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post #751 of 1303 Old 02-25-2009, 09:32 AM
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Hey Ruben,

I have a screen on order. It seems you are using the new black hole material for the frame also. Is that correct?

The screen I ordered is 16 x 9. Is it possible to get horizonal masking panels?
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The week has come where I'll be assembling and installing my SMX.

I just read through the instruction manual and it seems extremely detailed which is great.

My question pertains to the Moire test. I have the Digital Video Essentials calibration disc on blu ray. Should I be using one of the test patterns on that to determine if there is Moire? I noticed the manual said:

"Most people rotate the screen material as much as the frame allows and this method usually works for every- one."

I take it this means if I can't determine whether there is Moire present, that rotating the screen as much as the frame will allow is a safe bet?

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I take it this means if I can't determine whether there is Moire present, that rotating the screen as much as the frame will allow is a safe bet?

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When I was building my screen I read that 15 degrees should do it. That's what I did and it's just fine.
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Hey Ruben,

I have a screen on order. It seems you are using the new black hole material for the frame also. Is that correct?

The screen I ordered is 16 x 9. Is it possible to get horizonal masking panels?

Hi,

Our frame uses another type of black hole velvet that is different from our AT masks but both are really close in blackness. We don't offer the fixed masks for native 16:9 screens as of yet. Only 2.40, 2.37, 2.35 and 1.85 native screens accept the manual mask panels to mask all the constant image height aspect ratio's.

The masks shown a few posts above are for our ProMask automated masking systems which now all come standard with our new acoustically transparent black hole mask panels.
The fixed mask panels we offer for the ProLine and ProCurv are something different.

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The week has come where I'll be assembling and installing my SMX.

I just read through the instruction manual and it seems extremely detailed which is great.

My question pertains to the Moire test. I have the Digital Video Essentials calibration disc on blu ray. Should I be using one of the test patterns on that to determine if there is Moire? I noticed the manual said:

"Most people rotate the screen material as much as the frame allows and this method usually works for every- one."

I take it this means if I can't determine whether there is Moire present, that rotating the screen as much as the frame will allow is a safe bet?

Thanks,
Shawn

Hi Shawn,

You can disregard that moiré test, that is no longer needed with the CineWeave HD. We need to update the manuals accordingly. For future proof projector upgrades (up to 4-8k resolution), just rotate the screen surface at the maximum degree and that will do the trick.

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Hi Shawn,

You can disregard that moiré test, that is no longer needed with the CineWeave HD. We need to update the manuals accordingly. For future proof projector upgrades (up to 4-8k resolution), just rotate the screen surface at the maximum degree and that will do the trick.

Ruben

Awesome thanks for the info

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I didn't do the screen part yet, but I assembled and hung the frame. Had to carry it around the house, wouldn't fit down the stairs. It's huge


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Today I set up my SMX. It was much easier to assemble and attach the screen surface than I thought it would be. The build quality of the frame is top notch and the screen itself it amazing. I'm extremely happy with it Definitely worth the money.

Quick handheld snapshots I took right after hanging it.



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Looking good Shawn! What projector are you using on that 150" wide screen? Looks like it is lighting it up good. Also what color is the wall behind your screen? The wall should be black.

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Looking good Shawn! What projector are you using on that 150" wide screen? Looks like it is lighting it up good. Also what color is the wall behind your screen? The wall should be black.

Ruben

Thanks Ruben. The projector is a JVC RS10. I absolutely love the screen

The wall is black - that's all linacoustic behind there, it's just the color temperature of the shot was bad because I don't know how to use my camera in low light areas.

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Looking good Shawn! What projector are you using on that 150" wide screen? Looks like it is lighting it up good. Also what color is the wall behind your screen? The wall should be black.

Ruben

Here are some better screenshots













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Here are some better screenshots

I like scrolling through and watching the surrounding room change colors with the screen, neat effect. ^_^
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I contacted SMX and they say that they are not selling just the AT material. You have to buy the complete screen with the frame. Is there anyone else that is selling the cineweave material or something close to it? I see all kinds of posts earlier in the thread with people who have just the material.
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Slightly off-topic.

There's a very nice article on electronic house about Ruben Ortiz and how he converted his two car garage into a fabulous DIY home cinema. It's worth a read. Well done Ruben.

Here's the link:

http://www.electronichouse.com/artic...creen_company/




Reading this brought back good memories of following Ruben's massive DIY Home Theatre Construction thread on a daily basis taking the journey along with Ruben through AVS.
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I contacted SMX and they say that they are not selling just the AT material. You have to buy the complete screen with the frame. Is there anyone else that is selling the cineweave material or something close to it? I see all kinds of posts earlier in the thread with people who have just the material.

