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I am virgin when becomes to projectors and screens.
I have a vpl 65es.
I am from uk and here is the problem.
For you guys from USA its easy to get the best screen as all major manufacturers are from USA or Canada( i guess goo paint is from Canada).
I am looking to buy a stewart tiburon G2.
Here in UK tiburon g2 100diagonal is for 1440 pounds , but when i asked for for firehawk g4 then i have been told that it will be 2,4 k plus vat ( i am talking about fixed frames and waiting time is from 6-8 weeks in both cases)
so 2,4 k plus vat in pounds is a Lot comparing to tiburon g2 in fixed frame for half price.
In Manchester where i come from there is no display rooms , no chance for any samples , actually i found one in next town with only one screen in bat cave and one ambient light screen, i couldn't compare anything.
The point is that my room is not perfect , white ceiling , a lot of reflections , so i am looking for something ambient light rejection screen , and as far i know the Germans review are pointing the Stewart screens as top pick.


Can you pleas at least advice anything ?
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Hi


I am virgin when becomes to projectors and screens.
I have a vpl 65es.
I am from uk and here is the problem.
For you guys from USA its easy to get the best screen as all major manufacturers are from USA or Canada( i guess goo paint is from Canada).
I am looking to buy a stewart tiburon G2.
Here in UK tiburon g2 100diagonal is for 1440 pounds , but when i asked for for firehawk g4 then i have been told that it will be 2,4 k plus vat ( i am talking about fixed frames and waiting time is from 6-8 weeks in both cases)
so 2,4 k plus vat in pounds is a Lot comparing to tiburon g2 in fixed frame for half price.
In Manchester where i come from there is no display rooms , no chance for any samples , actually i found one in next town with only one screen in bat cave and one ambient light screen, i couldn't compare anything.
The point is that my room is not perfect , white ceiling , a lot of reflections , so i am looking for something ambient light rejection screen , and as far i know the Germans review are pointing the Stewart screens as top pick.


Can you pleas at least advice anything ?
Thank you Mike for your interest in Stewart Filmscreen.
We do have two distributors in the UK. Perhaps they can help you with arranging samples.
Please see the following links.

Custom AV Distribution Ltd
Heynes Green
MaidenheadSL6 3NA
Berkshire United Kingdom
info@cavd.co.uk


Invision UK Ltd
Alexander House
3 Hillside Business Park
IP32 7EA Suffolk
tom.garrett@invisionuk.com


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Happy New Year to all.

I've been doing quite a lot of research among all screen manufacturers to meet the needs of our space and needs. I don't have the ability to design and build a dedicated black hole (someday). Instead I have a finished walk out basement which is a multi purpose media room/family room. Compromise with the Wife. Given the space restrictions for the screen wall and moderate light, I've been having a heck of a time deciding between a small 92" screen and speakers flanking it, or a full wall 120-125" screen ALR, which means I can't have my cake and eat it too (have to lose ALR and go matte)

My sliding glass door and side windows are going to be treated for blackout. Most likely ambient light will be from dimmed overhead cans at 7' height. Screen wall is 10' by 7' high. Really want to fill it with a screen. Viewing is 15' back.

So in addition to being the foremost builder of screens in the industry, I'm here for I guess two, well maybe three reasons:

1. Have my cake and eat it too (Firehawk G4 Perf'd- ALR and AT)
2. Buy once buy right
3. Seems the owner of this organization also suffers from the same illness I do and have for decades: unyielding desire to take a metal tube, make it go 500mph at 8 miles over the earth and back again.

Looking to go with a 2.35 110-115 wide G4 Perforated or a 16:9 120-125" diagonal.

I'm a big fan of the masking panels for the Seymour Premiere, to black out for 16:9. I don't see this as an affordable option with this product, only expensive motorized masking?

Thanks in advance..

Feedback from those running the G4?
How far back does speaker front need to be from perf material to be effective (I don't have much depth either)

Any other thoughts appreciated.







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Happy New Year to all.

I've been doing quite a lot of research among all screen manufacturers to meet the needs of our space and needs. I don't have the ability to design and build a dedicated black hole (someday). Instead I have a finished walk out basement which is a multi purpose media room/family room. Compromise with the Wife. Given the space restrictions for the screen wall and moderate light, I've been having a heck of a time deciding between a small 92" screen and speakers flanking it, or a full wall 120-125" screen ALR, which means I can't have my cake and eat it too (have to lose ALR and go matte)

My sliding glass door and side windows are going to be treated for blackout. Most likely ambient light will be from dimmed overhead cans at 7' height. Screen wall is 10' by 7' high. Really want to fill it with a screen. Viewing is 15' back.

