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post #271 of 845 Old 09-29-2008, 10:03 AM
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Where can I find a throw distance calculator for the HW10?
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European Review up at TrustedReviews

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...D-Projector/p1

They seem to imply that the HW10 has MotionFlow??
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What makes the HW10 particularly exciting, though, is the amount of features Sony has managed to get into it without pushing the price higher – including the ‘intriguing’ MotionFlow processing first discovered on Sony’s high-end VPL-VW200 projector.

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Where can I find a throw distance calculator for the HW10?

Not available yet but for 16 :9 aspect, try this formula :

L = distance from lens to screen

L minimum (inch) = ((31.1781 X screen diag in inch)-46.1543)*0.0394
L maximum (inch) = ((47.0644 X screen diag in inch)-42.3308)*0.0394

Example:

For 100 inch screen
121 = ((31.1781 X 100)-46.1543)*0.0394
183.76 = ((47.0644 X 100)-42.3308)*0.0394

For 120 inch screen
145.6 = ((31.1781 X 120)-46.1543)*0.0394
220.85 = ((47.0644 X 120)-42.3308)*0.0394
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I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post this question - "but does anyone have these in stock?" AVS still seems to be back ordered...

Thanks -
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European Review up at TrustedReviews

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...D-Projector/p1

They seem to imply that the HW10 has MotionFlow??

They also claim HW10 supports anamorphic mode. Hmm ...
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European Review up at TrustedReviews

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...D-Projector/p1

They seem to imply that the HW10 has MotionFlow??

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They also claim HW10 supports anamorphic mode. Hmm ...

The HW10 Operating Instructions that can be downloaded from Sony website does not mention these features at all but then it does not show f.ex. what settings can be found under Color Temp. -> Custom N menu item. Typical Sony manual... half of the stuff is not explained in the manual at all and user has to work through trial and error to figure out how their devices work in practise.

I do not believe that these features are supported but if they are WOW!

Edit: maybe these features are included in the European HW10 version and US gets stripped down HW10 version? That would explain why the Operating Instructions does not have them explained or listed at all (downloaded from Sony US website).
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European Review up at TrustedReviews

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...D-Projector/p1

They seem to imply that the HW10 has MotionFlow??

The VPL-HW10 has 3 new menus in the Expert mode window:

New Expert settings

1-MPEG Noise reduction

2-Film Mode

3-X.V Color


Would the film mode be something like MotionFlow ?

Here is the description from the manual:


Film Mode:

According to the film source you have selected, make a setting for playback.

Auto: Reproduces a 2-3 or 2-2 Pull-Down format video signal, such as film sources, in a smooth picture movement. When a video signal other than 2-3 or 2-2 Pull-Down format is input, the picture is played back in progressive format.

Off : Plays back the picture in progressive format without detecting video signals automatically.

After checking the VPL-VW60 manual, it sounds like a new name for the DDE (Dynamic Detail Enhancer) Mode...
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The VPL-HW10 has 3 new menus in the Expert mode window:

New Expert settings

1-MPEG Noise reduction

2-Film Mode

3-X.V Color


Would the film mode be something like MotionFlow ?

Here is the description from the manual:


Film Mode:

According to the film source you have selected, make a setting for playback.

Auto: Reproduces a 2-3 or 2-2 Pull-Down format video signal, such as film sources, in a smooth picture movement. When a video signal other than 2-3 or 2-2 Pull-Down format is input, the picture is played back in progressive format.

Off : Plays back the picture in progressive format without detecting video signals automatically.

After checking the VPL-VW60 manual, it sounds like a new name for the DDE (Dynamic Detail Enhancer) Mode...

That's just standard 3:2 pulldown detection and removal. i.e with it switched on, 60i film material is output at 24fps. with it switched off, 60i is shown as 60p retaining the original 3:2 judder.
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Does the review link not work? I coudn't get it to work.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...D-Projector/p1

Thanks,

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Does the review link not work? I coudn't get it to work.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...D-Projector/p1

Thanks,

Warren

They've pulled it, due to the technical inaccuracies (read nonsense). We'll see if it emerges again, with corrections.
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They've pulled it, due to the technical inaccuracies (read nonsense). We'll see if it emerges again, with corrections.

