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post #2101 of 2164 Old 01-22-2016, 09:30 AM
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any opinions on this model? VMAX100H95C

ELITE SCREENS VMAX100H95C VMAX DUAL SERIES 100 DIAG. AND 95 DIAG. - HDTV [16:9] AND CINEMASCOPE [2.35:1] - MAXWHITE - 1.1 GAIN

http://www.projectorscreen.com/elite...-1-1-gain.html

how will this compare to the other models?


is maxhite 1.1 gain good? planning to buy Epson Home Cinema 5030UB
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Hey guys, looking for some input.

JVC RS400 going into a living room and will be the main source of our viewing day and night. Ambient light during the day, 40w lamp in the corner on at night. Light color walls and carpet. Was looking at a 100" SableFrame Cinegray 3D. Throw is about 11 feet from lens to screen.

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Hey guys, looking for some input.

JVC RS400 going into a living room and will be the main source of our viewing day and night. Ambient light during the day, 40w lamp in the corner on at night. Light color walls and carpet. Was looking at a 100" SableFrame Cinegray 3D. Throw is about 11 feet from lens to screen.

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Have you used a PJ before? Are you sure you want the JVC as the main viewing source day and night? After calibration for proper black levels, that's just not going to be bright enough with ambient daylight. With a 40w bulb, depending on where the lamp is, still may not be bright enough. Just food for thought.
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The new models doubled their light output for HDR. The 400 is like 1600 lumens with a calibration.

Using a calculator on here by a member, the 400 with an 11 foot throw and the iris fully open is a light cannon. Should mean I can close the iris a lot for my need. I should be able to have a day and night mode also that will more than suit me. Been talking to Mike G here in AVS Sales, and he recommended the CineGray 3D. Just wanted to talk to users.

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The new models doubled their light output for HDR. The 400 is like 1600 lumens with a calibration.

Using a calculator on here by a member, the 400 with an 11 foot throw and the iris fully open is a light cannon. Should mean I can close the iris a lot for my need. I should be able to have a day and night mode also that will more than suit me. Been talking to Mike G here in AVS Sales, and he recommended the CineGray 3D. Just wanted to talk to users.
It's still only 1700 lumens and I'm not sure where you're seeing after calibration for that number. All the literature I can find is saying that's what it is. To get the best black levels, figure losing a good chunk of that.

I wouldn't call 1700 lumens (best case scenario) a light cannon by any means. I've had an Epson and now a JVC. The Epson was rated around 1800 lumens before calibration and the JVC is rated at 1200 lumens. Both have been used with electric drop down screens, 92" and 135" from throws ranging from 9' to 14'. After calibration, neither was much good with even moderate ambient light and were only OK with relatively low natural ambient light. Definitely compared to the plasma that sit behind the screens.

IMO a projector rated at 1700 lumens, even with selectable user profiles, is not suitable for a main display if the lighting isn't tightly controlled. I also work with projectors on a daily basis in bright rooms in more of a business setting and can say that I completely agree with the chart linked below.

http://www.projectorpeople.com/resou...umen-guide.asp

YMMV, although I'm skeptical you'll be happy with daytime viewing coming from the TV's linked in your profile.

For reference. The first picture is with my HT settings, the second is about as bright as I can get it, lens wide open, high power mode, while still keeping it relatively good looking. This is with a low amount of ambient light. It looks like more than it really is. The sun is mostly set, the venetian blinds are closed and almost all the lights are off.





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Anyone have any experience with this screen?

Elite Screens Spectrum Tab-Tension, 125-inch 16:9, 4K Tensioned Electric Motorized Projection Projector Screen, Electric125HT

It's $599 on Amazon.com and direct from Elitescreens.com.

Seems to get better reviews than the CineTension 2 at about half the price. Would this screen work well with an Epson 5025UB? It will be used in a dark room with light tan walls and a white ceiling.

