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Thanks for sharing your experience. How did your screen come packaged? I have a bit of a tight turn getting to my basement, so I want to make sure there is enough room to fit the 110" down there. From looking at their website, the frame comes in pieces, so my guess is there should be no problem.

You will have no problem bringing the box(es) into the basement. I forgot now if the thing came in one or two packages but the screen itself is rolled up. Once in the basement you lay it out on a rug or old comforter (they even give you white gloves so you won't mess anything up with dirty hands). Be sure you follow the directions as each piece has a certain way to go. There are are arrows on the frame so it is almost impossible to foul it up. One person can do it but two is better as you must stretch the screen as you attach it to the frame. You will need two people anyway to hang it (which I did) or, attach the mount to the wall if that is the way you want to go. If you choose to assemble it totally in the garage and then bring the entire screen to the basement you may have some difficulty. A 110" screen is bigger than you think plus you have two to three inches of border on each side and top and bottom.

I've attached a photo of my Carada 106".
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You will have no problem bringing the box(es) into the basement. I forgot now if the thing came in one or two packages but the screen itself is rolled up. Once in the basement you lay it out on a rug or old comforter (they even give you white gloves so you won't mess anything up with dirty hands). Be sure you follow the directions as each piece has a certain way to go. There are are arrows on the frame so it is almost impossible to foul it up. One person can do it but two is better as you must stretch the screen as you attach it to the frame. You will need two people anyway to hang it (which I did) or, attach the mount to the wall if that is the way you want to go. If you choose to assemble it totally in the garage and then bring the entire screen to the basement you may have some difficulty. A 110" screen is bigger than you think plus you have two to three inches of border on each side and top and bottom.

I've attached a photo of my Carada 106".

Thanks for the information on packing. I will definitely be assembling the unit in the basement. Looks like you have a nice setup. I wish I had those dark walls, but for now it looks like we will only have an off-white color. Fortunately, the room is going to be 99% light controlled. Can't convince my wife to pay out for painting the walls a darker shade. She's been great though, letting me get an entirely new setup, so I can't complain too much.
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Thanks for the information on packing. I will definitely be assembling the unit in the basement. Looks like you have a nice setup. I wish I had those dark walls, but for now it looks like we will only have an off-white color. Fortunately, the room is going to be 99% light controlled. Can't convince my wife to pay out for painting the walls a darker shade. She's been great though, letting me get an entirely new setup, so I can't complain too much.

Son, I'm passed my 60th birthday so let me give you a tip about women. First, don't ever tell her you have to pay someone to paint a wall. That's like paying someone to come in to turn on the lights. If you can put together a screen and home theater set-up you can damn well paint a wall.

Second, it is give and take with a woman. Even a newly married person knows that. The secret is to try to take more than you give but let her think all along it is her idea or at least to her benefit. In this case you can win the upper hand simply by saying don't worry about the "pay out". "I'll bust my hump and do it FOR YOU". See what you are doing? When she says, "What, for ME?". Say of course, I'm building this thing for US and I want you and I to have the most enjoyable time together watching all our favorite shows and movies. You can't do this unless we make the wall a little darker (never tell her just how dark it will be because once it is done she may not like it but she'll accept it).

Now she is thinking. If you two are in to it, you can even tell her how much more enhanced and exciting watching porn together on a big screen will be. Well, I hope you get the drift. You can see how dark my walls are (panel) and dark walls are, while not mandatory, they are desirable. You can do it kid! Let me know how you make out.

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My wife was against dark walls in our basement until we went to a professional home theater. She saw dark burgundy(sp?) walls and really like the looks. She also allowed me to paint some of the ceiling tiles black and when she saw the difference, she was pleased. Sometimes it is a matter of seeing and then believing. I certainly believe in the give and take also. She has a new kitchen, I have a new home theater. Hers cost more, but we are both happy.
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My wife was against dark walls in our basement until we went to a professional home theater. She saw dark burgundy(sp?) walls and really like the looks. She also allowed me to paint some of the ceiling tiles black and when she saw the difference, she was pleased. Sometimes it is a matter of seeing and then believing. I certainly believe in the give and take also. She has a new kitchen, I have a new home theater. Hers cost more, but we are both happy.