So in addition to being the foremost builder of screens in the industry, I'm here for I guess two, well maybe three reasons:

1. Have my cake and eat it too (Firehawk G4 Perf'd- ALR and AT)
2. Buy once buy right
3. Seems the owner of this organization also suffers from the same illness I do and have for decades: unyielding desire to take a metal tube, make it go 500mph at 8 miles over the earth and back again.

Looking to go with a 2.35 110-115 wide G4 Perforated or a 16:9 120-125" diagonal.

I'm a big fan of the masking panels for the Seymour Premiere, to black out for 16:9. I don't see this as an affordable option with this product, only expensive motorized masking?

Thanks in advance..

Feedback from those running the G4?
How far back does speaker front need to be from perf material to be effective (I don't have much depth either)

Any other thoughts appreciated.
The view from 15' requires as big a screen as possible. Don't even think about 92".

Go 100% full width either AT or horizontal LCR below 2.35 screen.

But don't go 2.35. Go 2.39, which is the true AR of (almost) all recent wide movies, to avoid top + bottom letterbox slivers.

If you have the budget, side masking panels would be wonderful for CIH and watching 1.78 TV.
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The G4 is a great material and one of my favorites for ALR. It has less artifacts than most of the other brands, its tradeoff is its ALR capabilities. Some other screens will do better with ambient light but have more artifacts. Since you have some control over that I think this is a good choice. Ideally, speakers should be about 1 foot behind the perf screen but they can be a little closer.


16:9 vs. 2.35 comes down to what type of material you like to watch. I am a movie watcher so I prefer 2.35 and that is what I own but I install all types. If most of your material is 16:9 like sports, gaming, TV and only watch an occasional movie than a 16:9 screen makes sense. It also depends on how you are going to do 2.35, zoom vs. anamorphic lens. Some installs I do use an anamorphic lens all the time and just stretch their 16:9 material. I have tried this at home to try it and no one seems to notice, except me of course. I find it a little more noticeable on TV than sports and for gaming it doesn't bother me at all. But, most people will never notice and some prefer it that way to fill the screen, YMMV. Masking would of course would be preferred but it does add to the cost quite a bit.
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The Stewart Microperf screen perforation pattern has over 30,000 .024 diameter holes per square foot. The total open area is 10.2 percent of the surface area. Most installations place the speakers 2-3 inches behind the screen surface. With that said, the optimum is 12 inches when measured by audio test equipment. For me, when testing, I can not hear the different but I do not have golden ears.
Also, when speakers are going to be placed close to screen it is recommended to use a speaker design with hi frequency horns instead of a single dome tweeter. High frequency horns distribute the sound waves over a larger screen area which allows better high frequency response to the listener.

The graph below is the audio sound pressure with dome tweeter speaker positioned two inches away from screen. This is prior to EQ of system.
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Thanks to all that have commented and provided me feedback and to Mr. Stewart for the info on speaker placement behind the perf. Unfortunately, I got the quote today for a Perf'd G4. I was good up until the perf part on cost, then out of the ballpark the ball sailed. So much for eating the cake. Thanks again all.


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Just like to say that Stewart Filmscreen is honored to be featured in February's "Scott Wilkinson's AVS Home Theater of the Month".
The room designer and integrator is by the highly respected Dennis Erskine. Here is the link to the thread and video.
HT of the Month: The Barber Theater
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Id like a bit of advice please (if possible)
I'm based in the Uk & there's not really much in the way of reviews over here for the Stewart screens..
Our viewing distance will be around 14 foot, so I'm contemplating perhaps around a 135" diagonal screen (electric), my problem is whether to get a Grey or a White screen?
It will be for film watching only & in the evenings, the windows will all be blacked out & hopefully the walls will also be on the dark side.
Only the ceilings & flooring will be a light colour, with this in mind can anyone please recommend a screen?
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Id like a bit of advice please (if possible)
I'm based in the Uk & there's not really much in the way of reviews over here for the Stewart screens..
Our viewing distance will be around 14 foot, so I'm contemplating perhaps around a 135" diagonal screen (electric), my problem is whether to get a Grey or a White screen?
It will be for film watching only & in the evenings, the windows will all be blacked out & hopefully the walls will also be on the dark side.
Only the ceilings & flooring will be a light colour, with this in mind can anyone please recommend a screen?

Thanks
I would consider a white screen, StudioTek 130 to be more specific if you considering a Stewart Filmscreen product, with the room and viewing conditions you state above.

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I would consider a white screen, StudioTek 130 to be more specific if you considering a Stewart Filmscreen product, with the room and viewing conditions you state above.
Thanks for the advice, been advised towards the Stewart Cima with Tiburan from a UK dealer?