Thanks!

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Kinda makes you wonder if they even had the projector for review....

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They've pulled it, due to the technical inaccuracies (read nonsense). We'll see if it emerges again, with corrections.

Think they will drop the "trusted" from their site name?

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http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl...RyKfSoWBOzIy3A

Another review of the HW10...

Nice - thanks for posting.
It translates quite well and seems to match with everyone's expectations.
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http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl...RyKfSoWBOzIy3A

Another review of the HW10...

I can only see the opening page. Where is the rest of the review?
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Click on the side options and it will take you to the other parts.
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This unit ships from the UK from a reputable store for 2,422.96 USD.

VPL-HW10: 1,495 GBP
Subtract 17.5% VAT -222.66 GBP
Total: 1,272.34 GBP
FedEx Express 91.00 GBP

Total: 1363.84 GBP (or 2,422.96 USD).

Finally the question, has anyone successfuly wired a UK projector at 240 volts? They made it clear to me that the unit comes in 240v only.

Thoughts?
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This unit ships from the UK from a reputable store for 2,422.96 USD.

VPL-HW10: 1,495 GBP
Subtract 17.5% VAT -222.66 GBP
Total: 1,272.34 GBP
FedEx Express 91.00 GBP

Total: 1363.84 GBP (or 2,422.96 USD).

Finally the question, has anyone successfuly wired a UK projector at 240 volts? They made it clear to me that the unit comes in 240v only.

Thoughts?

Or you could just call Jason at AVS and get one that is wired for the U.S. and comes with a warranty. I'm sure the price will be competitive.
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isn't it time for a shootout between the HW10, the VW40 and the VW60? especially since i want to buy a projector in the very near future?

(and i have no need for 2:35 capability)
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isn't it time for a shootout between the HW10, the VW40 and the VW60? especially since i want to buy a projector in the very near future?

(and i have no need for 2:35 capability)

I agree! What do you think, Jason? (Hint, hint!)

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Click on the side options and it will take you to the other parts.

How silly of me. Thanks.
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isn't it time for a shootout between the HW10, the VW40 and the VW60? especially since i want to buy a projector in the very near future?

(and i have no need for 2:35 capability)

This would be very interesting for me as it should clear up one point, at least, about the relative image sharpness.
Jason gives the impression that the HW10 is very sharp, whereas Art Feierman, on the other hand, criticised the VW60 because of its relative softness. They use the same lens, but the HW10 uses the Bravia 2 engine. Could this be the difference?
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I keep reading all these great reviews, but can not seem to find this model in stock ANYWHERE? Suggestions?

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I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post this question - "but does anyone have these in stock?" AVS still seems to be back ordered...

Thanks -

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IN stock at Sonystyle.com as of today...
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and shipping Monday...hopefully!
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and shipping Monday...hopefully!

CC2 Unfortunately, Sonystyle.com not .ca...
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whats new?

Ok, while waiting for this thing to ship... can you guys recommend a cheap screen for this PJ, which is not too cheap to decrease the picture qualitiy? In other words: Since this PJ is too expensive for my wallet, but I'll buy it anyway, I have to watch my money on that screen now. So what screen is cheap but still good?

edit: I just saw this is my first post, so : WHAAASUUUUUUUUP? Im a bug fan of y'all, really, been reading alot around here, all great people. Far out.

How can I add those funny smilies?
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"Cheap" is a relative term. I'm getting this PJ and am pairing it with a Carada 118" Bright White (1.4 Gain). To me, that screen is "cheap" compared to a Stewart.

So, what price range are you looking at?

BTW, Jason recommended to me a higher gain screen for this PJ, even though my theater is 100% light controlled.

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whats new?

Ok, while waiting for this thing to ship... can you guys recommend a cheap creen for this PJ, which is not too cheap to decrease the picture qualitiy? In other words: Since this PJ is too expensive for my wallet, but I'll buy it anyway, I have to watch my money on that screen now. So what screen is cheap but still good?

edit: I just saw this is my first post, so : WHAAASUUUUUUUUP? Im a bug fan of y'all, really, been reading alot around here, all great people. Far out.

How can I add those funny smilies?

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Mustang pulldown screens are really cheap...
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