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post #2251 of 2279 Unread 12-31-2016, 01:47 AM
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Well I bought a big chunk of cinegray to see what it looks like on my wall. I have a light controlled room and thought I knew I wanted white (dont ask why i ordered gray). Anyway, I am glad I did. I can leave all my lights on and still see the screen perfectly. I can now play games with the lights on and watch football with lights on and not have any washout. I have a sony VPL HW40es by the way.

My question is, will I gain much by going to cinegray 3d when I watch movies with the lights off?
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I just purchaded a Benq 3050 for my living room home theater. I'm looking for a 16:9 135 inch motorized screen and have been looking at Elite screens. What is the difference between their different product lines? My room is 24 x 19. There are windows but most of the light is controlled with the blinds. The projector is mostly used at night anyway. Any suggestions from Elite?
Generally it's a difference in screen material, build quality, drops and features. The spectrum line being the most basic and entry level often doesn't include things like a RF/IR or trigger remote.

I was looking at their 125" spectrum tab tensioned that's a couple hundred cheaper than the 120" saker tab tensioned. The spectrum (among other differences) has no remote option which must be purchased separately for around $250.
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Generally it's a difference in screen material, build quality, drops and features. The spectrum line being the most basic and entry level often doesn't include things like a RF/IR or trigger remote.

I was looking at their 125" spectrum tab tensioned that's a couple hundred cheaper than the 120" saker tab tensioned. The spectrum (among other differences) has no remote option which must be purchased separately for around $250.
Thanks for the response. They didn't offer the Spectrum line in a 135 inch screen. I think I'm going to go with the Starling Tab Tension 2 with 6 inch drop.
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Thanks for the response. They didn't offer the Spectrum line in a 135 inch screen. I think I'm going to go with the Starling Tab Tension 2 with 6 inch drop.
Have you looked at the Saker line? It also comes in a 135", tensioned with a 6" drop and retains the wireless trigger option that's left out on the Starlings for some reason. Little bit cheaper too if you can handle the slower synchronous motor used in the Sakers.

Both are available on Amazon from Elite with free shipping.

I ordered mine that way because Amazons delivery date options were nearing the end of January - Elite seems to ship faster so I should have mine sometime this week.
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Regarding the Saker tab-tension vs the Spectrum tab-tension, I noticed the Saker uses Maxwhite FG where the Spectrum uses Maxwhite. Does the Fiberglass backing just further improve the flatness like the tab-tensioning does? I am trying to decide between the two and don't really need the remotes that come with the saker, and saving $200+ would be really nice.
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Have you looked at the Saker line? It also comes in a 135", tensioned with a 6" drop and retains the wireless trigger option that's left out on the Starlings for some reason. Little bit cheaper too if you can handle the slower synchronous motor used in the Sakers.

Both are available on Amazon from Elite with free shipping.

I ordered mine that way because Amazons delivery date options were nearing the end of January - Elite seems to ship faster so I should have mine sometime this week.
Thanks. I already had ordered the Starling when I read this. The specs between the two seem pretty close. Amazon had it in stock. I can't wait!
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Hey all, Im in the market for a new screen and I cant seem to find any Elite Scope screens available. Where can I find a manual scope screen in the 125"-131" H size? Everywhere I look they seem to be discontinued or no longer available.
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Hey all, Im in the market for a new screen and I cant seem to find any Elite Scope screens available. Where can I find a manual scope screen in the 125"-131" H size? Everywhere I look they seem to be discontinued or no longer available.
I just put my two year old screen up for sale...

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Thanks. I already had ordered the Starling when I read this. The specs between the two seem pretty close. Amazon had it in stock. I can't wait!
I'm sure you'll enjoy it just the same. I picked mine up Weds from Pilot Freight in St Louis - figured the 2hr drive was worth not waiting several days for delivery. Loving it already and haven't yet mounted the PJ.

Do yourself a favor and chuck the screws they include for mounting. They snapped right at the threads on me while I was screwing them into the ceiling - was nearly a disaster.

They're the crappiest screws I've ever seen. You'd think when you're spending nearly a grand that they could include some decent hardware but I guess not. I picked up some grade 8s and got mine mounted finally - the roof will come down before those break.
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hi

i have received my AEON EDGE FREE in 110 inch.

very good

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hi

i have received my AEON EDGE FREE in 110 inch.

very good


Do you have other pictures of your room with measurements?