That aboy! Glad to hear it all worked out. How about some pics?

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I have been using a sony black pearl projector on my textured white wall for over one year. I, too, just pulled the trigger on a Carada BW screen (106" in my case) and am anxious to see the results!

118" BW with the same projector you have. I've had this setup for over a year and with 500 plus hours on the bulb, I'm as happy with the Carada as the first day I hung it. Very good combo, in my opinion.

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my 118" BW criterion arrived today, surprise from my wife. She was tired of me dragging my A$$

Your wife is a keeper.

I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have for over a year now. That border is pretty and effective.

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I'm thinking of getting Carada screen (most likely 1.78 @ 118" or 126") and Sony VPL-HW10 for my dedicated HT that is enclosed with no windows I'm in the process of building right now.

Some questions I have are:
1. What is the difference between the Criterion & Precision series?
2. I was thinking of going with Briliant White finish. What determines which one is the best for you?
3. Any feedback about using Carada screen with Sony VPL-HW10? Which screen?
4. Where do you purchase these screens? Best price?

Thanks.
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I'm thinking of getting Carada screen (most likely 1.78 @ 118" or 126") and Sony VPL-HW10 for my dedicated HT that is enclosed with no windows I'm in the process of building right now.

Some questions I have are:
1. What is the difference between the Criterion & Precision series?
2. I was thinking of going with Briliant White finish. What determines which one is the best for you?
3. Any feedback about using Carada screen with Sony VPL-HW10? Which screen?
4. Where do you purchase these screens? Best price?

Thanks.

The Criterion has a 3" bevelled frame, whereas the Precision has a flat 2" frame. If you have the space, you're probably best to go with a Criterion, but I just got a 118" Precision for my HW10 last week and I'm very happy with it. (if I went with a Criterion I'd have had to go with a 10% smaller image)

See here: http://www.carada.com/Projection-Screen-Comparison.aspx


I chose the brilliant white screen material as it was the most neutral I have been able to find. (I recently tested various Carada and Da-Lite samples with my i1Pro Spectrophotometerresults here) I also went with it for the 1.4 gain as I was a little concerned about light output based on Projector Central's calculator.

My throw distance is approximately 13ft and the HW10 is almost at maximum zoom to fill the screen. I do find the image to be a bit bright for my tastes so I'm having to use the bulb in low brightness mode with a manual iris setting of 40 or so. While that may sound bad, it's actually a good thing reallyit means that when the bulb dims over time (apparently most bulbs lose around 30% brightness in the first few hundred hours) I can just open up the iris and still have a bright image. That said, I do now wish that the auto iris setting on the HW10 had some sort of range control so that I could have set the maximum to 40 so things weren't too bright as it does improve the contrast in some scenes.


I must say that there was one thing I was left a little disappointed with though. The black levels on the screen vs projecting onto a flat wall are perceptibly worse. They aren't actually worse, but because the image is now framed, I now perceive letterboxing to have poor black levels, rather than simply not noticing it before.

E.g. projecting on to a white wall when the projector arrived:



While the walls above and below are far from black, you don't actually notice it when watchingyou only see the picture.


Projecting onto the Carada screen (note: the image isn't centredI need to get a different wall bracket as the one I have keeps drifting to the left)


The first thing I want to say is to ignore the shadow on the second image. I took that just after calibrating the screen to test something (comparing normal/wide colour space when fully calibratedhard to judge objectively as you have to change a few settings and can't just A/B it) and hadn't moved my i1Pro out of the way in case I was going to take more measurements.

But as you can see, the fact that the 2.35:1 bars aren't black is a lot more noticeable now that the image is framed by the screen and the black velvet on the walls.

