looks good, thanks! That's the design I want, but I think the size is too big for my current room. I ended up going with a Da-lite Picture King, which is a tripod screen, but hopefully it works out for now.
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Looks good, thanks! That's the design I want, but I think the size is too big for my current room. I ended up going with a Da-lite Picture King, which is a tripod screen, but hopefully it works out for now.
Good deal. Hope it works out for you as well. Have a great weekend!
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Thanks, you too!
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So, I'm back to square one. I just had to return my Da-lite Picture King because it was producing moire. Doesn't anyone make a fixed frame screen that can be mounted to a stand? Could I just buy a fixed frame screen and build a couple of T-leg stands out of wood or something?

The stand mentioned in the post above would be great, but it's too big. I need something like that, but 92" diagonal.

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Well, I just ordered the Elite Yardmaster 2. It has HD 4k material, so hopefully it plays better with my PJ. I'm a little scared to try Elite again after my bad experience with their tripod model, but we'll see. For $150, it's worth a shot. I didn't think it would be so hard to find a screen in this style; I guess everyone just mounts screens on their wall. Keeping my fingers crossed that third times a charm, LOL.
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Any of the Stewart fixed screens can come with T-legs. I think Da-lite, Vutec, Draper, etc. will do the same . The fixed screens are made to keep the material tensioned and will give better picture quality. The downside is they take longer to assemble and disassemble than portable screens and their screen material needs to be rolled up and not folded so they don't get creases.
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I didn’t see you had this thread also. Sounds like things are a go!

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Any of the Stewart fixed screens can come with T-legs. I think Da-lite, Vutec, Draper, etc. will do the same . The fixed screens are made to keep the material tensioned and will give better picture quality. The downside is they take longer to assemble and disassemble than portable screens and their screen material needs to be rolled up and not folded so they don't get creases.
This new screen I ordered today sounds similar, and it's tensioned, so I have high hopes Disassembly is no biggie, since once I set it up in my living room, it's staying there.

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I didn’t see you had this thread also. Sounds like things are a go!
I hope so!
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The Yardmaster arrived, and the design is exactly what I wanted, but as expected, there are some pretty severe creases in several spots. I haven't tested it yet with the projector to see if these lines are visible, but I find it hard to believe I won't see them. Will these go away with time? I tried applying some low heat to the back of the screen, and it might've helped slightly. Who's the genius that decided folding the screen into a tiny, little square would be a wise idea?
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I'm also wondering if I bought a fixed-frame screen, if I could mount it to the Yardmaster's frame instead of the wall? The frame is similar to what's pictured in the posts above. Here's a link:

http://www.projectorpeople.com/AccuS...4/Screen/27868

As long as the frame could withstand the weight, I don't see why this wouldn't work. I might have to attach the brackets to the frame with nuts and bolts, but otherwise, I can't foresee problems.
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I'm also wondering if I bought a fixed-frame screen, if I could mount it to the Yardmaster's frame instead of the wall?
The Silver Ticket fixed frame screen uses 2 pairs of keyhole brackets for wall mounting. You should be able to mount them on solid stands as well.
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I'm also wondering if I bought a fixed-frame screen, if I could mount it to the Yardmaster's frame instead of the wall? The frame is similar to what's pictured in the posts above. Here's a link:

http://www.projectorpeople.com/AccuS...4/Screen/27868

As long as the frame could withstand the weight, I don't see why this wouldn't work. I might have to attach the brackets to the frame with nuts and bolts, but otherwise, I can't foresee problems.
Any updates? I'm in a similar situation with my install. I can either go with something freestanding like the yardmaster 2 series, or a drop down screen. Leaning toward the yardmaster but wanted to see how it's holding up.


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Any updates? I'm in a similar situation with my install. I can either go with something freestanding like the yardmaster 2 series, or a drop down screen. Leaning toward the yardmaster but wanted to see how it's holding up.


