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I have had a SMX promaskcurv AT 140" in storage. Mint condition with remote etc.

Any ideas on what it's worth? Hate to sell it but have more kids then rooms lol

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One concern is whether the material is still attached to the screen or did you take it out and roll it up? After installing the material, I don't see how you could re-install it with so little material (after trimming) to create tension and get a smooth surface.

I really like my SMX screen, but it was a royal pain to install that material. I would have nightmares thinking I need to replace it.

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Have you tried any 3D to see if the material retains any polarization?
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It's awning material, believe it or not! Good for Ruben for finding this stuff and re-branding it, I say! It works very well except it seems the gain isn't up to what he claimed. There are also rumors of Ruben never wanting to do color uniformity tests, but I don't see an issue myself.

It's this: http://www.phifer.com/suncontrol/int...4600/20/4600-3
My recollection is that Rubin originally bought some Phifer Sheerweave to test, and found he liked it, but then ordered a roll custom made with a much finer mesh than is available "retail". I believe this is what I have, my screen is off that first roll Rubin bought.

Again, my recollection is that Rubin wasn't in it to make a screen company, but he couldn't find a screen he liked so he ended up making his own. But since he had to buy a whole roll he sold the "waste" to us forum members to recoup the costs. And after that, the rest is as they say, history.

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That's the funny thing... don't kid yourself... it's very "decent" material! The audio doesn't require EQ and the pic is great. Angle it at 15 degrees and there's no moire pattern. That's the way your screen should have been built. It out-performs many of the legit brands. No other brand I know of requires no eq. All users I know of, including me, are still very pleased with its performance. I think you'd just mess it up for no good reason.
Agreed, I'm very happy with my screen.

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Have you tried any 3D to see if the material retains any polarization?
I seriously doubt it retains any polarization.
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Have you tried any 3D to see if the material retains any polarization?

My SMX screen does not have the AT material, so I can't comment

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Sms screen

It think there is a misunderstanding of what I have. It's the procurve 140 remote control auto masking screen. Cost 13,000 or more . The screen material has metal eyelits and goes on easy.

I can't find online anyone selling something like this which Is why I have no idea what it's worth. It is like brand new.

So if anyone has an idea on what I should list it for please let me know

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It think there is a misunderstanding of what I have. It's the procurve 140 remote control auto masking screen. Cost 13,000 or more . The screen material has metal eyelits and goes on easy.

I can't find online anyone selling something like this which Is why I have no idea what it's worth. It is like brand new.

So if anyone has an idea on what I should list it for please let me know

Thanks
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Just from my perspective:

The original cost doesn't matter.
I would never buy a curved screen.
And, most importantly it's orphaned.

So... for me... I wouldn't expect to get much. Sorry if I sound harsh, but I am just one datapoint in the market.
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That's the funny thing... don't kid yourself... it's very "decent" material! The audio doesn't require EQ and the pic is great. Angle it at 15 degrees and there's no moire pattern. That's the way your screen should have been built. It out-performs many of the legit brands. No other brand I know of requires no eq. All users I know of, including me, are still very pleased with its performance. I think you'd just mess it up for no good reason.
Audio wise, there are other woven AT screens that have equal performance. Maybe even better. Do you know of measured results for SMX?

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It think there is a misunderstanding of what I have. It's the procurve 140 remote control auto masking screen. Cost 13,000 or more . The screen material has metal eyelits and goes on easy.

I can't find online anyone selling something like this which Is why I have no idea what it's worth. It is like brand new.

So if anyone has an idea on what I should list it for please let me know

Thanks
Rich
Often times, screens do not do well packaged up for a long period of time. That and the lack of manufacturer's support are going to knock the bottom out of the selling price.

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Just from my perspective:

The original cost doesn't matter.
I would never buy a curved screen.
And, most importantly it's orphaned.