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i have received my AEON EDGE FREE in 110 inch.

very good

I have been considering this screen whenever I (finally) get my projector. Be sure to post pics of the projected image. Looks great!
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i have received my AEON EDGE FREE in 110 inch.

very good

I'm seriously thinking I've decided on an Aeon. That looks great!

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Hi guys, I'm about to buy a ES CineCrey Screen 3D (1.2 Gain) @120 inches and I wonder if its worth to pay the ~80-90€ premium for the Edge-Free design.
My backwall is black/grey, so I probably don't need the contrast frame. Is the assembly as easy as it is for the framed version?



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Just need a quick opinion on the screen Ive decided to purchase. Ive been looking for a 2.35:1 screen, but just cant seem to find one anywhere. So Ive decided to go with a 135" Elite 16:9 screen. I currently have a 106" 16:9 Focupix electric screen. I know, its a cheapo, but since Ive never seen any other screen, I dont know how bad or good it is. Its all Ive ever known. I got a new projector and want a bigger screen. Watching a 99" scope movie from 10'9" is just not big enough for me. The biggest I can go is a 128" screen. This new screen is just a temporary fix until I get my dedicated theatre room finished. Since I cant find a scope screen, Ill just get a 16:9. The model Ive settled on is the M135UWH2. Just curious if that will fill my needs for now. From what Ive read, it should be equal to, if not better than my current screen. I just want bigger for the time being. When I finish my death theatre, Ill then put a bit more money into a better screen. Thanks all.
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I've got a elite cine white 120in 16x9 screen I bought in 2008 and never washed it just feather dusted it,I was afraid if I did it would leave streaks on the screen,if I do wash it what kind of solution should I use,there's never been any smoke or anything like that in the room.
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I've got a elite cine white 120in 16x9 screen I bought in 2008 and never washed it just feather dusted it,I was afraid if I did it would leave streaks on the screen,if I do wash it what kind of solution should I use,there's never been any smoke or anything like that in the room.
Why would you want to wash it? Spots can be gently removed with a little bit of mild detergent and water. Beyond that there should be no need in a smoke free home. A vertical surface doesn't collect much dust which you're already taking care of with a feather duster.

I don't think they're meant to get wet aside from damp spot cleaning.
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I finally put up my Starling Tab Tension 2 screen. It looks great but I have to admit, I'm a little scared about the hooks that I used. They say they are rated for 45 pounds each. Swag hooks with toggles. I put a piece of wood to bridge the gap between studs for extra strength. Its sturdy where it meets the ceiling but the hooks themselves look suspect to me. I'm worried that the portion of the hook that holds the carabiner will snap. Does anyone have any experience with these...good or bad?
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I finally put up my Starling Tab Tension 2 screen. It looks great but I have to admit, I'm a little scared about the hooks that I used. They say they are rated for 45 pounds each. Swag hooks with toggles. I put a piece of wood to bridge the gap between studs for extra strength. Its sturdy where it meets the ceiling but the hooks themselves look suspect to me. I'm worried that the portion of the hook that holds the carabiner will snap. Does anyone have any experience with these...good or bad?
That should be fine as you have 4 toggles but those hooks are not great IMO. I would get some other screw in hooks.

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Who knows anything about Elite Prime Vision (their uplevel, custom install division)? I'm thinking I'm about to purchase an EPV Peregrine ISF Efinity... I heard that it's from the same sourcing as Screen Innovations. If that's the case, even though more expensive, still a great value!