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I have a Visual Apex ProjectoScreen 144" that we use in the backyard. The Visual Apex and the Elite Yardmaster 2 are more or less the same screen. I went with the VApex as they offered the larger size for less money. The crease generally fades away during warm weather use or can be relaxed with a hair dryer. I've never had a problem with the crease being visible during viewing. I've found the VApex to be a great product and customer service is excellent.

While you maybe able to attach a fixed screen to the frame from the Yardmaster 2 or the VApex ProjectoScreen, I would be somewhat hesitant as I believe the unit would become top heavy and possibly be a tipping hazard. The aluminum frame is light weight and has been designed to support the vinyl screen material without a frame.

What I would suggest as an economical T-stand alternative for a fixed frame screen would be to buy 2 of the T-brackets from Carl's screens, they are $9 each (It's called an FT Fitting). Next stop would be your local hardware store or HomeDepot etc. and pick up some 1" EMT conduit. Cut the EMT to the lengths you need for 2 uprights and the T-legs. It should be easy to attach your fixed frame screen to the EMT legs via hose clamps, screws, etc.. You can paint the "legs" black etc.. EMT is $6.34 for a 10 foot length at Home Depot at the moment.

Here's a link to Carl's for the T-brackets

http://www.carlofet.com/kit-fittings-information

VApex also makes affordable fixed frame screens that have received very good reviews.

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...k1fG0CqiVFc.97

http://www.visualapex.com/Projector-...VAPEXPRO9100FF

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I have a Visual Apex ProjectoScreen 144" that we use in the backyard. The Visual Apex and the Elite Yardmaster 2 are more or less the same screen. I went with the VApex as they offered the larger size for less money. The crease generally fades away during warm weather use or can be relaxed with a hair dryer. I've never had a problem with the crease being visible during viewing. I've found the VApex to be a great product and customer service is excellent.

While you maybe able to attach a fixed screen to the frame from the Yardmaster 2 or the VApex ProjectoScreen, I would be somewhat hesitant as I believe the unit would become top heavy and possibly be a tipping hazard. The aluminum frame is light weight and has been designed to support the vinyl screen material without a frame.

What I would suggest as an economical T-stand alternative for a fixed frame screen would be to buy 2 of the T-brackets from Carl's screens, they are $9 each (It's called an FT Fitting). Next stop would be your local hardware store or HomeDepot etc. and pick up some 1" EMT conduit. Cut the EMT to the lengths you need for 2 uprights and the T-legs. It should be easy to attach your fixed frame screen to the EMT legs via hose clamps, screws, etc.. You can paint the "legs" black etc.. EMT is $6.34 for a 10 foot length at Home Depot at the moment.

Here's a link to Carl's for the T-brackets

http://www.carlofet.com/kit-fittings-information

VApex also makes affordable fixed frame screens that have received very good reviews.

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...k1fG0CqiVFc.97

http://www.visualapex.com/Projector-...VAPEXPRO9100FF




Thanks for the informative post. Researching a bit more, I found this thread:


http://www.avsforum.com/forum/#/topics/1406360?page=1&_k=72hv6z



The installation in the thread is similar to the installation I’m needing to clear two windows. I’m going to go with some shorter length brackets as I only need 4”-6” of clearance from the wall.



What I was really hoping to find was a 2-stud extendable tv mounting bracket that I could use for the base of the frame. Then, I’d build a rectangular frame for the screen and mount it to that. Still looking, but I haven’t found anything so far. I only have 21” distance (width) between the two windows I’m trying to clear, so the bracket will need to fit there. I’m trying to avoid the brackets being visible. I have a few ideas I’m tossing around, and still a couple of weeks until I can get to the install.



I ended up ordering a Silver Ticket 106” grey screen. I think it will work out well, and I think the end result will be well worth the extra effort to build a mount. Thanks again for your suggestions. I decided a true fixed frame is likely a better choice if I can make it work.
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