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Hi all, I'm a rook and just bought a house with a theater room. Putting in a projector and screen. I need a sound transparent screen and am looking at the elite AcousticPro 1080P3. 135" curved or 138" flat. Are these good options? Should I consider something else for a better price point? And do you recommend the curved feature? Cheers all!
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Hi all, I'm a rook and just bought a house with a theater room. Putting in a projector and screen. I need a sound transparent screen and am looking at the elite AcousticPro 1080P3. 135" curved or 138" flat. Are these good options? Should I consider something else for a better price point? And do you recommend the curved feature? Cheers all!
So I'm guessing you're looking at the Lunette and what other model?
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Yes and sable235
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Hi
I hope you can help me,

I am looking for motorized screen 110' and I found two screen VMAX2 and Spectrum
Could you please till me what are the differences between them?
and which one is bitter and why?

Elite Screens VMAX2, 110-inch Diagonal 16:9, Electric Motorized Drop Down HD Projection Projector Screen, VMAX110UWH2

Elite Screens Spectrum, 110-inch 16:9, 4K Home Theater Electric Motorized Drop Down Projection Projector Screen, ELECTRIC110H



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Yes and sable235
IMO, the curved isn't getting you very much.

I think the only reason you should go with an AT screen is if you're trying to go big and you have no choice but to put the screen in front of your speakers. You also need sufficient space between your screen and the speakers. I forget the exact distance, but I think it was like 4-8in between your speakers and the screen for acoustically transparent. If you have the space to get the size screen you want and not put the speakers behind the screen I'd go that route if it were me.
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I hope you can help me,

I am looking for motorized screen 110' and I found two screen VMAX2 and Spectrum
Could you please till me what are the differences between them?
and which one is bitter and why?

Elite Screens VMAX2, 110-inch Diagonal 16:9, Electric Motorized Drop Down HD Projection Projector Screen, VMAX110UWH2

Elite Screens Spectrum, 110-inch 16:9, 4K Home Theater Electric Motorized Drop Down Projection Projector Screen, ELECTRIC110H



Thanks and Best Regards

I am sorry the other screen is Spectrum2, not Spectrum

Elite Screens Spectrum2, 110-inch 16:9, 12-inch Drop, Electric Motorized Drop Down Projection Projector Screen, SPM110H-E12
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I went with a 135 non-curved. The speaker is already installed behind the screen from the previous install. Thanks!
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What was wrong with the replacement Spectrum Tab Tensioned screen that Elite sent you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm thinking of trying one so it would be good to know what issues I might be facing if I decide to go this route.
Sorry for the late reply. Both the original and replacement have curved edges even though its a tensioned edge. They cave inwards towards the view and it really bothers me because if you use the tensioning mechanism then that inturn shortens the length of the tension string which shortens the distance between the top of the screen and the bottom of the screen that creates a kink in the bottom of the screen. Elite has already sent me a replacement screen which they claim they quality checked prior to shipping, the replacement screen was even worse.

I'm currently still waiting for a 3rd screen replacement which they promised me they would upgrade to the Saker screen. They told me to wait 2 months until they got new stock in. I waited and called and now they said no we are going to replace your current model. I'm waiting for them to quality check the screens and send me a picture prior to shipping. Very frustrating, because they do stand behind their screens but are taking forever and flipflop their words.
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Anyone have any experience with this screen?

Elite Screens Spectrum Tab-Tension, 125-inch 16:9, 4K Tensioned Electric Motorized Projection Projector Screen, Electric125HT

It's $599 on Amazon.com and direct from Elitescreens.com.

Seems to get better reviews than the CineTension 2 at about half the price. Would this screen work well with an Epson 5025UB? It will be used in a dark room with light tan walls and a white ceiling.

Thanks,
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I purchased that screen and having issues with it. I guess for the price you cant beat it but for the quality its not worth it. Check my post and you can see what issue I'm having. The company will stand behind its product and warranty just not worth the time or money your going to waste.
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Yet another rookie question (HT I know, but first time working with projection). I'm looking at the Spectrum 2 series for my build out. The main reasons driving this model are the mounting space I have to work with. Thanks to a pretty low knee wall to the barn shaped ceiling, whatever screen I go with is going to be a tight fit, and the spectrum's case is a bit narrower.

