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I was thinking of the stewart cima 2.35 screen for my room. not AT. mounted to wall. But a bit confused if the deluxe screen would be better since i have more screen material options? size will be 133 diagonal. projector will be JVCRS420. approx. 17ft. from screen wall. room is light controlled. any input appreciated.
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I was thinking of the stewart cima 2.35 screen for my room. not AT. mounted to wall. But a bit confused if the deluxe screen would be better since i have more screen material options? size will be 133 diagonal. projector will be JVCRS420. approx. 17ft. from screen wall. room is light controlled. any input appreciated.
You can get the Cima Neve in a 133" or 138" diagonal 2.35:1. So, it will work.

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I was thinking of the stewart cima 2.35 screen for my room. not AT. mounted to wall. But a bit confused if the deluxe screen would be better since i have more screen material options? size will be 133 diagonal. projector will be JVCRS420. approx. 17ft. from screen wall. room is light controlled. any input appreciated.
Gorgeous room! I like rooms that are fairly neutral and not covered in crazy bright colors. Jam the widest screen you can fit in there!

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Gorgeous room! I like rooms that are fairly neutral and not covered in crazy bright colors. Jam the widest screen you can fit in there!

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thanks, appreciate it. never actually did a build thread. maybe once the screen is in I could put one together. About the screen size, definitely going to go with stewart cima. wife thinks the 133 might be too much and is already threatening to sit in the back row. we'll see.......
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thanks, appreciate it. never actually did a build thread. maybe once the screen is in I could put one together. About the screen size, definitely going to go with stewart cima. wife thinks the 133 might be too much and is already threatening to sit in the back row. we'll see.......
I have a 130" (10ft wide) scope screen and I'm about 14' back (eye to screen). Not sure what your first row is but I could sit as close as 10ft from mine and be very happy. Any closer and I would start to see pixels. Tell her you're getting the smaller size and just order the big one and throw away the packaging with the details of the size asap. She'll never measure.

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In installing these I have never heard somebody say I should have went with the smaller screen, I have heard them say I should have went bigger.
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In installing these I have never heard somebody say I should have went with the smaller screen, I have heard them say I should have went bigger.
Absolutely. Never happens.

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A big thanks to Mike at AV Science for his help in my upgrade from a first generation Firehawk (2002!) to the lovely StudioTek 100. Also to Craig for letting me pick his brain as well. My First Generation Firehawk was 15 years old and served me well but with brighter and higher resolution projectors it was in need of an upgrade. Here is my experience.

I decided to go with the StudioTek 100 but it was a tough call with the ST130. The samples Mike sent really helped me decide. I did upgrade the room treatment to further minimize reflected light. The "Black" theater improvement thread was a great resource. With the older Firehawk I had grown sensative to the sheen/sparkle that was more pronounced in that first generation with brighter content. The ST100 had none of that. Artifact free and fanstastic. In testing if I abused the ST130 with absurdly bright cloud images and such I could see those artifacts minimally although for normal viewing I doubt it would have much impact. I also thought I may miss the added pop the ST130 would give for 3D. I have a 118" 16:9 with a JVC 520 about 18 foot throw. I have found the ST100 plenty bright in 3D on high lamp in this setup. I also liked that the brightness does not vary with the viewing angle on the ST100. All the seating outside the prime spots are getting a brighter image from before. It was easy to see with the samples how the ones with gain got grayer off-axis walking around.

The ST100 does fill up the room with dispursed light - especially when I put up a full white image. I think you do need full light control with very good to great room treatment for this screen. I already had dark gray carpet/ceiling and blackout material on front screen wall for a combined border of about 2 feet all around the screen. Side walls are midnight blue (dark) with a little lighter blue acoustic panels. For the ST100 I completed the blackout of the front screen wall around the screen. I added black velvet material for the speakers (non AT screen) and installed black velvet curtains on the side walls that I can pull out from the front screen wall if I choose. It is a narrow room so these help but I was happy to see they were not required for a great image. The velvet on the speakers was probably the only needed change.

I also want to give Stewart Filmscreen a shout out. The electric masking frame I bought with the Firehawk 15 years ago was a custom size. I was concerned how well the new screen material would fit the existing snaps. Stewart delivered with their great engineering and manufactoring as it went up wrinkle free with perfect snap placement. I was slow and careful and I had the old screen off and the new one on in less than 30 minutes. I did have a couple helpers to support the screen while I snapped it. Finally they packed the screen fantastic and I resused the packing for the old screen.

I OCD in me might still want to paint the ceiling black or use some other treatment but it is hard to justify as the image is fantastic. VERY happy with the upgrade and it was clearly long overdue.
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I recently placed an order for a 138 inch Stewart Cima Neve 2.35:1 fixed frame screen. I can't wait to test it out!!! Too bad I'm still missing a projector (for the short-term future). To mark the occasion in preparation of receiving my screen (and projector soon, I hope) I double dipped and repurchased Crimson Tide and Con Air, this time on blu-ray, since my original DVDs didn't even have the enhanced widescreen anamorphic feature that later DVDs used.
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fingersdlp,

Congratulations. Great screen choice. I went from Stewart's 1.3 material to the ST100 and I am truly loving it with my VPL-Vw1100ES.

Read the going black thread. I used Roscoe paint, dark carpet, and highly recommend velvet instead of paint 4 feet out on all sides of the image.
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Congratulations. Great screen choice. I went from Stewart's 1.3 material to the ST100 and I am truly loving it with my VPL-Vw1100ES.