So... for me... I wouldn't expect to get much. Sorry if I sound harsh, but I am just one datapoint in the market.
One catch, the curved screen with some anamorphic lens actully help defeat geometry distortions from the anamorphic lens.
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One catch, the curved screen with some anamorphic lens actully help defeat geometry distortions from the anamorphic lens.
Yes, you are right. But as projectors get brighter and more and more sport lens memory, people are opting to retain pixel-for-pixel projection. I'm not saying anamorphic lenses are gone, by any means. But they are loosing popularity.
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Audio wise, there are other woven AT screens that have equal performance. Maybe even better. Do you know of measured results for SMX?
Yes, there are. But the SMX is definitely in the running. It's no slouch.

The only audio measurements I have are my own. It was very good to 18kHz and then down 3db @ 20. I'll see if I can find the sweeps. I used REW.
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Richvan - Can you post the overall dimensions (especially the width) of your screen. Have you settled on a price yet?
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Nevermind - found the specs and since 140 is the width and not the diagonal it is too big for me.

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Any SMX screen owner replaced their original material with an alternative material? Since my smx frame has the channel system used to install/secure the screen material, it's gong to take special thickness of material to both stretch and yet fit into the frame's channels. Also, how much larger of the dimensions of the material did you order (than the frame dimensions) in order to properly stretch and work with the material for proper installation?

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Any SMX screen owner replaced their original material with an alternative material? Since my smx frame has the channel system used to install/secure the screen material, it's gong to take special thickness of material to both stretch and yet fit into the frame's channels. Also, how much larger of the dimensions of the material did you order (than the frame dimensions) in order to properly stretch and work with the material for proper installation?

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I know this is an old post, but I would think so long as the screen material you order is the same thickness or thinner, you'd be fine. If it's the same thickness, you'd be good to go. If it was thinner/slightly too thin, you could just find another thin material and line it up with it until you get a thickness that allows it to be snug. You'd be able to find that out with a simple square "sample" that most screen companies would be willing to provide.
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guys- I have a 14' wide curved proscreen that the movers destroyed the 2- 14' long frames anyone know where i can get them replaced- thanks
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guys- I have a 14' wide curved proscreen that the movers destroyed the 2- 14' long frames anyone know where i can get them replaced- thanks


Yikes. Unfortunately, SMX is long defunct and I think you're going to run into some real difficulty here. It may be worth a call to one of the other smaller scale screen manufacturers who are present here on AVS (i.e. Falcon or Seymour) as they may have some familiarity with SMX. It's a (very) long shot, but it's possible that their frame profile matches or could be adapted to fit your SMX frame profile. That sounds like a lot of headache and is probably not much less expensive than a new frame.


Realistically, your best bet is to contact your movers (or their insurance provider) and to pursue a new screen through them. This one is probably not repairable.



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If anyone stumbles upon this thread and wonders what great AT screen solutions still exist, I strongly suggest you consider SeymourAV. Go to their website. Look at their specs. When I bought my AT screen a few years ago, I was considering a SMX screen, but the price Rubin was asking for what I needed was out of my budget. I am so glad I went with SeymourAV! the frame is sturdy, the screen material performs very well from an acoustical point of view, and the gain of the material is slightly better than what Rubin sold! And I was left with a few extra thousand (yes, thousand) dollars to buy other AV stuff...
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If anyone stumbles upon this thread and wonders what great AT screen solutions still exist, I strongly suggest you consider SeymourAV. Go to their website. Look at their specs. When I bought my AT screen a few years ago, I was considering a SMX screen, but the price Rubin was asking for what I needed was out of my budget. I am so glad I went with SeymourAV! the frame is sturdy, the screen material performs very well from an acoustical point of view, and the gain of the material is slightly better than what Rubin sold! And I was left with a few extra thousand (yes, thousand) dollars to buy other AV stuff...
Does the Seymour AV require audio eq?
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Not really...from what I remember, their XD material has a real life gain of 0.98 and it attenuates only 1.5 to 2 decibels at the highest frequencies of the audible spectrum...their website has more details, of course.
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Does the Seymour AV require audio eq?
No. The Seymour AV fabric attenuates pretty evenly, so only costs you a tiny bit of output.
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guys - Can you run stereo speakers for 2 channel behind the AT screen without any sound loss-I know for movies it is fine but for more delicate hi end 2- channel I wonder if you lose any of the 3d magic or depth if you run the speakers behind the screen- thks
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I wouldn't hesitate to run stereo behind an AT screen.
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