That said, I was curious about the top drop. Is there any way to shorten that with a physical stop, so the screen surface top is a bit higher? i.e. on the 100 or 110" model, the top black is 12". Ideally I'd like that closer to 6" or possibly less since the screen is already going to be bordering on the low side (need to conserve as much height as I can).

I know I could just lower it and stop at the desired spot, but as this will be covering a window, thus raised and lowered a lot, I'd rather have a programmed or physical stop so that I could utilize a trigger to drop the screen when the system powers up and still have it stop at the right spot.

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Yes, I have the Spectrum 2 and there is a way to set it up so that it stops at less than default drop. There is an opening in the back that you insert an allen wrench and turn it either clockwise or counterclock wise. Each full turn is 1" less or more depending on which way you turn it.
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Yet another rookie question (HT I know, but first time working with projection). I'm looking at the Spectrum 2 series for my build out. The main reasons driving this model are the mounting space I have to work with. Thanks to a pretty low knee wall to the barn shaped ceiling, whatever screen I go with is going to be a tight fit, and the spectrum's case is a bit narrower.

That said, I was curious about the top drop. Is there any way to shorten that with a physical stop, so the screen surface top is a bit higher? i.e. on the 100 or 110" model, the top black is 12". Ideally I'd like that closer to 6" or possibly less since the screen is already going to be bordering on the low side (need to conserve as much height as I can).

I know I could just lower it and stop at the desired spot, but as this will be covering a window, thus raised and lowered a lot, I'd rather have a programmed or physical stop so that I could utilize a trigger to drop the screen when the system powers up and still have it stop at the right spot.
My screen is the Cinetension2, but it has an adjustable drop. I think that all of their electric screens do.
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Hey yall, ran across this Craigslist. Is it a decent screen? I know my stereos and TVs, but I know nothing about screens. Thanks!
CL listing:http://nashville.craigslist.org/for/5440462096.html

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I nervously ordered a Cinetension 2 2.35 from Amazon. I swallowed hard and hoped for the best when I ordered it. Well, a week later it got delivered. See for yourself. It's going back next week and we're going to try again as they're sending a new one. Package arrived with tape on it and some damage. Delivery staff told me they inspected it at warehouse and it was fine. If the next comes with any damage or issues whatsoever I'm not accepting it and I encourage all of you to do the same. Sadly there's a good chance the next one may not have aggregious damage but I'll find wrinkles or banding or some other hot mess. I'm going to try one more. If no Bueno then I'll pay the extra 1000 from Seymour. Click image for larger version

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The styrofoam is still jammed in the slot opening. This thing took one heck of a hit.

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I nervously ordered a Cinetension 2 2.35 from Amazon. I swallowed hard and hoped for the best when I ordered it. Well, a week later it got delivered. See for yourself. It's going back next week and we're going to try again as they're sending a new one. Package arrived with tape on it and some damage. Delivery staff told me they inspected it at warehouse and it was fine. If the next comes with any damage or issues whatsoever I'm not accepting it and I encourage all of you to do the same. Sadly there's a good chance the next one may not have aggregious damage but I'll find wrinkles or banding or some other hot mess. I'm going to try one more. If no Bueno then I'll pay the extra 1000 from Seymour. Attachment 1278553Attachment 1278561Attachment 1278569Attachment 1278577

The styrofoam is still jammed in the slot opening. This thing took one heck of a hit.

So far Amazon has been great in replacement.


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We had a similar issue. Good for you to replace it immediately. We opened the damaged box and it looked OK inside. When we got it mounted, the elecronics were not working. So, we had to replace them.
Looking back, the screen was well packed. However, the build quality is somewhat "lightweight". Instead of steel, like our DaLite, the case is aluminum. I'm sure this saves on costs and it is easier to mount, but the tradeoff is that they are more fragile. Seeing your box makes me wonder if another shipping protocol would work better. The screens are an awkward size. It seems inevitable that they will sustain some damage going from plane to truck...One drop or impact and it's sol.
On the plus side Elite CS took over and made it good. Once the screen is up and working, you forget about the hassle. MY $.02.
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Hey all, I'm going to be starting on my basement HT in the next couple months. The room is 13x17x8, completely sealed from the rest of the house and completely light controlled. I've talked to one of my buddies who writes for a couple HT magazines and he recommended I go with the JVC DLA-RS4910.