The wide viewing angle of the material used also means that reflections off the side walls/ceiling have quite a big effect on contrast. (which should hopefully be eliminated once the ceiling and walls are fully covered)

None of this is specifically a problem with the Carada screen thoughit would have been the case with any screen. (but perhaps one with a narrower viewing angle would have been a better choice for my room)



As far as I know, you can only purchase Carada screens directly, but they are very reasonably priced for the quality of screen you're getting.

I had very quick responses from Carada when I emailed them, and had no problems getting one sent out to the UK. Even with the shipping costs (which were fair) the screen was competitively priced.
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Guys, I need your advice on a new screen, right now I have a 92'' Severston Cinema Grey, which I really like, but now I have the room to go bigger (23x23 room). I am going to put it up for sale on avs and wants it sells its upgrade time.

Any suggestions, room under construction as we speak, light controlled, so I was hoping to go with the 126'' or 134'' Carada BW. What do you guys think?

Right now I have the Panasonic AX200, but will have the new EPSON 6500UB in the future, so I must plan for that projector.

Any help will be appreciated.
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I'm thinking of getting Carada screen (most likely 1.78 @ 118" or 126") and Sony VPL-HW10 for my dedicated HT that is enclosed with no windows I'm in the process of building right now.

Some questions I have are:
1. What is the difference between the Criterion & Precision series?
2. I was thinking of going with Briliant White finish. What determines which one is the best for you?
3. Any feedback about using Carada screen with Sony VPL-HW10? Which screen?
4. Where do you purchase these screens? Best price?

Thanks.


SonyHome

Just like what andrewfee said, the main differents is larger bevelled frame, I am using 126" Criterion BW with the sony vpl-hw10. All I can say is wow my old screen was panoview 120" and the gain they rated was 1.8.
At first I was worried about the differents I will be losing with the carada screen, but boy was I wrong. Not only did I not notice any lost in the light output I was amazed by how the valvet frame looked.

As for the best price, I dont think you can find a better price, since you order directly from them.

Good luck and trust me you can't go wrong with them, they are by far the best company I had ever delt with. From the time of purchased to after the sales.
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Those with screens between 102" and 112":
How far apart are the mounting hangers? How many hangers does the screen use? I am currently setting up my screen wall, and would like to know where to add some 2x4s.
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Thanks for all the info guys. After much going back and forth between Wilsonart DW, Da-Lite HP, and Carada BW, I finally pulled the trigger on a Carada Criterion 118" BW 1.78:1. I have an Epson 6500ub mounted on an 8' ceiling, 14' away. Seating at 13-14'. Good but not perfect light control. Light walls. Currently using Do-able board.

The reasons:

1) I "see" the Do-able board, and I just did not want to risk the time and effort it might take to make sure that I have a blemish-free Wilsonart piece. Plus the uncertainties of mounting for this non-handyman.

2) The Da-Lite HP was tempting, but with a ceiling mount and a bright projector, I thought the HP would not be optimal. The comparably priced HP screen (perm-wall) is not close to the build quality of the Carada, and poorly finished. Might be OK in a dedicated theater, but not in a family room just off the kitchen.

3) Universal happiness with the Carada BW. I did not see a single negative comment on the Carada BW after searching around the web. Remarkable!

Anyway, thanks for all the help and I will report back on my install/impressions compared to the Do-able board.
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Here you go:

http://www.carada.com/projector-medi...structions.pdf

Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.
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Thanks for all the info guys. After much going back and forth between Wilsonart DW, Da-Lite HP, and Carada BW, I finally pulled the trigger on a Carada Criterion 118" BW 1.78:1.

I've had that screen for quite a while now, and I suspect you'll be very pleased with your choice.

I wished Carada would come out with a masking system that one could apply top and bottom manually. I'm not sure it would cannibalize their Masquerade sales so much; people who can afford that will buy it. I've tried coming up with a couple of things, but they just haven't panned out like I thought they would. I have looked at the other projects that folks on the AVS DIY screen forum have come up with.

