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Thanks for the reply. I think I'm going to take the 120" tab-tensioned.

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Awesome Job. Looks like a supernova blade.
Thanks Ben! Gona give a black screen a try soon. Getting some samples from Robert soon. Will keep you guys posted.
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I ordered my screen back on April 9th and are still waiting. How long did you guys have to wait? I sent them an e-mail 4 days ago to check the status and still haven't received a reply. I hope everything goes smoothly with my screen.
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i intent to purchase a Reference Studio 4K Fixed-Frame 16:9 150" Screen for my up coming SONY 4K VPL-VW1100ES projector.
I believe EluneVision is the only screen that put "4K" trade mark on their screen type (or I am wrong about this).
I hope that has real technological explanation rather than marketing gimmick.

My HT Room is totally light control "bat-Cave" room.

Will that screen "Over Brightness" considering the bright Lumens of Sony VW1100ES?
But I've been told if I go for that big 150" screen I must have 'high Gain" screen to bring up the brightness.
Currently I have 134" Carada Brilliant White screen with 1.4 gain. The EluneVision 4K screen has 2.4 gain, I think.

In fact my personal preference is brightness of picture when watching movies/videos on big screen in HT room.

Have anyone any experience with that 150" screen?
Any comments or recommendations are much appreciated.
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i intent to purchase a Reference Studio 4K Fixed-Frame 16:9 150" Screen for my up coming SONY 4K VPL-VW1100ES projector.
I believe EluneVision is the only screen that put "4K" trade mark on their screen type (or I am wrong about this).
I hope that has real technological explanation rather than marketing gimmick.

My HT Room is totally light control "bat-Cave" room.

Will that screen "Over Brightness" considering the bright Lumens of Sony VW1100ES?
But I've been told if I go for that big 150" screen I must have 'high Gain" screen to bring up the brightness.
Currently I have 134" Carada Brilliant White screen with 1.4 gain. The EluneVision 4K screen has 2.4 gain, I think.

In fact my personal preference is brightness of picture when watching movies/videos on big screen in HT room.

Have anyone any experience with that 150" screen?
Any comments or recommendations are much appreciated.

Most all screens on the market will resolve 4K.

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Just like you Socal Rich I too ordered a screen, in May, which is nearly 4 weeks ago and haven't had much in the way of email support since. They never specified how long for delivery and the last few emails I have had no response. To be honest I did expect up to 5 weeks, especially since I'm from the UK, but I would have appreciated an estimated delivery time at least. I am beginning to feel like it was a mistake but I can only hope there is an honest reason for the lack of communication. But 2 months waiting, in your case, is just ridiculous!!
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I ordered mine from EastPorters and it arrived in a couple of weeks. I had very good communications with them, fast response (within a day). I sent my messages to Nathalie at: sales@eastporters.com.

Hopefully your luck will improve. I like my new 4K reference screen, a nice improvement from the Titan screen I had (which is now in the bedroom). Especially in the darker blacks and more details.
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To be fair, I did say I was in no immediate rush and I didn't expect to have my room finished and all the kit ready to go as quick. Also i am having a custom frame done, but email response was good before I paid for the screen and immediately after but poor since. If there is a genuine delay then no problem. At least communicate this. When I see someone else has been waiting even longer with an order placed the month before then there must be some issue.

I ordered with EluneVision direct.

I don't mind the extra wait if informed and I am expecting it will be worth it. I'm getting a 120" diagonal 2.35 reference studio 4k.
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I ordered mine from EastPorters and it arrived in a couple of weeks. I had very good communications with them, fast response (within a day). I sent my messages to Nathalie at: sales@eastporters.com.

Hopefully your luck will improve. I like my new 4K reference screen, a nice improvement from the Titan screen I had (which is now in the bedroom). Especially in the darker blacks and more details.

Can you expand upon the differences you see between the Titan and the Reference? I've currently got the Titan and am considering upgrading to the reference for $675. Do you think it's worth the extra?
My primary issue with the Titan (aside from the waves I've got and some motor problems) is the sparklies/texturing. I can see the screen on bright screens does this happen with your reference?
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I find that the 4K screen is not quite as bright as my previous Titan screen but then it is also a bit larger at 106" vs 92". It is also a gain 1.0 versus 1.2 screen so I need a little darker room for viewing or the picture gets washed out. I have blackout curtains so this is not a big issue for me. I don't see any sparklies or texturing at all with the new screen. I didn't really notice this on the other screen either, though. The biggest difference I notice is in dark scenes where there is a bit more detail and darker blacks. I don't notice much difference in colour accuracy but it is hard to tell without putting the same image on both screens side by side.