Read the going black thread. I used Roscoe paint, dark carpet, and highly recommend velvet instead of paint 4 feet out on all sides of the image.
Thanks. I would have loved to demo a full size ST130 in my room for an A/B comparison. I am sure I would have been happy with it. The Neve was of interest as well but not for my screen size apparently.

Thanks for the feedback on the Roscoe/velvet. I have enough protostar flock to treat the first 4 feet of my ceiling. It will be a hard sell for the wife as the image is already fantastic. Nice problem to have.
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looking for 2.35 screen fixed non-AT. Reading about different screens and materials is a bit overwhelming. My question is how would 4K material be on the Cima Neve screen material. Would it work ok? Or are there much better options. Screen is a big purchase and just want to make sure I am kind of future proof. also how would Cima compare to screen innovations series 3? just trying to narrow it down. thanks

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looking for 2.35 screen fixed non-AT. Reading about different screens and materials is a bit overwhelming. My question is how would 4K material be on the Cima Neve screen material. Would it work ok? Or are there much better options. Screen is a big purchase and just want to make sure I am kind of future proof. also how would Cima compare to screen innovations series 3? just trying to narrow it down. thanks
Neve is a fairly plain white vinyl. It has no heavy optical coatings or perfs so it it will do fine for 4k.
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Neve is a fairly plain white vinyl. It has no heavy optical coatings or perfs so it it will do fine for 4k.
ok thanks- still researching a bit. so many choices.
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ok thanks- still researching a bit. so many choices.
I have a Cima Neve sample I could send you laying around. PM or email me if you would like.

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I decided to go with the StudioTek 100 but it was a tough call with the ST130. The samples Mike sent really helped me decide. I did upgrade the room treatment to further minimize reflected light. The "Black" theater improvement thread was a great resource. With the older Firehawk I had grown sensative to the sheen/sparkle that was more pronounced in that first generation with brighter content. The ST100 had none of that. Artifact free and fanstastic. In testing if I abused the ST130 with absurdly bright cloud images and such I could see those artifacts minimally although for normal viewing I doubt it would have much impact. I also thought I may miss the added pop the ST130 would give for 3D. I have a 118" 16:9 with a JVC 520 about 18 foot throw. I have found the ST100 plenty bright in 3D on high lamp in this setup. I also liked that the brightness does not vary with the viewing angle on the ST100. All the seating outside the prime spots are getting a brighter image from before. It was easy to see with the samples how the ones with gain got grayer off-axis walking around.
I've got the ST100 (@ 9 foot wide scope) and couldn't be happier.
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I just bought a used Firehawk for 550 bucks on Ebay. The seller does not know what version of the Firehawk it is so its probably the old versions, G1 or G2.

Does anyone know the differences between all the Firehawk versions? (G1, G2, G3 and G4) I could barely find any info about the old versions.

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On the back of the frame there should be a Stewart sticker with the model, generation, S/N, size, etc.
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I've got the ST100 (@ 9 foot wide scope) and couldn't be happier.
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Is that an AT screen ?
My guess would be no since all the LCR speakers are not behind it. But know that you can get the Stewart screen with or without the AT treatment.

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I have a 130" (10ft wide) scope screen and I'm about 14' back (eye to screen). Not sure what your first row is but I could sit as close as 10ft from mine and be very happy. Any closer and I would start to see pixels. Tell her you're getting the smaller size and just order the big one and throw away the packaging with the details of the size asap. She'll never measure.

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10 ft wide is a 140" diagonal screen if it is a 2.35:1 aspect.


When my wife and I built my current theater I went back and forth between a 110" or 120" 16x9 screen. I ended up with the 120" and when we were installing it she was like "this thing is HUGE!!", which I expected since the room before had a 78" diagonal screen. But after about a year I also heard her saying, we could have gone bigger. It is all relative. I am now having a 140" 2.35:1 screen with masking built by Stewart and should be installing in the next couple weeks. I agree completely, get the bigger one and just don't tell her. No way she'd be able to figure it out without looking at the spec sheet.

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10 ft wide is a 140" diagonal screen if it is a 2.35:1 aspect.
A 10' (120") wide screen is 130" in the 2.35/2.40 scope aspect not 140".
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A 10' (120") wide screen is 130" in the 2.35/2.40 scope aspect not 140".

Doh, you're dead on. Sorry about that. For some reason I was thinking my 140" quote showed 120" width, but it is 129".


http://www.displaywars.com/140-inch-...130-inch-235x1
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Doh, you're dead on. Sorry about that. For some reason I was thinking my 140" quote showed 120" width, but it is 129".


http://www.displaywars.com/140-inch-...130-inch-235x1
haha, no worries. The only reason it looked off to me was I have been going through every possible calculation for my new screen.

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Here is my comparison:http://www.displaywars.com/120-inch-...152-inch-235x1

I went from a 16x9 120" to a 2.35 152" screen which nets me almost 80% larger picture watching 2.35 movies! I wanted to keep the 16x9 size I currently had which was perfect for my theater room but the 2.35/2.40 movies looked horrible (so small) that I was left wanting more any time we fired up a movie. My goal was to basically keep my 16x9 screen but be able to stretch the screen out for scope movies. This gets me that. Instal is Thursday. Very excited.

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