The best I can figure is it has to be lightweight and clamp to the sides of the screen without damaging the black hole coating. And they need to be 12" wide panels so they can be moved up and down to accommodate different aspect ratios.

I think there's a market for this, but it needs to be designed and built professionally.

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The Criterion has a 3" bevelled frame, whereas the Precision has a flat 2" frame. If you have the space, you're probably best to go with a Criterion, but I just got a 118" Precision for my HW10 last week and I'm very happy with it. (if I went with a Criterion I'd have had to go with a 10% smaller image)

See here: http://www.carada.com/Projection-Screen-Comparison.aspx


I chose the brilliant white screen material as it was the most neutral I have been able to find. (I recently tested various Carada and Da-Lite samples with my i1Pro Spectrophotometerresults here) I also went with it for the 1.4 gain as I was a little concerned about light output based on Projector Central's calculator.

My throw distance is approximately 13ft and the HW10 is almost at maximum zoom to fill the screen. I do find the image to be a bit bright for my tastes so I'm having to use the bulb in low brightness mode with a manual iris setting of 40 or so. While that may sound bad, it's actually a good thing reallyit means that when the bulb dims over time (apparently most bulbs lose around 30% brightness in the first few hundred hours) I can just open up the iris and still have a bright image. That said, I do now wish that the auto iris setting on the HW10 had some sort of range control so that I could have set the maximum to 40 so things weren't too bright as it does improve the contrast in some scenes.


I must say that there was one thing I was left a little disappointed with though. The black levels on the screen vs projecting onto a flat wall are perceptibly worse. They aren't actually worse, but because the image is now framed, I now perceive letterboxing to have poor black levels, rather than simply not noticing it before.

E.g. projecting on to a white wall when the projector arrived:



While the walls above and below are far from black, you don't actually notice it when watchingyou only see the picture.


Projecting onto the Carada screen (note: the image isn't centredI need to get a different wall bracket as the one I have keeps drifting to the left)


The first thing I want to say is to ignore the shadow on the second image. I took that just after calibrating the screen to test something (comparing normal/wide colour space when fully calibratedhard to judge objectively as you have to change a few settings and can't just A/B it) and hadn't moved my i1Pro out of the way in case I was going to take more measurements.

But as you can see, the fact that the 2.35:1 bars aren't black is a lot more noticeable now that the image is framed by the screen and the black velvet on the walls.

The wide viewing angle of the material used also means that reflections off the side walls/ceiling have quite a big effect on contrast. (which should hopefully be eliminated once the ceiling and walls are fully covered)

None of this is specifically a problem with the Carada screen thoughit would have been the case with any screen. (but perhaps one with a narrower viewing angle would have been a better choice for my room)



As far as I know, you can only purchase Carada screens directly, but they are very reasonably priced for the quality of screen you're getting.

I had very quick responses from Carada when I emailed them, and had no problems getting one sent out to the UK. Even with the shipping costs (which were fair) the screen was competitively priced.

andrewfee,
Image on the second one is amzaing. Colors look life like! I don't see the black level thing you are talking about on the second image. Image does really look good to me.

For the screen size I'm wanting I think I would also have to run the vpl-hw10 at maximum zoom. Is there any drawback to running the project at maximum zoom? Do you loose picture quality vs. something at lower zoom? I'm planning to put a 2' wide sofit around the HT room mainly for looks and planned on putting the project in the higher part of the ceiling but now I may need to mount it at the back soffit of the room to get more distance. Do you see any issues with this? Soffit will be about 6 - 10" high (not sure yet) and my ceiling height is 8'..

Also does the mount you use make a difference on how far you mount this from the back wall? I may need every inch of the space so I may have to mount it as close as I can to the back wall. I was thinking of using Chief RPAU Projector Mount. What mount do you recommend for VPL-HW10?

Thanks.
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Just like what andrewfee said, the main differents is larger bevelled frame, I am using 126" Criterion BW with the sony vpl-hw10. All I can say is wow my old screen was panoview 120" and the gain they rated was 1.8.
At first I was worried about the differents I will be losing with the carada screen, but boy was I wrong. Not only did I not notice any lost in the light output I was amazed by how the valvet frame looked.