They sold the material a few years ago. That's when a bunch of us got "lucky". I have a 120" wide 16:9 that hangs in the air with no frame or border of any kind. It's very cool and unfortunately not an available option from SMX. I really like "just the image" suspended in mid-air.
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I had thought about this option in the past... Do you have any pictures ... I'd like to see how this looks... maybe the way to go for my next theater...

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As previously requested above, here are some pictures of our audio transparent ProPanels for our ProLine and ProCurv fixed screens.

Our ProPanels are available in sets of any requested aspect ratios and seamlessly mask our ProLine and ProCurv fixed screens exclusively. Our ProPanels are available as solid or audio transparent with our new black hole mask material.

Shown in the pictures below is a native 2.37:1 ProCurv being masked to 1.33:1 (4:3).

Standard available ProPanel sets include masking of 1.78:1, 1.85:1 and 1.33:1



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Those looks pretty nice. Are they expensive?

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Those looks pretty nice. Are they expensive?

Not at all, you can get more details on the ProPanels HERE

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Please pm me distributors in Ontario Canada.

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Can't wait to get my manual masking panels!
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Is there a screen available in electric or pull down? I looked at the website but looked like everything was fixed.

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Ruben,

To clarify on the new ProPanels, you purchase a pair for each desired AR, correct? So if I wanted to mask a 2.37 down to 1.85 *and* 1.78, I'd buy a 2.37->1.85 ProPanel pair *and* a 2.37->1.78 ProPanel pair?

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On my SMX screen, the cineweave is splined into the channel that puts the material flush with the frame (there is no gap between the material and the back of the frame).

Does the material have to be moved back to the channel that is usually used for optional blackout material to make use of the masking panels?



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To clarify on the new ProPanels, you purchase a pair for each desired AR, correct? So if I wanted to mask a 2.37 down to 1.85 *and* 1.78, I'd buy a 2.37->1.85 ProPanel pair *and* a 2.37->1.78 ProPanel pair?

Correct. So if you have a 2.35, 2.37 or 2.40 native aspect ratio ProLine or ProCurv fixed screen, you can specify a ProPanel set for masking 1.78 (16:9) a ProPanel set for 1.33 (4:3) and another set for 1.85.

We will also have ProPanels available for native 1.78 (16:9) ProLine fixed screens next week. They will mask for 1.33 (4:3) = (side masks) and 1.85:1, 2.35 =(top and bottom masks).

We can also manufacture ProPanels for any other specific aspect ratio requested.

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On my SMX screen, the cineweave is splined into the channel that puts the material flush with the frame (there is no gap between the material and the back of the frame).

Does the material have to be moved back to the channel that is usually used for optional blackout material to make use of the masking panels?

Hi Jamis,

Correct. Plus we supply a track kit to slide and lock the ProPanels in place so there is no risk of popping the screen surface out of the T-Spline channel or damaging the screen surface.

Existing ProLine and ProCurv owners will have to get a replacement screen surface from us to utilize these new ProPanels. New screen orders will have to specify if they intend on doing the ProPanels in the future so we can prepare the frame for it.

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Hi Jamis,

Correct. Plus we supply a track kit to slide and lock the ProPanels in place so there is no risk of popping the screen surface out of the T-Spline channel or damaging the screen surface.

Existing ProLine and ProCurv owners will have to get a replacement screen surface from us to utilize these new ProPanels. New screen orders will have to specify if they intend on doing the ProPanels in the future so we can prepare the frame for it.

Ruben

Thanks for the reply, Ruben.

I assume there is an added cost for the replacement screen material for existing customers?

I am very excited about these panels. I am seriously considering them for masking my 2.37:1 screen down to 16:9 (no need for 4:3) later this year.
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Is there a screen available in electric or pull down? I looked at the website but looked like everything was fixed.

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Hello Ruben,

I have sent you an email this morning regarding 120" 2:35 AT curved screen.
I am planning on getting Panasonic 3000U. Do you think I should go with 2:35, 2:37 or 2:40? my room size is 19'W X 22'L 8'H.

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Hello Ruben,

I have sent you an email this morning regarding 120" 2:35 AT curved screen.
I am planning on getting Panasonic 3000U. Do you think I should go with 2:35, 2:37 or 2:40? my room size is 19'W X 22'L 8'H.

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Hi Tas,

Are you using an anamorphic lens and scaler with your 3000U?

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