All this is driving me nuts, i sometimes wish i had a more straightforward hobby
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Hi Don,


What's your thoughts on Tela vs ST130 Microperf 144" wide for JVC RS600?


Thanks.
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What's your thoughts on Tela vs ST130 Microperf 144" wide for JVC RS600?


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Hi Joaquin,
Pretty much no contest with a screen that wide. I would go for more gain to get the image brightness plus a little headroom. Your JVC is rated at 1900 lumens. When I calculate predicted screen brightness, I take a conservative approach. I discount projector published lumens by 40% allowing for some PJ image calibration, lamp brightness fall off, and sometimes over stated marketing lumen spec. With Tela 80 your screen foot lamberts would only be in the neighborhood 11.2 fL. With the StudioTek 130 AT, the net gain after perforations is about 1.2 gain and would give around 16.5 fL. If this were my room in my house, I would consider Ultramatte 150 material. This material is basically StudioTek 130 on steroids with and extra optical gain coating and you have closer to 20 fL.

The Utramatte 150 prefers a longer throw distance than the fore-mentioned materials. A minimum of 18 feet would be required.
See material comparison chart link.: http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/scr...ont-projection

Edit: Please be advised that Tela 80 name is being revised to, "Harmony AT woven screen." The gain specs are the same. Just a little tighter weave.

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Mr Stewart, I wanted to drop you a note of thanks for the Cima line of screens from Stewart. I recently switched from an A-lens set up, which included an SMX Procurv 2.35 Scope screen. When conducting my research and seeking advice from others that I respect (including the AVS sales staff of Mike and Craig), I was introduced to the Cima line. The price and performance ratio looks fantastic. I placed my order last week and am really looking forward to seeing the Cima screen performance in my room.

Stewart, CIMA® Fixed Wall Screen [00900], Model# CIF125SNEVEWX
Image Size: 49in x 115in (125in diag.) Aspect Ratio 2.35:1
Material: Neve -Front Projection Seamless
Screen Material Outside Diameter: 52in x 118in
Frame Overall Dimension: 54.125in x 120.125in
Finish: VeLux
Mounting: WallMount

My room would be considered a black hole (Light absorbent velvet panels creating a shadow box around the screen and screen wall. Black carpeting with dark gray walls and black ceiling (beyond the shadow box). I am mating the screen with the JVC RS500 projector, which is mounted 14.5 ft from the screen.

I am very excited to see the results.

Thanks again
Ron
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Mr Stewart, I wanted to drop you a note of thanks for the Cima line of screens from Stewart. I recently switched from an A-lens set up, which included an SMX Procurv 2.35 Scope screen. When conducting my research and seeking advice from others that I respect (including the AVS sales staff of Mike and Craig), I was introduced to the Cima line. The price and performance ratio looks fantastic. I placed my order last week and am really looking forward to seeing the Cima screen performance in my room.

Stewart, CIMA® Fixed Wall Screen [00900], Model# CIF125SNEVEWX
Image Size: 49in x 115in (125in diag.) Aspect Ratio 2.35:1
Material: Neve -Front Projection Seamless
Screen Material Outside Diameter: 52in x 118in
Frame Overall Dimension: 54.125in x 120.125in
Finish: VeLux
Mounting: WallMount

My room would be considered a black hole (Light absorbent velvet panels creating a shadow box around the screen and screen wall. Black carpeting with dark gray walls and black ceiling (beyond the shadow box). I am mating the screen with the JVC RS500 projector, which is mounted 14.5 ft from the screen.

I am very excited to see the results.

Thanks again
Ron
Hi Ron,
Thank you for your purchase of a Cima Neve Fixed screen. Your room sounds perfect for a flat finish matte white screen. Please report after install and you have a few movies on the new screen under your belt. Again, thank you.
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Thank you for your purchase of a Cima Neve Fixed screen. Your room sounds perfect for a flat finish matte white screen. Please report after install and you have a few movies on the new screen under your belt. Again, thank you.
More than happy to share my thoughts. My only current problem now it putting off certain movies in anticipation of seeing them on my new Stewart Screen.

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It sounds like you made a great choice, Ron. From everything I've heard and read, anyone who needs the best, nearest step up in gain from 1.0/ST100, the Cime Neve is it!


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Been thinking of upgrading my Stewart Fire hawk G-3(235.1)
She's 49'x 128" I believe.
The room is pretty much a black pit,my concern would be light from the screen spilling onto the speakers(about one foot from screen face and most of the speaker cabinet is a light wood finish(ash)





Was thinking Studiotek 130 or Studiotek 100
Have read 130 has some sparkle which can be seen at times
Wonder if my speakers would reflect to much light back onto the screen,THX.
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