As for the best price, I dont think you can find a better price, since you order directly from them.

Good luck and trust me you can't go wrong with them, they are by far the best company I had ever delt with. From the time of purchased to after the sales.

b1pkkf26,
How far back did you mount your vpl-hw10 for the 126" screen? What mount are you using?

I would love to go bigger on the screen but since I planned on having a screen wall 2' infront of the front wall my useable space shrank to 13.5'. Also I planned to put 2' wide soffit around the seating area so if I was to put the projector at the high part of the ceiling then maximum throw distance would be 11.5' but with project depth it would be more like 10.5'. I may have to not do the soffit or mount the project on the soffit even though this will lower the project 6-10" more.

How noisy is this thing? Do you know the db rating for vpl-hw10? I looked on the sony site but they didn't have this listed.

Thanks.
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Currently I have a RPTV. I've never had a FP. Since I have a new Home Theater room with excellent light control I was thinking of getting a JVC HD750 and a Carada 88" screen. I had a question about the Classic Cinema verses the Brilliant White screen material.

I have to place the projector 14' from the screen. With this projector that gives me 20FL of light with the Classic Cinema screen. 28FL with the Brilliant White screen. Finally, the calculator I found gives this result with a 103" image. I will only be projecting an 88" image, so I was thinking that would increase the brightness some.

My question is, what is the drawback to a brighter image? 28FL isn't enough to create eyestrain so I'm confused as to why the Brilliant White isn't the obvious choice? Do these higher gain screens reduce the black level?
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Currently I have a RPTV. I've never had a FP. Since I have a new Home Theater room with excellent light control I was thinking of getting a JVC HD750 and a Carada 88" screen. I had a question about the Classic Cinema verses the Brilliant White screen material.

I have to place the projector 14' from the screen. With this projector that gives me 20FL of light with the Classic Cinema screen. 28FL with the Brilliant White screen. Finally, the calculator I found gives this result with a 103" image. I will only be projecting an 88" image, so I was thinking that would increase the brightness some.

My question is, what is the drawback to a brighter image? 28FL isn't enough to create eyestrain so I'm confused as to why the Brilliant White isn't the obvious choice? Do these higher gain screens reduce the black level?

Target light level is very much a personal preference. For myself I find anything greater than 15 fL maximum too bright in a completely dark room. I use about 30 fL maximum for guests when watching football and a little light in the room so people can exit and enter easily. Raising the maximum level will also raise the black level with it. For this reason many people like levels as low as 8 fL to get darker blacks. People that have vision problems are the ones that I find consistently like very bright images and 28 fL may be too low for them.

The beauty of the RS20 is you have the iris and lamp flexibility to set the light output where you want if you do not push screen size to the limit.

Higher gain can reduce the effect of scattered light, but it will negatively impact off axis viewing. It can also allow the screen to be larger and the iris and lamp to be restricted more for more flexibility to increase light output as the lamp ages or the situation arises. I use a 1.0 gain Carada with very dark walls, floor and ceiling so everyone of my 8 seats has a great image. If the theater is for fewer people this becomes less important. I would get a screen sample and expriment to see what you like.
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How far back did you mount your vpl-hw10 for the 126" screen? What mount are you using?

I would love to go bigger on the screen but since I planned on having a screen wall 2' infront of the front wall my useable space shrank to 13.5'. Also I planned to put 2' wide soffit around the seating area so if I was to put the projector at the high part of the ceiling then maximum throw distance would be 11.5' but with project depth it would be more like 10.5'. I may have to not do the soffit or mount the project on the soffit even though this will lower the project 6-10" more.

How noisy is this thing? Do you know the db rating for vpl-hw10? I looked on the sony site but they didn't have this listed.

Thanks.

My throw distance is 12' 10" that gave me the max screen size of 126" and 15FL.

