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post #361 of 2717 Old 02-09-2009, 06:38 AM
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Here's a link to my XD gallery.

Let me know if there are any problems viewing it or if you have any questions. Thanks!

The source material in these screen shots was either the HQV 1080p test disc or Ratatouille on BluRay, via a Pioneer 51FD and a Mits HC6500. I still have some pattern, especially on faces, but it's better than before. I'm not sure how to get totally rid of it, and I think maybe I sit too close.

Oh well, stop staring at pixels and enjoy the show, that's what my mum used to say.
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Looks great bmw!!
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Is the brightness about the same?
If i have original without any moire problems would you switch?

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bmw,
Is the brightness about the same?
If i have original without any moire problems would you switch?

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Scott,

I'd say the brightness is about the same, but there is a hair more ANSI contrast. If you don't have any moire problems with the original, I would think you should be ok. The only way to check for sure is to have Chris send you a sample. Everybody's pj's and throw distance is different, so I can't throw a blanket statement on saying that this material will be unequivocally better for everybody. It probably will be though, based on what I've seen on my setup.

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Hey bmw, I know you had your old A lens on the block before. What new lens did you get if any? Are you happier with it?.
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Hey bmw, I know you had your old A lens on the block before. What new lens did you get if any? Are you happier with it?.

I'm zooming for now until I can save my nickels up for a Prismasonic/Panamorph. Then of course I'll rebuild my screen yet again. ACK!>!>!(*@#$(*asdljhasdfn
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Well at least one of your options is now cheaper since they did away with dealers. I think it's prismasonic, can't remember which.
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I'm thinking about switching to an acoustically "transparent" screen. I'm trying to decide between the newer Elite perf screen or a DIY screen. Anyone have any comparisons between these two? So far this seems like the better route but a brief review at projector reviews said the Elite was decent.

Of course if I go AT I'm going to have to switch speakers. I just don't have room for my existing speakers unless I just fire the rear ports in to the furnace room behind that wall. I might try the other side but I'd still lesson my room length by like 1 1/2-2'. Then again, I kind of don't have that room now with my speakers sitting out on the floor.

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BMWRACER3,

Just a question, are the material pictures posted in your the link posted backwards??
It could just be the pictures but if you scroll back a page on this thread, the material you posted as "OLD" looks a lot like the "New" material posted on page 12?

Again it could just be the picture. I am just wondering as I am going to order from Chris some material and I am still leaning towards the "original" as the pattern looks smoother.

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Ok I had the page 12 pictures up with your pictures and honestly it is hard to tell. I think the 3rd picture of the new material on page 12 gave me the impression above.

Can you tell me which what has a smoother texture?
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BMWRACER3,

Just a question, are the material pictures posted in your the link posted backwards??
It could just be the pictures but if you scroll back a page on this thread, the material you posted as "OLD" looks a lot like the "New" material posted on page 12?

Again it could just be the picture. I am just wondering as I am going to order from Chris some material and I am still leaning towards the "original" as the pattern looks smoother.

EDIT:
Ok I had the page 12 pictures up with your pictures and honestly it is hard to tell. I think the 3rd picture of the new material on page 12 gave me the impression above.

Can you tell me which what has a smoother texture?

The XD is definitely smoother. I'll take a more like for like picture tonight to compare. My XD shot before was taken while I was standing over the material in while it was laying out on the floor.
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BMWRACER3,
Much appreciated. I am going to contact Chris and order the new XD.

Off topic question, in your pictures "new material laying on the floor". The white column on the left of that picture and the one in the back ground along the wall. Are they support post covered that way? Or just decorative? I know off topic but we are working on our basement and my wife saw it loved the look. We have two supports I can not hide in walls. Either way I think we found an answer in your pictures =)

Thanks for the feed back on the XD
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Much appreciated. I am going to contact Chris and order the new XD.

Off topic question, in your pictures "new material laying on the floor". The white column on the left of that picture and the one in the back ground along the wall. Are they support post covered that way? Or just decorative? I know off topic but we are working on our basement and my wife saw it loved the look. We have two supports I can not hide in walls. Either way I think we found an answer in your pictures =)

Thanks for the feed back on the XD

XD is the way to go.

Those are support posts in the pics. Basically you take 4 rips of MDF, glue them together, flute them with a router, and they slap crown at the top and 1 or 2 pieces of shoe on the bottom. Pretty easy really, although I hired my trim guy to do it. I wanted to buy some time back.
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I just ordered the XD material for my DIY screen (115" wide 2.35:1) build. The evolution of this thread with all the user comments and along with Chris from Seymour AV, sold me on this product.