I took some pictures of Avatar on the other screen before I replaced it, I will have to find them and take identical ones to compare. I think I'll do this tonight and try to post my results soon.
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Just had confirmation from EluneVision that my screen will be shipping next week. smile.gif

Hope socal rich gets the same news.
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I just a had an experience with Elunevision that I thought I'd share. I hate to sound like a shill but I find we're so quick to pull out the pitchforks when something goes bad that sometimes we should give credit where credit is due.

I jumped into front projection in Dec of 2013 with a Mits 7900 on blowout and I had no idea of what to look for in a screen. I originally purchased a Elunevision Triton manual pull down in Grey as it was a living room setup. The first time I pulled it down to use it, it sprung back up into the frame and warped the bottom corners of the image. I also noticed how dim it was and that grey may not have been the best match for my low lumen projector. I called Eastporters and they upgraded me to the Titan Tab-Tensioned screen for the difference in price. That call happened on Dec 26th and I had the Titan on NYE.

Once I got the Titan installed I noticed how much better the white screen was for my usage and was very pleased with the upgrade except the drop-limiter was non-functional. I called Eastporters again and after a ton of troubleshooting and fix attempts, they got me a new motor. It took a while to get that as it came from China but I appreciated not having to send back the whole unit for repair. Once the motor arrived and was installed everything worked great. I was happy with the service I received and moved on to darkening my room and moving away from the "living-room" type theater into a "dedicated theater".

After a few more months, the Titan began to develop waves, as this was the whole point of Tab-Tensioning I was disappointed. I decided that I'd had enough of the issues with drop down screens and I'd pull my plasma off the wall and go with a fixed frame. I contacted Elunevision directly as I felt this was outside the responsibility period of the retailer and asked if there was the possibility of trading up to a reference series fixed screen. Dave at Elunevision replied very quickly (on a Saturday) and we worked out a price I felt was very fair. Nathalie at Elunevision called me Monday morning to proceed and I told her I'd call back on Friday and pay.

Friday morning rolled around I called and before I could finish saying why I was calling she said "Is this Sean?" and pulled my order up. I was impressed with the personal level of service. We got it hammered out and the screen was shipped.

I received it yesterday (three business days from paying to having the screen in my hands) and set out to assemble it. Everything went to plan and within an hour and a half or so I had it assembled and hung.

I fired up the projector and WOW. The reference series is amazing. Not a hint of texture or sparklies. Sharpness has increased and corner to corner uniformity is perfect. The image now looks as smooth and detailed as my Plasma does.

Kudos to Elunevision and Eastporters for making a happy customer and an amazing screen.

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A Question for those in Canada..

Where are you purchasing your Elunevision screens? I will be looking into getting one soon, the problem I have is, While EastPorters seems to be the direct contact, they are not the best priced..

I can get it cheaper from FS, Best Buy etc.. and those places offer free shipping.

I had emailed EastPorters and asked about price matching etc.. but have heard nothing back... so its kind of put me off buying directly. Even if they would have replied saying sorry we can't.. but no response at all.. doesn't sit to well.. makes me wonder what any support would be like..

Any Advice?
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A Question for those in Canada..

Where are you purchasing your Elunevision screens? I will be looking into getting one soon, the problem I have is, While EastPorters seems to be the direct contact, they are not the best priced..

I can get it cheaper from FS, Best Buy etc.. and those places offer free shipping.

I had emailed EastPorters and asked about price matching etc.. but have heard nothing back... so its kind of put me off buying directly. Even if they would have replied saying sorry we can't.. but no response at all.. doesn't sit to well.. makes me wonder what any support would be like..

Any Advice?
Just call them on the phone ask them to match or beat the cheaper price


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Hi Guys,

Few more questions... can't seem to make up my mind



On the reference tab tensioned screen, when looking at it the way you would when you project a picture, what side is the power connection on?

Also from the looks of the documentation it ONLY with with the wireless trigger? Or can i use a regular mono 3.5 to trigger it?

I know it comes with remote and hard wired control as well.. but trigger seems the easiest but i don't see why i should pay 70 when i can buy a cable and run it for about 3 bucks...

thanks!
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Hi Guys,

Few more questions... can't seem to make up my mind



On the reference tab tensioned screen, when looking at it the way you would when you project a picture, what side is the power connection on?

