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Quick questions guys, anyone received there free bluray player yet?

Received my free player today. I think I sent my coupon in about 3 weeks ago so it came in a lot earlier than expected.
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Thanks...

I did not find the warranty card among my other goodies.

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Could be the warranty card is only in Canadian boxes?

I also have one...
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Jason may have left mine out when he inspected my HW10. No big deal.

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Quick questions guys, anyone received there free bluray player yet?

Is this only for non-US models? If not, how exactly do you get one, there was no such coupon in my box.
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Why would you opt for the blu ray over the lamp? I opted for the lamp. My theory is that the blu ray player will drop in price (like a rock) after the holidays. It may lose half of its value in the next month or so.

The lamp, however, is an item that will likely stay at $300-$400 for the next several years. If sony is the only one making it, I doubt if it will ever drop in price at the same rate at the blu ray.

I guess the only benefit of the blu ray over the lamp is that you get instant gratification, since you can use it now. I have to wait about 2000 hours until my lamp burns out to use my free replacement :-)

To me it was a no brainer. I elected the free lamp!


The only option on the card is for the bluray player, plus I dont want to keep on using my ps3 as a player. ( For some strange reason when I played a few movie on the player I notice the sound was alot louder compare to the ps3)
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It should be inside the box, well mine was anyway. Double check the box, CND/US should be the same except the US model you can opt for Lamp instead.
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no free lamp card in my US HW10. No free US lamp info anywhere on line either, just UK.

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Could be the warranty card is only in Canadian boxes?

I also have one...

Nope. Was in my box when I opened it.
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my mistake then, so only uk customers gets to choose between bd or lamp.
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my mistake then, so only uk customers gets to choose between bd or lamp.

Actually Ireland and UK. They will only ship the free lamp of BluRay player to a Euopean address. Just have your friend in the UK forward it to you That's what I did. It was well worth the shipping Plus the projector is less than 2K USD over there.

http://homecinema.sonypromotion.com/terms.aspx

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Are you saying a US buyer could send in for a free lamp so long as it's delivered to a UK address?

Doesn't the invoice and serial number also have to be from a UK seller & projector?

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Are you saying a US buyer could send in for a free lamp so long as it's delivered to a UK address?

Doesn't the invoice and serial number also have to be from a UK seller & projector?

Yes and Yes.

Got my projector sent from the UK and free lamp from Ireland by way of UK. It was very easy. It is the exact projector that is sold in the US. The only difference is that it comes with a different extension cord (you probably have a bunch of them lying around the house), longer warranty (3 years), and free lamp or Blu Ray player.
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The only option on the card is for the bluray player, plus I dont want to keep on using my ps3 as a player. ( For some strange reason when I played a few movie on the player I notice the sound was alot louder compare to the ps3)

Regarding your PS3 sound issue, have you tried changing the Video Settings -> BD/DVD Dynamic Range Control to Auto or On?
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It should be inside the box, well mine was anyway. Double check the box, CND/US should be the same except the US model you can opt for Lamp instead.

I triple-checked and I have no card. The only stuff I have is the manual and the warranty page, nothing else.
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What is the native non-iris ON/OFF contrast ratio for this puppy?

How is the de-interlacing/processing?

Is the HW10 sharper than the Epson 1080 UB?
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I triple-checked and I have no card. The only stuff I have is the manual and the warranty page, nothing else.

Silviu you would need to get the online coupon then, should be on the Sony website, just print it off and mail it in with your receipt.


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Regarding your PS3 sound issue, have you tried changing the Video Settings -> BD/DVD Dynamic Range Control to Auto or On?

It was set on auto, I tried On/Off/Auto the on/auto was slightly louder then Off.

I tried with dvd (lord of the ring two tower) and bd (Transformer) on the ps3 I set my Onkyo 875 decibel to -4 On the Sony S350 I had to turn it down to -11 decibel
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What is the native non-iris ON/OFF contrast ratio for this puppy?

How is the de-interlacing/processing?

Is the HW10 sharper than the Epson 1080 UB?

I measured between 6k:1 and almost 9k:1 depending on the color temp. This was with an older OpticONE probe. I have yet to remeasure with a better probe.

Don't use the deinterlacing.

Although I didn't see the 1080UB and HW10 side by side, I thought the HW10 was sharper without the excess SDE as you moved closer to the screen. I did see the 1080UB near a RS1, and the JVC's pixel hiding structure was more apparent in that you could walk right up to the screen before you could see the pixel structure.

The HW10 strikes me as a happy balance, so that you could run a larger screen size without risk of seeing the pixel grid.

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Don't use the deinterlacing.

I have to disagree here. I tested deinterlacing with HQV test disc (HD DVD). Deinterlacing and cadence detection were almost as good as Reon on my HD-XE1. That is HW10 passed all tests with full marks. Only thing that I noticed was that it takes a tad longer for HW10 to detect correct mode (video/film) than with Reon. I am not an expert and an expert might notice further differences but they would be minor.
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He probably meant that you usually dont need deinterlacing. For example i will be using projector only with 1080p from ps3 and istar hd for my media playback.
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Exactly. I meant to say I don't use the deinterlacing, I let the Edge do all the heavy lifting.

