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post #361 of 424 Old 04-18-2010, 07:16 PM
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Has anyone tested the LG CF181D?? I wonder if the Lcos tech is just faster....

PS: HDMI only as I will be using it for games.
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Any new tests on the Epson 8500? Maybe some rockband 2 tests to atleast?

Still on the hunt for the right projector =/

50% movies/40% gaming/10% TV
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Looking for something that can provide minimal input lag. As it will be used for Gaming. Anyone know anything I could get? For around UNDER 3G?
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Any new tests on the Epson 8500? Maybe some rockband 2 tests to atleast?

Still on the hunt for the right projector =/

50% movies/40% gaming/10% TV

I get 79ms video delay with the 8500 and Rock Band 2, but that's running through my Onkyo TX-NR1007. I do have the 1007 set to gaming mode, through resolution to minimize any in-AVR processing, but with the 120ms detected HDMI lipsync for the 8500 (compared to 38ms for my previous projector - the Sanyo PLV-Z2000), I have to use 254ms audio delay and 79ms video delay in Rock Band 2 to make it perfectly playable. I have all frame interpolation, super res, etc. disabled. With HDMI lipsync disabled, RB2 detects 134ms of audio delay induced by my Onkyo, even in Direct mode.

That said, I don't notice it in my other games, even with online play... and the 8500 is so beautiful with movies that I can live with the input lag for gaming.

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Any other Epson 8500UB owners care to chime in on input lag results. So far I have seen one poster say there getting around 45ms while another says around 75ms. I am particularly interested in users that are running the HDMI or Component cable directly from the console to the projector with all of the enhanced image processing options off or at a minimum.

I really want to pull the trigger on this projector but am hesitant due to the fact that I will use it 50% of the time for gaming and am very picky when it comes to input lag. Like a previous poster said when I press the button for mega man to jump he darn well better jump instantaneously. My current Sony Triton CRT has spoiled me greatly in this regard. I have recently played on a few plasmas at friends houses and have noticed varying degrees of input lag, from barely noticeable (Samsung B650 model) to absolutely horrible (Dynex plasma I think). I'm afraid I will run into the same issue with a digital projector.

Anyway any results, thoughts, or suggestions will be much appreciated.

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Don't notice any lag on my viewsonic pro8100

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79ms seems like a lot for the 8500UB. Other people tested it much lower last year.

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...or last years Epson 6100

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Some DLP models are very fast as well, especially the IN83.
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This is for the 8500UB, picture is not very good but best I could get from my camera. The LCD TV is HDMI to DVI and the Projection is DVI-HDMI over a 50FT HDMI cable.

I tested response time on mouse and games, as far as I can tell its instant and I am coming off a DLP. Overall, very happy.
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This is for the 8500UB, picture is not very good but best I could get from my camera. The LCD TV is HDMI to DVI and the Projection is DVI-HDMI over a 50FT HDMI cable.

I tested response time on mouse and games, as far as I can tell its instant and I am coming off a DLP. Overall, very happy.


Is the input lag of the LCD TV known?
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Am I understanding that the epson 8100 is better for gaming than the 8500 because it has less video processing?

Also does anyone have numbers on the hc3800, good bad for gaming?
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Am I understanding that the epson 8100 is better for gaming than the 8500 because it has less video processing?

Also does anyone have numbers on the hc3800, good bad for gaming?

From the HC3800 thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17618464

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post18705551

These two posts with actual numbers don't agree with each other.
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Anyone with any input on the BenQ W6000? I've been thinking of purchasing for September. It will be used for 75% gaming and 25% bluray.
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Has anyone tested the LG CF181D?? I wonder if the Lcos tech is just faster....

PS: HDMI only as I will be using it for games.

I'm curious about this projector as well. I may be buying soon.
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Im also wondering what the input lag for the Benq w6000 is, Has anyone tested this yet?

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What about all the new 3d projectors, will they drastically improve input lag?
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hello, i have a question about the infocus sp8602.
Have someone tested the input lag of this projector? ( maybe the same low-lag as the in83?)
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Did anyone compile a comprehensive list into one place?

