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Yes, the Enlightor-Neo is available in retractable form. The S-SE line may switch to using it exclusively on retractables as it has advantages for both viewer and maker.

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For anyone who has seen a full size display (vs. sample size) of the NEO material, did you see any moire?

I ask because the NEO is not a randomized weave.



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For anyone who has seen a full size display (vs. sample size) of the NEO material, did you see any moire?

I ask because the NEO is not a randomized weave.
We showed it at AXPONA with the JVC 4K RS4500 and will soon at CEDIA with Wolf Cinema's hot-rodded version. The weave density is simply too small and dense to moire. I've tested it to 16K resolution on our entire size range and can't induce any artifacts.

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Hey guys,

I have a optoma UHD60, looking for a screen now. Considering my budget, I am planning for Seymour Centerstage XD 98"h 16:9 130" diagonal screen. I just want to know whether it will be good for 4K viewing as well ?

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Hey guys,

I have a optoma UHD60, looking for a screen now. Considering my budget, I am planning for Seymour Centerstage XD 98"h 16:9 130" diagonal screen. I just want to know whether it will be good for 4K viewing as well ?

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Though I don't have a 4k projector, I just purchased close to this exact screen and in my research this will do very well with 4k. It was important to me as that upgrade is not too far away.
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Hey guys,

I have a optoma UHD60, looking for a screen now. Considering my budget, I am planning for Seymour Centerstage XD 98"h 16:9 130" diagonal screen. I just want to know whether it will be good for 4K viewing as well ?

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What is going to be your viewing distance? Also something does not make sense in your post. A 98" high image is a 200" diagonal 16:9 and a 174" wide 16:9 image. Don't know if you mean 130" wide or diagonal, but I assume the 98" high is wrong. Anyway, if talking 130" wide, then the UHD60 will be pushing it to light up that size screen, once calibrated.

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What is going to be your viewing distance? Also something does not make sense in your post. A 98" high image is a 200" diagonal 16:9 and a 174" wide 16:9 image. Don't know if you mean 130" wide or diagonal, but I assume the 98" high is wrong. Anyway, if talking 130" wide, then the UHD60 will be pushing it to light up that size screen, once calibrated.
I am in contact with Jon from Seymour, he confirmed its CenterStage XD 98"h ..... its a 130" diagonal 16:9. Anyway, am not sure whether its 98"high or not, he just mentioned its CenterStage XD.
So, when you say it will light up that screen, is it good or bad ?
I am just looking at something which will go good with UHD60 and within my budget.
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Hey guys,

I have a optoma UHD60, looking for a screen now. Considering my budget, I am planning for Seymour Centerstage XD 98"h 16:9 130" diagonal screen. I just want to know whether it will be good for 4K viewing as well ?

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The Centerstage XD is superb for 4k at any budget. The woven fabric is my favorite feature...no distortions like what the perforated screens suffer from at larger sizes. I'm 13' from a 12' wide Centerstage XD 16:9, and with a 4k image, and I can assure you that the biggest issue is not screen and projectors, but the quality of the source. Passengers: PRISTINE. The Accountant? Less so. Patriot's Day? Ehhh...best experienced from the 2nd row, even in 4k.


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I am in contact with Jon from Seymour, he confirmed its CenterStage XD 98"h ..... its a 130" diagonal 16:9. Anyway, am not sure whether its 98"high or not, he just mentioned its CenterStage XD.
So, when you say it will light up that screen, is it good or bad ?
I am just looking at something which will go good with UHD60 and within my budget.
If it is 130" diagonal 16:9, then your image height is 63.7". The UHD60 has enough light output, once calibrated to light up your screen.

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OK Chris has done it again. The new screen looks really good. I think he said he is getting around .8 gain on this screen. The masking system also is nice. As Mike pointed out to me, it hugs the screen so there is no gap between the mask and the screen.
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Is the Neo-screen made of "vinyl" or is it some kind of cloth/fabric ?

(Are Neo the same material as UF-Center Stage?)

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The neo is fabric and not vinyl. It is different than the UF, actually a LOT nicer than the UF. I have the UF and now want to upgrade. The picture does not do it justice, it is very smooth in person and without a doubt the best AT screen I have seen for lack of noticeable weave. It will be considerably more expensive than the UF.
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The neo is fabric and not vinyl. It is different than the UF, actually a LOT nicer than the UF. I have the UF and now want to upgrade. The picture does not do it justice, it is very smooth in person and without a doubt the best AT screen I have seen for lack of noticeable weave. It will be considerably more expensive than the UF.
Ok,thanks. Do you know if Neo-screen is sold thru SeymourAV, and do they have samples ?
Chris probably know I would like to try this out, but personally i often find the "fabric" screens look a tad dull compared to vinyl.