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Silviu you would need to get the online coupon then, should be on the Sony website, just print it off and mail it in with your receipt.




It was set on auto, I tried On/Off/Auto the on/auto was slightly louder then Off.

I tried with dvd (lord of the ring two tower) and bd (Transformer) on the ps3 I set my Onkyo 875 decibel to -4 On the Sony S350 I had to turn it down to -11 decibel

I also did not receive a coupon for player or bulb. I was unable to find the coupon on sony.com. Does the US HW10 for sure offer this?
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That's a good native non-iris for a lcos/lcd projector. At least it's significantly higher than the 1080UB I used last, and also has much higher ANSI contrast too.

Here are my thoughts for this projector:

1) The 1.6 zoom lens is potentially a serious problem for me in using my anamorphic lens. Although I can put the projector closer to the screen, if the zoom is only 1.6, the light beam may be too big for my Prismasonic H1000...or, big enough that it causes distortion. (Using the projector central calculator, is the throw distance measured as the distance from the screen surface from the lens?) Although using projector central calc they have 1.5 spec'd for the zoom when I believe it's 1.6. Actually realized my Hitachi TX200 had a 1.6 zoom also, but...the room I used back then was 14 feet 3 inches long and now I have a 17 foot long room. Back wall shelf mount may no longer be an option for the screen size I will be working with (98-101" diagonal 16:9).

2) Sharpness. I am hoping for sharpness that beats the Epson 1080 and 1080UB that I had used briefly. Not fuzzy/blury projectors, but softer than my olde Hitachi TX200.

3) Black levels. I'm hoping the black level is better than the Epson 1080UB. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound as though it's as low as the RS1, but I liked the Epson 1080UB...so if it's lower than that, I may be happy.

I forgot that de-interlacing isn't important to me since I need a VP for the stretch for use with my prismasonic lens.
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I also did not receive a coupon for player or bulb. I was unable to find the coupon on sony.com. Does the US HW10 for sure offer this?

No. The deal is for UK/Ireland only. I have not seen a US HW10 offer of any kind.

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If I could get a 40 for 60% of what I could get the 10 for, is the 40 an ok value? Or is it's inferior sharpness and uniformity enough to make a person hold out for the 10?
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Are you interested i saving $$$ to buy a projector just to hold you over? If not and you might keep the projector for awhile, I'd recommend going for the HW10.

If you can wait until after the new year, I'm sure we will see the price on the HW10 begin to fall.

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1) The 1.6 zoom lens is potentially a serious problem for me in using my anamorphic lens. Although I can put the projector closer to the screen, if the zoom is only 1.6, the light beam may be too big for my Prismasonic H1000...or, big enough that it causes distortion. (Using the projector central calculator, is the throw distance measured as the distance from the screen surface from the lens?) Although using projector central calc they have 1.5 spec'd for the zoom when I believe it's 1.6. Actually realized my Hitachi TX200 had a 1.6 zoom also, but...the room I used back then was 14 feet 3 inches long and now I have a 17 foot long room. Back wall shelf mount may no longer be an option for the screen size I will be working with (98-101" diagonal 16:9).

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The throws are in the manual. 100" screen max throw is about 15.5'. For 17' throw, you would need about a 115" screen. Or, a manual or electric screen could be mounted out from the wall a bit as I plan to do.
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Shawn at Panamorph recommends the UH380/480 for the HW10. I'm not sure how much bigger those panamorph lenses are than the H1000. You may be able to squeak by using the H1000 with the HW10 on min zoom mode.

Is the H1000 a vertical compression or horizontal expansion? I believe the UH380/480 being horizontal expansion help also contribute to helping the lenses work on shorter throw projectors.

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Got my projector sent from the UK and free lamp from Ireland by way of UK. It was very easy. It is the exact projector that is sold in the US. The only difference is that it comes with a different extension cord (you probably have a bunch of them lying around the house), longer warranty (3 years), and free lamp or Blu Ray player.

I need clarification on this: Did you order your HW10 directly from a UK shop? Or was it ordered by a UK resident who then sent you the unit?

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The throws are in the manual. 100" screen max throw is about 15.5'. For 17' throw, you would need about a 115" screen. Or, a manual or electric screen could be mounted out from the wall a bit as I plan to do.

Doh. I forgot about the room size and the projector size. The room is 17 feet and 1" long = 205 inches - the 18.25" depth of the Sony HW10 = 15.5625. I should be ok give or take a few inches in projector throw/placement or screen size, although I'm restricted in screen size and want to keep it around 100" diag 1.78 size (although the screen will be 2.37:1).

I think wide is ok for me because I prefer higher contrast over brightness. I'm used to a blackout material screen which has a gain of 0.8 to 1.1 so I could always go with a screen with a gain of 1.4 to 2.0 if absolutely necessary. I will be playing with blackout material for a while before nailing down projector placement and screen size for sure.

So for a 2.37:1 screen with a ~ 100" diagonal size for the 16:9 (a height of 49") I should be pretty nearly perfect as long as being at the widest of the lens is ok.

BTW .. does anybody know how the Sony BDP-S350 Blu-Ray player compares to the Panasonic BD35 or BD55? Does the BDP-S350 decode and pass DTS-HD MA full via PCM 7.1 over HDMI?

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