Also from the looks of the documentation it ONLY with with the wireless trigger? Or can i use a regular mono 3.5 to trigger it?

I know it comes with remote and hard wired control as well.. but trigger seems the easiest but i don't see why i should pay 70 when i can buy a cable and run it for about 3 bucks...

thanks!

When looking at the screen the power cord is on the right side


cant give you a answer on the trigger
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When looking at the screen the power cord is on the right side


cant give you a answer on the trigger

Thank You..

At least i know what side i should be pulling some wire to...
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I fired up the projector and WOW. The reference series is amazing. Not a hint of texture or sparklies. Sharpness has increased and corner to corner uniformity is perfect. The image now looks as smooth and detailed as my Plasma does.
Glad you're enjoying the screen!

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I've been a happy owner of an 84" Motorized Tab-Tensioned Reference 4K screen for over 3 months now. But as much as I like the convenience and cost/quality factor of this screen I have to admit there is still some texturing and sparkling to the screen. I mean, it is very insignificant but is still present. I know of only 1 company which produces completely textureless screens but they're rigid thus doesn't have the same convenient form-factor as this one. So I still believe this one's is the best value on the market right now (among standard MW screens which are best suited to dedicated HT rooms).
So the Elunevision reference 4k 100 screen is not texture and sparkling free?

@Elix : have you already seen a stewart Snomatt 100?
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So the Elunevision reference 4k 100 screen is not texture and sparkling free?

@Elix : have you already seen a stewart Snomatt 100?
Indeed it isn't:


https://imageshack.com/i/0evg99j

Left: Elunevision, Right: ScreenTech rigid screen. Note that both screens are said to be 1.0 gain. Yet EluneVision is quite a bit brighter. And despite the ST screen having less texture, the picture on the left looks sharper (or have more contrast).

I haven't seen any Stewart screens. They are out of my price range anyway.

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Indeed it isn't:


Left: Elunevision, Right: ScreenTech rigid screen

I haven't seen any Stewart screens. They are out of my price range.

I wonder if this varies from screen to screen, I have had my fixed frame 4K screen for 2 years and have never seen sparkling or texture.Even right up close it is smooth.

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So the Elunevision reference 4k 100 screen is not texture and sparkling free?

@Elix : have you already seen a stewart Snomatt 100?
Indeed it isn't:


Left: Elunevision, Right: ScreenTech rigid screen. Note that both screens are said to be 1.0 gain. Yet EluneVision is quite a bit brighter. And despite the ST screen having less texture, the picture on the left looks sharper (or have more contrast).

I haven't seen any Stewart screens. They are out of my price range anyway.
You say that the Elunevision screen is sharper and at the same time has some structure???

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You say that the Elunevision screen is sharper and at the same time has some structure???
Indeed. That picture closely represents what I'm seeing. I think the perception of sharper image comes from better contrast properties of the screen. And why does it have visually better contrast - due to brightness difference only or there's something else? I don't know. They're both supposed to be 100% diffusive screens.

https://imageshack.com/i/0evg99j

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A Question for those in Canada..

Where are you purchasing your Elunevision screens? I will be looking into getting one soon, the problem I have is, While EastPorters seems to be the direct contact, they are not the best priced..

I can get it cheaper from FS, Best Buy etc.. and those places offer free shipping.

I had emailed EastPorters and asked about price matching etc.. but have heard nothing back... so its kind of put me off buying directly. Even if they would have replied saying sorry we can't.. but no response at all.. doesn't sit to well.. makes me wonder what any support would be like..

Any Advice?
Yah, was actually looking to get a screen as well. Any benefits in ordering the screen from EastPorters as opposed to the Big Box stores which include free shipping,lower msrp price, and 30 day hassle free return? Already have the items in my shopping cart, but would like to hear some advice on this matter. Or better Miloch or Dave could you PM me Thanks.

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Yah, was actually looking to get a screen as well. Any benefits in ordering the screen from EastPorters as opposed to the Big Box stores which include free shipping,lower msrp price, and 30 day hassle free return? Already have the items in my shopping cart, but would like to hear some advice on this matter. Or better Miloch or Dave could you PM me Thanks.
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Hi

So I just put together a 100" Fixed Reference screen from Dave at East porters, I have not mounted it onto wall yet.

I noticed there are wrinkles along the sides/corners! And I can not seem to get rid of it. Can not really pull any more since its locked into place already with tension tabs. What the heck Am I supposed to do now?
Whole purpose of fixed was to not get these things? Any one got ideas?