Vizio VP322 Plasma / Vizio GV42LF LCD / Denon 2200 Silicon Image DVD / Panasonic S97 Faroudja Genesis DVD / Oppo 970HD Mediatek DVD / Oppo 983H Anchor Bay DVD / Panasonic LX-600 Laserdisc / Aiwa MX100 Multi-region VCR / JVC S7600 S-VHS / PS2 / Sega Genesis / Nintendo SNES / Roku 2 XS & HD-XR / Realistic STA-90 Reciever / Realistic Minimus 7 / Antennacraft G1483 Hoverman / Belden 7915A RG6 / Channel Master 7777 Titan 2 UHF/VHF / Panasonic AX-200u / Optoma Graywolf 92" / Draper Luma 92"
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Didnt realize both threads were in the same forum area...
I posted this in the other thread, but i'll repost here:

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I wish I found this thread Before I purchased the JVc X3(rs40)

I have called JVC to see if this could be fixed by bypassing some of the chips that create the input lag, but so far they are looking in to it and will get back to me.

But I have done several test on my X3, and they are all consistent. avg 100ms delay.

My Main notice of this was playing on my PS3 NHL 11. I felt that everything I did was always to late and got frustrated with the game. When I finally played it on my Sony SXRD rear projection TV, the game play was so smooth and I did not notice any lag. When I hit the pass button it happened, and shots and so on.

Then I found this Thread.(Thanks AVS) and started to do some testing.

The Game Plays at 720p60(most games do at this time)

JVC wanted me to get a HDMI booster at first, Which did not think was the case. So the Testing began.

720p60 testing on X3
through My Receiver, with all video processing off and 25ft cable = 100ms delay

through My Receiver, with all video processing off and 25ft cable HDMI Lipsync off = 100ms delay.

Bypassed my Receiver 25ft cable direct connection = 100ms delay.

So here was the real test.

6ft cable direct connection = 100ms Delay

all done through Dell laptop with pictures
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Can someone recommend me a projector for 100% gaming.

I want the lowest input lag possible.

It can't be DLP the rainbow effect really bothers me.

I would like something $1500 and under as I will be buying 3 for eyefinity gaming.

Thanks!
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Can someone recommend me a projector for 100% gaming.

I want the lowest input lag possible.

It can't be DLP the rainbow effect really bothers me.

I would like something $1500 and under as I will be buying 3 for eyefinity gaming.

Thanks!
The input lag on the 2011 JVCs is the main reason i didn't get one. like stated above, measures at 100 ms.

The sony VW90 apparently measures at 16ms (i think that was the number, it was in this thread). Perhaps the lower end sony HW20/PRO1 and HW30 should have decent lag too?
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Coming from a mostly lag-free Epson 1080 to a 80ms lag JVC RS40, I find games to be pratically unplayable. Even using the mouse on the HTPC feels delayed. Not entirely a deal-breaker since I mostly play keyboard&mouse games on the PC, but I didn't expect that.

So my question: do we have any idea what parts of the JVC processing is likely causing this lag? I understand it might not be inherent to the D-ILA tech. The color management, the video or upscaling (!) processor, something else?

I'm not expecting JVC to issue a fix since it's not part of the marketing specs, but I am just curious.
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My issue with jvc is for the cost of this machine there shpuld be no lag issues whats so ever or allow us to turn off the extra proccessing
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It's a very real but one that is likely to only get worse. It is almost like to get a lag free set up you have to go with cheap, lower tech displays because every new feature just adds further to the lag. 120+ fps, advanced scaling and processing, etc. So I would tell the last poster to get an older 720p DLP like the Optoma H78/79 if he can track one down cheap on the used market, but apparently rainbows ruin that.
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Yeah I think your right the higher end models are just going to add to the lag. As much as I want to avoid DLP I think the HD66 or GT7000 or GT720 may be the way to go.
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I agree to disagree, There should be a way to minimize input lag on all projectors by disabling any video processing. A lot of systems come with game mode.
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I agree to disagree, There should be a way to minimize input lag on all projectors by disabling any video processing. A lot of systems come with game mode.
I will say that game mode on my Samsung LCD TV is still 2-3x laggier than my 720DLP projector was in native mode.

My Vango is quite a bit laggier than the Optoma was, in the 40-50ms range using Rock Band's tests. The Optoma was around 17ms.
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I came across this tonight on http://www.hdfury.com/ "HDfury modules (HDfury1, Gamer, HDfury2 & HDfury3) are used worldwide by hardcore gamers to get rid of display's Lags".

Could something like this really reduce the lag of a display?
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I read the hole thread and I cannot find the responce times of the projectors I want to buy the Benq w6000 or the epson tw3200 (8350 in us).

Anyone that has numbers on those?

The panasonic ae4000 which seems like a perfect choise is way too expencive for me.

To contribute to this thread my acers H5360 responce time is measured through the link by taking a picture at 30ms, excellent.
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