I know the JVC's have fairly low lumen output but with complete light control I should be ok with the right screen. He recommended a Carada Precision series in Brilliant White which has a 1.4 gain. He said one around a 1.3 would be great as well. I was looking at the Elite ezFrame 2 in Cinewhite which only has a 1.1 gain.

Projector will be on the back wall, roughly 15' feet from the screen, shooting a 110" 16:9 screen. According to Projector Central, the throw distance and screen size should be just about perfect.

My question is, what do you all think about that PJ with the Elite Screen? Will the 1.1 gain be enough? I had a Panasonic on a DIY Wilsonart Gray screen before in that room and it was fine but I've never bought a screen before and want to get it right the first time.

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Actual calibrated lumen output of JVC is very close to spec where Panasonic and Epson (2400 as advertised) are 2-3 times less than advertised. So your actual light output may be better than expected. Also actual gain on the Elite is closer to just under 1.0 as I recall. I just saw a post recently with comparison of actual gains vs advertised as well for white screens. It wasn't on this forum. I found it in a google search.


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Who has a spectrum 2 or vmax should I buy
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Actual calibrated lumen output of JVC is very close to spec where Panasonic and Epson (2400 as advertised) are 2-3 times less than advertised. So your actual light output may be better than expected. Also actual gain on the Elite is closer to just under 1.0 as I recall. I just saw a post recently with comparison of actual gains vs advertised as well for white screens. It wasn't on this forum. I found it in a google search.


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Completely agree. I had a 1.2 gain cinema white Elite 120" diag. 16:9 screen and it was closer to 1.0 than 1.2. My 4910u also measured right around 1200 lumens (while rated at 1300). Granted the lamp has less than 40 hours and will slightly dim with more use. A colleague of mine has a panny AE7000 that is rated at 2000 lumens and we measured approx 975. It can be deceiving looking at the calculators projector central or just going off the manufacturers ratings no doubt.
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Time for a totally off the wall question. The shape of my room necessitates a Spectrum 2 100" screen. (really want 110", but would have to cut into sloped ceiling, not good) I'd love to control the screen with the projector, but have to admit the thought of paying nearly as much for a remote kit as the screen itself costs seems really crazy.

Then I got to looking at the picture of the cord and switch. If I'm seeing that right, it's a simple 3 way toggle switch. 1 powers up motor (or up power source into motor), one powers down, and one sends no juice. The motor itself would seem to have limiters to auto shutoff once the limiter is reached. Otherwise, you'd have to move the switch to the off position after lowering, which I'm assuming is not the case, right?

How hard would it be to replace that toggle switch with a run to either a wall switch on the other side of the room, or possibly even hack together a 12 volt trigger that would connect the down circuit on power and the up circuit on no power? It's not a critical thing, just a nice to have, but I'm thinking that would be about a quarter of the cost of the remote kit (if not less), and relatively easy to do. Am I missing something obvious there?

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Ok, now for a slightly less off the wall question. Thanks to some unexpected home repairs, we're probably going to delay the theater buildout till this summer. I was thinking I might start buying some of the smaller stuff just to knock it out of the way. As it happens, I'm sitting on about enough in Amazon gift cards to pay for the screen, but would it be bad to get it now (or in a few weeks based on Amazon being currently out of stock) and have it sitting rolled up in a box for a couple months? I know people talk about leaving it down for a few days to straighten out and clear the odor, but would having it rolled up for potentially a few months risk making that worse?

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Finally having Elite Screens send me a replacement for my Electric 125HT (spectrum tab-tension 125). The new Saker SKT120XHW-E20 should arrive sometime within the next 6-10 days. I'm pretty anxious to see the condition the screen will come in as its been shipped directly from Elite Screen, hope it arrives 100% because I'm tired of dealing with not having a screen and waiting on them.
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