As for the db im not to sure, but my ceiling drop is pretty low and I can guarantee you I cant hear a thing even on high brightness.

I brought my mount at my local shop, nothing special, reg universal mount did the trick.
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My throw distance is 12' 10" that gave me the max screen size of 126" and 15FL.

As for the db im not to sure, but my ceiling drop is pretty low and I can guarantee you I cant hear a thing even on high brightness.

I brought my mount at my local shop, nothing special, reg universal mount did the trick.

I've decided that's the screen size and approximate throw distance (~13') I'm going to have. How do you like your HW-10 in that setup? Have you seen brightness decrease with lamp hours? Are you using Carada BW? Do you have some shots of screen image?

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Image on the second one is amzaing. Colors look life like! I don't see the black level thing you are talking about on the second image. Image does really look good to me.

If you look at the picture, you can see a lighter band across the top which is the letterboxing from the film, and then you have the black velvet on the wall above it which makes it stand out.

When projecting onto a wall without the screen, you don't notice the letterboxing, it just blends in with the wall itself rather than having a brighter band across the top of the picture.

The picture is much better projecting onto the screen, but the downside is that letterboxing is more noticeable now the image is framed in black.


That said, now that I've got more velvet up (particularly the velvet on the ceiling above the screen) I'm not finding it to be much of a problem any more. I think the main issue was reflections from the walls/ceiling being so close to the screen. (less than an inch either side)

And yes, I am very happy with the colour reproduction on the Brilliant White screen after calibration. It's not perfect, but does look very natural as you say.

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For the screen size I'm wanting I think I would also have to run the vpl-hw10 at maximum zoom. Is there any drawback to running the project at maximum zoom? Do you loose picture quality vs. something at lower zoom? I'm planning to put a 2' wide sofit around the HT room mainly for looks and planned on putting the project in the higher part of the ceiling but now I may need to mount it at the back soffit of the room to get more distance. Do you see any issues with this? Soffit will be about 6 - 10" high (not sure yet) and my ceiling height is 8'..

I've only ever run the projector close to maximum zoom so I can't say how much better it might be if I didn't, but certainly I haven't noticed any problems from doing so.

I don't think there would be any problems doing what you say.
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Also does the mount you use make a difference on how far you mount this from the back wall? I may need every inch of the space so I may have to mount it as close as I can to the back wall. I was thinking of using Chief RPAU Projector Mount. What mount do you recommend for VPL-HW10?

I bought the cheapest bracket I could find initially. It holds up the projector ok, but it doesn't do a good job holding it in position. It gradually creeps out of alignment when you let go.

As a result, I've bought a large turntable shelf for the projector to go on instead. It's designed to isolate the shelf from vibrations (should help eliminate the slight "bounce" when someone opens/closes the door) and there are screws in each corner that you can adjust to ensure it's perfectly level.

I'm hoping that this will make setting up the projector square on the screen a lot easier.
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Son, I'm passed my 60th birthday so let me give you a tip about women. First, don't ever tell her you have to pay someone to paint a wall. That's like paying someone to come in to turn on the lights. If you can put together a screen and home theater set-up you can damn well paint a wall.

Second, it is give and take with a woman. Even a newly married person knows that. The secret is to try to take more than you give but let her think all along it is her idea or at least to her benefit. In this case you can win the upper hand simply by saying don't worry about the "pay out". "I'll bust my hump and do it FOR YOU". See what you are doing? When she says, "What, for ME?". Say of course, I'm building this thing for US and I want you and I to have the most enjoyable time together watching all our favorite shows and movies. You can't do this unless we make the wall a little darker (never tell her just how dark it will be because once it is done she may not like it but she'll accept it).

Now she is thinking. If you two are in to it, you can even tell her how much more enhanced and exciting watching porn together on a big screen will be. Well, I hope you get the drift. You can see how dark my walls are (panel) and dark walls are, while not mandatory, they are desirable. You can do it kid! Let me know how you make out.