Also, I was also missing 2 screws, 2 washers for my L brackets that hold the corners of my Frame (using 3 screws instead of default 4 on 2 of the corners now). One of the ore-drilled hole in the corner for frame is too large for the default screws! Have to go to home depot and find my self a larger screw and force it in tight now as well.

I'll give my impressions of the screen later, once I hook up my projector. Still have to get to that as well.
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Hi

So I just put together a 100" Fixed Reference screen from Dave at East porters, I have not mounted it onto wall yet.

I noticed there are wrinkles along the sides/corners! And I can not seem to get rid of it. Can not really pull any more since its locked into place already with tension tabs. What the heck Am I supposed to do now?
Whole purpose of fixed was to not get these things? Any one got ideas?


Also, I was also missing 2 screws, 2 washers for my L brackets that hold the corners of my Frame (using 3 screws instead of default 4 on 2 of the corners now). One of the ore-drilled hole in the corner for frame is too large for the default screws! Have to go to home depot and find my self a larger screw and force it in tight now as well.

I'll give my impressions of the screen later, once I hook up my projector. Still have to get to that as well.
I suggest you contact Dave, he know well about Screen and HT technically.
I just mounted my 150" 4K Reference Fix Screen few weeks ago for my Sony VPL-VW1100ES. Everything is OK.
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Hi

So I just put together a 100" Fixed Reference screen from Dave at East porters, I have not mounted it onto wall yet.

I noticed there are wrinkles along the sides/corners! And I can not seem to get rid of it. Can not really pull any more since its locked into place already with tension tabs. What the heck Am I supposed to do now?
Whole purpose of fixed was to not get these things? Any one got ideas?


Also, I was also missing 2 screws, 2 washers for my L brackets that hold the corners of my Frame (using 3 screws instead of default 4 on 2 of the corners now). One of the ore-drilled hole in the corner for frame is too large for the default screws! Have to go to home depot and find my self a larger screw and force it in tight now as well.

I'll give my impressions of the screen later, once I hook up my projector. Still have to get to that as well.
That screen is awful. A fixed frame screen shouldn't have the slightest hint of a wrinkle. Completely unacceptable. Demand a new screen immediately or a refund.
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Yah, contacted East porters this morning, told them what had happened and show them pictures. They are shipping a whole new unit to me now That is some great customer service, I never even asked for a new unit. (was just thinking of replacing screen only) They just emailed me saying we are shipping you a new one, done. Just gotta take that thing apart now and repack it nicely argh!


Crossing my fingers and hoping the new screen will be perfect!
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My 100" Reference 4K 100 motorized screen arrived within 3 days from Eastporters.
This screen is to replace a fixed Carada Precision Brilliant 1.4, as a PT65ZT60 now holds that position.

Packaging was good. Even though it took a hit to the box that went through the cardboard, plastic and all the way to the metal frame, there did not appear to be any damage.
One end-cap on the bar was cracked, probably from the factory, and there were some scratches from the retaining clamps.
All the hardware, cables, remotes etc were present.
Beware of the supplied mounting screws....the metal is very cheap and the Phillips will it strip easily.

Instructions were adequate. One person can install the screen themselves.
Instructions could be clearer concerning setting the limits of travel.
Raising the lowered limit about 20" from max, took about 2 dozen clockwise full turns of the "B" adjustment screw.

The room is completely light controlled (blackout cloth sewn into curtains). Projector is a Panasonic PT-AE2000U. Throw distance approximately 14'.

I was surprised by the amount of light passing through the screen...this material seems suited for rear projection, as well as front projection.
There is a 65" plasma just a few inches behind the screen.
The reflection of light off the plasma back to the screen has to be a significant detriment to the picture quality.
This may be a deal breaker for me.

Initial impressions were a bit disappointing.
The 1.0 gain Reference material is significantly "duller" than the 1.4 gain Carada, even after recalibrating the brightness and contrast.
I could no longer use my calibrated Color1 preset, and had to switch to the higher output Normal mode.
I'll perform a full recalibration of the Normal mode tonight, but know it will not setup as accurately as the Color1 mode.

The Reference 4K 100 screen appeared much more susceptible to ambient light than the previous screen.
I always was able to have some light in other portions of the room, but a completely dark room is now required to achieve an acceptable contrast ratio.

I'll update after tonights calibration.
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