Thanks for sharing all of your experiences.
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I received my XD in the last few days and I have to say it is excellent material. Very pleased with the material and Chris. Would highley recommend to anyone looking at the DIY route.
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Screen ordered, thanks Chris...

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I'm thinking about switching to an acoustically "transparent" screen. I'm trying to decide between the newer Elite perf screen or a DIY screen. Anyone have any comparisons between these two? So far this seems like the better route but a brief review at projector reviews said the Elite was decent.

Of course if I go AT I'm going to have to switch speakers. I just don't have room for my existing speakers unless I just fire the rear ports in to the furnace room behind that wall. I might try the other side but I'd still lesson my room length by like 1 1/2-2'. Then again, I kind of don't have that room now with my speakers sitting out on the floor.

The projector central review of the elite material was for their new woven, not the perforated vinyl they're still stelling at sizes of 110" and below (16:9). No one has seen their new material to compare to the old or new center stage, shearweave 4500, or anything. I go with what's been tested and proven by the community.
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Screen delivered in perfect shape!

Thanks again Chris for your help and patience!

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Are the Center Stage screens available ONLY as retractable screens? Or are they sold as fixed screens as well? From the Seymour AV website it seems as if they are only retractable (or DIY).
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They only sell retractables ready made, but sell the screen material and possibly frames to make your own fixed screen.
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Hello hello,

I received a sample of the Seymour, and Seymour XD material last week. Can definately see the weave is smaller and tighter on the XD. I taped the material up to a wall, and a sample of Carada BW. Both Seymours, and the Carada look great to me, to be honest...I have a hard time telling the difference from 9-10 feet. I thought it would be obvious (higher gain. no holes), so I am wondering if that sounds right? Could it be some of the high gloss paint is reflecting from behind the holes on the AT material, thus making it brighter? Or both just that good ?
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That good, of course! Actually, I think it's harder to pick out a screen that is brighter, if the gain of ALL the material you are looking at is adequate. But if you are on the edge, with the lower gain screens being obviously too dim, then the brighter screens will be more obvious, because you really needed the extra brightness. Testing screen gain side by side would also be influenced by the brightness of the movie scene being viewed, and room ambient light. The darker the room and movie scene, the more the difference might stand out as well. All that said, I have always been impressed with the gain and brightness of my SeymourAV AT screen.
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Hello hello,

I received a sample of the Seymour, and Seymour XD material last week. Can definately see the weave is smaller and tighter on the XD. I taped the material up to a wall, and a sample of Carada BW. Both Seymours, and the Carada look great to me, to be honest...I have a hard time telling the difference from 9-10 feet. I thought it would be obvious (higher gain. no holes), so I am wondering if that sounds right? Could it be some of the high gloss paint is reflecting from behind the holes on the AT material, thus making it brighter? Or both just that good ?

Hi Kainers -

You should place something dark behind any AT fabric to more realistically see how it will look. If the surface behind the material is reflective enough, it can introduce artifacts that wouldn't occur in a proper installation.

Also, make sure you're evaluating it with projected light, similar to how you'd be watching a movie with respect to ambient light and throw distance.

I'm a huge fan of the Carada BW material, so if you don't need AT, they're a great product and what I typically recommend. Regarding brightness differences, I've had some people comment that we look nearly as bright (if you're within about 10% it's hard to tell without a meter), and some people notice the BW is definitely brighter. While the BW is certainly higher gain, the real world differences depend on your application. Hence, samples...

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Ok, how do I email Chris? I need to begin with ordering a couple of samples to make sure I'm getting what I need/want.
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Ok, how do I email Chris? I need to begin with ordering a couple of samples to make sure I'm getting what I need/want.

chris@seymourav.com
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Just ordered my XD material today from Chris. I'm excited to get the screen built next week and try this out as it's the first AT screen I will try. Mine will only be 97" wide for a 2.37 scope screen, but at a 10' viewing distance and with my FPJ1 it should be plenty big. I'll post some pics when it's in use.

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Anyone in the eastern MA or southern NH area still have their box for an x090 retractable?

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I'm having Moire' isue with my just build 135" 2:40:1 screen. I've used 4500 material and didn't get the 96" or something inch., but the smaller one (that might have been my mystake). Look in the link http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1109260&page=3
I'm using Epson 1080UB, will xd material eliminate my problem? I try to order XD sample as well. Thanks...

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yourtoys7, I just finished my XD DIY screen build (115" wide 2.35:1 with a 4.5 degree tilt). I have a Panny 3000 PJ and sit between 11' to 16' from the screen and I have zero moire issues.
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