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Am I looking at this right? If I wanted to do a 92x52" screen I would need to order 5ft?

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Ok,thanks. Do you know if Neo-screen is sold thru SeymourAV, and do they have samples ?
Chris probably know I would like to try this out, but personally i often find the "fabric" screens look a tad dull compared to vinyl.
It is sold through Screen Excellence which Chris is in charge of in the US. I am not sure if you go through a dealer or Chris directly in the US. But I am sure Chris can answer your questions.
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Am I looking at this right? If I wanted to do a 92x52" screen I would need to order 5ft?

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Call them, I am not sure if its orientation needs to go a certain direction.
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I am in contact with Jon from Seymour, he confirmed its CenterStage XD 98"h ..... its a 130" diagonal 16:9. Anyway, am not sure whether its 98"high or not, he just mentioned its CenterStage XD.
So, when you say it will light up that screen, is it good or bad ?
I am just looking at something which will go good with UHD60 and within my budget.
98" high is the width of the roll. It will be cut to whatever size you want.

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Call them, I am not sure if its orientation needs to go a certain direction.
Yes and don't forget to account for extra from overlap or other installation excess.

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The Enlightor-Neo is only available through the Seymour-Screen Excellence brand, and CEDIA dealers or installers.

For the record, the material picture a couple posts back was with a top / low-angle lighting and without a reference for scale. With front lighting the material looks far smoother and you can't see any residual patterns. That was the point of the demo, was to come up to the screen and check out the optical fringing and interpixel gaps that were still visible in the $50k Wolf Cinema 4K D-ILA projector. A fantastic projector to be sure, but from a screen maker's perspective it demonstrates to folks that we're not obscuring any information from the projector. If you have good optics and are careful on focus you can even see the stem dimple in a DLP pixel. When the AT screen behaves like a solid screen optically, then we are enable to further practice best video - cinema sized immersion - and of course all the acoustical best practices like our mastering studio clients.

The good news for the Seymour AV line is that the thin 1.5"w fixed frame and new masking screen we introduced will be made available consumer direct. For those that lament the demise of Carada's Masquerade system, we now several slick options.

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(FTR I was standing 2ft from the Enlightor-Neo screen in the background)

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Good question. I wonder about that for the 2.37:1 EN4K screen I have. I wanted to get the magnetic panels but apparently those cannot be ordered after the fact, but have to be ordered at the time one gets one's screen

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Is the Neo-screen made of "vinyl" or is it some kind of cloth/fabric ?

(Are Neo the same material as UF-Center Stage?)

That picture doesn't do the screen justice without context.

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The material is fabric and seems like a fine knit material more so than woven. It is not the UF. I have the UF on one of the screens in my home and after seeing this I want to upgrade! It is the closest I have seen an AT screen look like a solid screen. It is very hard to tell the difference. You really have to look very close or magnify it to see that it is fabric. That picture does not do it justice at all. It looks smoother than the cheap matte white solid screens I have seen.
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Will the new masking system work with Center Stage XD Screens?

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Yes. All our screen materials, be they grip channel attached (S-SE's Enlightor-4K and Enlightor-Neo) or grommet/o-ring (everything else).

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Seymour AV pricing of the new Proscenium motorized masking frame is up. Next I'll work on the product information section in the masking page. When I get the crate back from CEDIA I can take prettier pictures.

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Am I looking at this right? If I wanted to do a 92x52" screen I would need to order 5ft?

http://www.seymourav.com/store.asp
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Is the masking available now? I have a 126" diagonal 16x9 XD Screen.

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@chriscmore is this right?
If you know you can get away with a no-tilt application, yeah, five linear feet would get you a 60" x 98" piece. If you want to do like our fixed frame screens and cut it at a 20 degree with respect to the roll, either you or we would need to start with nine linear feet (108" x 98"), cut your piece and toss the triangle scraps.

For that relatively small size, I'd recommend our Center Stage UF, as you shouldn't need such gain and you'd have a closer-viewing material without having to worry about the tilted cut thing.

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It is. I put the pricing information on the page and will take prettier pictures next week when I get the CEDIA screen back.

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can enlightor-neo be purchased for DIY? currently using UF... would like to try out new fabric.
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