Great advice !! .

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I just wanted to pop in here and say that I am a huge fan of Carada. I purchased a 114" bw screen from them several months ago and have been enjoying it ever since.

It's in a 12.5x13.5 room with a z2000 and I sit about 11.5 feet from it. I was debating going smaller, but I am SO glad I got this size. When I watched my first movie on it, I was a little concerned because I had a little eye strain. But that was from not having any ambient light on at all. Now that is fixed and it's perfect. If anything, I'll be moving the couch a little closer to the screen!

Here's a pic of the setup.


Thanks Carada!

Very clean setup.

With the carada screen, can light shine through from the back? I have a window at the potential place that I am thinking of placing.



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I've had that screen for quite a while now, and I suspect you'll be very pleased with your choice.

I wished Carada would come out with a masking system that one could apply top and bottom manually. I'm not sure it would cannibalize their Masquerade sales so much; people who can afford that will buy it. I've tried coming up with a couple of things, but they just haven't panned out like I thought they would. I have looked at the other projects that folks on the AVS DIY screen forum have come up with.

The best I can figure is it has to be lightweight and clamp to the sides of the screen without damaging the black hole coating. And they need to be 12" wide panels so they can be moved up and down to accommodate different aspect ratios.

I think there's a market for this, but it needs to be designed and built professionally.

After having this up for two weeks, I have to say that I am very pleased with the screen. This thing completely disappears and has given the picture more "HD" quality and 3 dimensionality. I actually suggested to the owner that he make a manual mask. I also suggested that the markets for the two are quite different. Great minds think alike!
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I've scanned the thread here and seen that many people prefer the Carada brilliant white (BW) in their home theaters. I've recently purchased and hung a Carada 112" 2.35:1 Criterion Classic Cinema White (CCW) Screen in my new home theater. I'm planning on purchasing a Panasonic PT-AE3000U which will be hung approx. 13 ft away from the screen. I have a completely light-controlled room with no windows and dark paint on all walls inc. ceiling. I based my decision of going CCW from the website recommendation, but it seems that others here with light-controlled rooms decided on BW for the extra gain. Have I made a mistake in purchasing a CCW instead of a BW screen? Is that extra gain important for a light-controlled room?

BTW, this Carada screen is AWESOME. Great build and looks. People are impressed when they see it and are amazed by the price point. Can't wait to finally hang that projector.

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I've scanned the thread here and seen that many people prefer the Carada brilliant white (BW) in their home theaters. I've recently purchased and hung a Carada 112" 2.35:1 Criterion Classic Cinema White (CCW) Screen in my new home theater. I'm planning on purchasing a Panasonic PT-AE3000U which will be hung approx. 13 ft away from the screen. I have a completely light-controlled room with no windows and dark paint on all walls inc. ceiling. I based my decision of going CCW from the website recommendation, but it seems that others here with light-controlled rooms decided on BW for the extra gain. Have I made a mistake in purchasing a CCW instead of a BW screen? Is that extra gain important for a light-controlled room?

BTW, this Carada screen is AWESOME. Great build and looks. People are impressed when they see it and are amazed by the price point. Can't wait to finally hang that projector.

Well it's an apples and oranges comparison but I have a CCW paired with an InFocus 7205 FP. Beautiful image! Also in a light controlled room (basement).

And yes, the quality of the build is great and it looks great too!

I think you'll be fine in your situation.
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I prefer a gain of 1.0 or less, as I'm extremely sensitive to artifacts. So I chose CCW over BW (I tested both). I also prefer CCW for the (slightly) improved black level (in my bat cave). Key is to have a projector w/ sufficient light output to drive a lower gain screen. As well as having a light controlled room.
YES - Carada screens (all of them) are very impressive both visually and structurally.
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[quote=smokhee;16056450 I actually suggested to the owner that he make a manual mask. I also suggested that the markets for the two are quite different. Great minds think alike![/QUOTE]

Indeed!

With two of us in agreement I suspect it'll happen within the next week.

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