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Hi Fuzz. Saw your screen and I'm considering the same model with a Sony 40es or 45es PJ. Have you had any issues with moire, lack of gain, screen flatness, or acoustic transparency? Thanks!
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I finally put up my Starling Tab Tension 2 screen. It looks great but I have to admit, I'm a little scared about the hooks that I used. They say they are rated for 45 pounds each. Swag hooks with toggles. I put a piece of wood to bridge the gap between studs for extra strength. Its sturdy where it meets the ceiling but the hooks themselves look suspect to me. I'm worried that the portion of the hook that holds the carabiner will snap. Does anyone have any experience with these...good or bad?
We did something similar to hang our screen. Our attachment location was between studs. So, we screwed a screw eye directly into each stud. Then we ran a short length of strong chain between the screw eyes. On one side of the screen, one end of the chain was anchored with a turnbuckle. We then hung the screen from the stretched chain using carabiners to at the attachment points. This design is simple, strong, looks cool and has the advantage of precise adjustment. You can eyeball the general screen location, then attach it to the chain lengths. By turning the turnbuckle on one end, you can get it precisely dialed in right to left. We set a spirit level on the screen case to insure everything ended up "true".
BTW, hardware is cheap. I would go with stronger screw hooks in your set up. Why take a chance?
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I finally put up my Starling Tab Tension 2 screen. It looks great but I have to admit, I'm a little scared about the hooks that I used. They say they are rated for 45 pounds each. Swag hooks with toggles. I put a piece of wood to bridge the gap between studs for extra strength. Its sturdy where it meets the ceiling but the hooks themselves look suspect to me. I'm worried that the portion of the hook that holds the carabiner will snap. Does anyone have any experience with these...good or bad?

I'd definitely get some better ceiling hooks - preferably something that goes through the wood and into the ceiling itself. The natural wood boards may slowly bow from the weight.

I'd also move the hooks a little closer together to remove the angle on the left and right sides so the weight is pulling straight down. The brackets on the screen should be able to slide inwards giving you some side to side adjustment as a bonus.

Do you have attic access by chance?

Ps. Hope you don't use that fireplace. Heat will kill TVs.
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I'd definitely get some better ceiling hooks - preferably something that goes through the wood and into the ceiling itself. The natural wood boards may slowly bow from the weight.

I'd also move the hooks a little closer together to remove the angle on the left and right sides so the weight is pulling straight down. The brackets on the screen should be able to slide inwards giving you some side to side adjustment as a bonus.

Do you have attic access by chance?

Ps. Hope you don't use that fireplace. Heat will kill TVs.
Thanks. To be honest, I made a mistake when prepping for the installation. I thought the location for the brackets were fixed so I went with this setup. I already had the boards in place when I realized that I could slide the brackets anywhere. Haha! I'm already looking for some eyebolts to screw into the ceiling joists closer inward.

We haven't used the fireplace yet. If anything, I'll convert it to an insert that blows the heat towards to center of the room.

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Thanks. To be honest, I made a mistake when prepping for the installation. I thought the location for the brackets were fixed so I went with this setup. I already had the boards in place when I realized that I could slide the brackets anywhere. Haha! I'm already looking for some eyebolts to screw into the ceiling joists closer inward.

We haven't used the fireplace yet. If anything, I'll convert it to an insert that blows the heat towards to center of the room.
Heck I didn't even think about just sliding them over to align with the joists and ditching the boards.

My Saker Tab Tensioned didn't want to cooperate either during install which is flush mounted. Talk about a pain in the butt. Luckily I have attic access and was able to add 2x4s for mounting it since the joists run parallel.
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Hi. For an electric screen usecase, the Cinegray 5D comes with Starling Tab Tension 2, and only a black case. I called Elite today and they confirmed the case is only available in black. Does anyone know if it's possible to paint it white? I am of the opinion white will look 'more seamless' when mounted to a white ceiling.

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I've had my VMAX2 non-tensioned electric screen for about 5 months now and still happy with it. Fingers crossed it lasts a lot longer!

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Just wanted to note a had a very good customer service experience with Elite. My 125" Spectrum Tab-tension was a little more "wavy" than I expected. Submitted request for RMA with pictures, 2 hours later RMA was issued and a week later I have a replaced, much better looking screen. They even hung 2 or 3 at their office and picked the best before shipping it.

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Just wanted to note a had a very good customer service experience with Elite. My 125" Spectrum Tab-tension was a little more "wavy" than I expected. Submitted request for RMA with pictures, 2 hours later RMA was issued and a week later I have a replaced, much better looking screen. They even hung 2 or 3 at their office and picked the best before shipping it.

Overall, very pleased.
+1 on the Elite CS response. We had a wave problem with our tab-tension screen. They bent over backwards to resolve it. Bottom line is that they stand behind their product and want you to be happy with it.
FWIW, it's easy to get anal about waves. You would figure that tab-tension would mean wave free. From my experience, there are often a few waves. The question is, can you see them with a projected image? In our case, 95% of the time, the waves are invisible.
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