Originally Posted by biglyle
Why are you posting pictures of other peoples work?
This is exactly the kind of nonsense that must stop. This is what makes this look like an infomercial. This is why people get on your case.
You said you would try a little harder.
How about taking the first step and deleting the stuff you posted, and showing us that this indeed isnt an ego trip, or a sales pitch.
I could do that, but mynym will only put 'em back up again, or something similar or even better. It was done in a "Tongue in cheek" manner, with mynym's knowledge and foreberance.
Access to those images were in fact provided to me by mynym, and he himself did not post them because they were not what he considered good enough. He "refrained" out of "consideration" so I posted them, warts and all, feeling that by doing so, no effort to make the application look "too good' was being made.
If you try hard enough, you can find fault with anything/everything I do, ya know.
Consider this; If you would have me stop posting any images altogether, either of my own work (...even with no mention of a "client") or that of work done by others freely shared with me, you are effectively asking me to stop posting altogether. What I do post is intended to help others see the results they can obtain using the same methods I myself advocate as being correct and do-able.
I'm a different animal than most anybody else on this Forum, and I traipse through a different landscape. I'm trying, and will continue to try to avoid the pit traps you and others say lie in my path, but I will not let those "warnings" castrate my right to present information in the best manner possible to relate to others. If that means posting images at times, that is gonna happen.
Was my posting of how to wrap velvet a crime. Under your guidelines, it would seem to be considered as such. I've posted a bunch of info on another AVS Forum about the installation of Tactile transducers, including images, and have received only plaudits and "thank yous", and be certain I make $$$$ on those applications.
No one begrudges info they can use themselves at their own choice when it's given with the right intent in mind. Except here, where my efforts have indeed attracted far more attention, both good and bad.
BTW, If I myself possessed a FP venue at home, (...which I do not because of a unique Barn Home with very low Kneewalls) and did all my "own" screens there and then posted the results, by your reasoning even that would transgress upon your idea of "promotion", even if no mention was made of my doing such to provide myself with the experience to do the same in business, while at the same time doing such to help others feel confident in trying the same for themselves.
And why? because I own a business where I do the same thing for others for income? That more people on this Forum fail to see a conflict or issue with that is very, very plain.
Of that, I have no doubt.
But even so, I do not fail to take note of your objections, especially when worded in a decent manner. More Flys with Sugar isn't just a metaphor.
Your strong feelings are noted, and even respected, but they are not entirely fair or evenhanded in their expectations. I can make a concerted effort to refrain from mentioning "business', but to state to me that because I'm fortunate enough to have such a business, and thereby to not be allowed to share my methods and results with the DIY community is going to far down a personal road toward censorship and the denial of the same rights afforded to anyone who creates a DIY application, who believes it to be a good one, and "promotes" it as being such. Promotion does not mean "selling" in every instance. In DIY, it means believing in your work and efforts. Many here are "guilty" of exactly the same thing, yet never have you seen me post a ditty where I berated them for be so inclined to do so. Only when statements decrying my apps as "snake oil" or when people use personal grudges or opinions like Attack Dogs do I rise to the occasion.
Even then, so very seldom do I ever resort to insulting behavior.
I said I'd try, and I will try
to not offend sensibilities that I personally feel do not represent the majority of AVS'ers feelings, simply because when one person continually complains, it attracts others like compost attracts flies. (...no offense intended...just a comparison...)
But the steadfast pursuit of every posting I present, and continual complaints of every single aspect of what/why/How come will not effect a feeling of my having a willingness to comply. If I obviously transgress, have at me. But to do so with impunity and a decided lack of fair play and equal rights will not garner any extra degree of compliance, only serve to create more discord. It won't make me stop "trying", but it sure the hell won't make me try any harder than what is fair and just.
As example, berating me on another's thread is not cool. Neither is my need to respond to such. PMs are for such things. Too much lack of consideration for others is what destroys the Forum's whole idea of community. If my postings offend, hit the "Report: button and let a Mod decide. Or PM me, for I'm nothing if not accessable.
I'll try harder. But so should you, don't you think?