Official epson 6500ub owners thread - Page 6 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #151 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 07:01 AM
Member
 
urbeenjammin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 150
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
as pointed out before,if you feed your 6500UB a 1080i signal,there is no problem with FI turned on along with the 4: 4 pull down engaged...
urbeenjammin is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #152 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 09:26 AM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by conan48 View Post

how bout when they are playing cards at the table and the camera pans around everyone at the table. I heard this scene brings out the worst from FI glitches.

Bingo! That is where it becomes obvious to compare with and without different 4:4 and FI modes. I am just looking at the first dealing scene now and if you especially keep you eyes on the white shirts and cuffs under the tux jackets it becomes very obvious. Thanks for leading me to this location. It is much more obvious than anything I tried to discover in Black Knight (obviously, my eyes are not as good as Art's)

I am going to play with this some more today...see what I think of all of it.
davedelite is offline  
post #153 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 09:37 AM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbeenjammin View Post

as pointed out before,if you feed your 6500UB a 1080i signal,there is no problem with FI turned on along with the 4: 4 pull down engaged...

What I have observed is that you can engage creative FI or 4:4 with 24p source, though, if you have 4:4 engaged it deactivates creative FI and basicly becomes the means of interpolation itself and grays out the creative FI menu item (and, from my testing it does not seem to make a difference if you were in one mode previously for creative FI or another before it got grayed out by engaging 4:4) Hence, no ability to BOTH creative FI and 4:4 with 24p

If 24p is off for 1080p content, you can not do 4:4...only creative FI (you can test this by turning off 24p support in the BR player)

If the source is 1080i (my satellite box) your choices are just like the 24p from 1080p signal.
davedelite is offline  
post #154 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 09:45 AM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
For any who thought "uh-oh" when reading my original post #31 regarding the observed convergence and dead pixel issues on my 6500 UB, I suggest you notice that I have since edited the original post that was done soon after getting the pj set up, but before spending a lot more time with it and getting a chance to calibrate myself on the convergence issue as well. Bottom line, I don't consider myself to have a convergence issue at all at this point. I do feel I have identified 3 dead or stuck pixels on blue that I will be calling Epson about on Monday.
davedelite is offline  
post #155 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 12:14 PM
Member
 
mpauline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: St.Albert, Alberta
Posts: 160
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by davedelite View Post

Can you tell me if there are any exact locations on Casino Royale will you see this as well. Maybe its credit sequence?

I could not see what Art was talking about on my BD35 and 6500 UB in Dark Knight.....but, on Casino Royale last night I was playing a little bit with the scene where Bond is walking into the first card match....along the green landscaped outdoors and into the building down the hallway where he passes the lady in red......these two cuts have a lot of foreground and background motion.. here, I definitely noticed different picture behavior with 4:4 on, or FI on, etc. But, have not determined if there is anything "wrong" yet or if the behavior is as expected with FI on. I am going to look more at this today.

But, it would be helpful if there as a specific point that others are detecting "jerkiness". A credit sequence would be a very obvious and extended area to see it. So, if anyone sees it in a specific location in Casino Royale (or the credit sequence there) please report that.

The worst scenes that I noticed is the chase scene following the cobra and mongoose fight.
mpauline is offline  
post #156 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 01:44 PM
Member
 
urbeenjammin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 150
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:


The worst scenes that I noticed is the chase scene following the cobra and mongoose fight

.
if you feed a 1080i signal to your PJ, having the same settings,you won't see any of those artifacts
urbeenjammin is offline  
post #157 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 02:04 PM
Member
 
mpauline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: St.Albert, Alberta
Posts: 160
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbeenjammin View Post

.
if you feed a 1080i signal to your PJ, having the same settings,you won't see any of those artifacts

But I thought that a 1080i source will not give as detailed an image as a 1080p source so why switch?
mpauline is offline  
post #158 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 02:09 PM
Member
 
bachusTheOld's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 152
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpauline View Post

But I thought that a 1080i source will not give as detailed an image as a 1080p source so why switch?

I thought a 1080i display would not look as good as a 1080p display but a 1080p display would take 1080i source, de-interlace it and display it at 1080p and look every bit as good as 1080p source.

blu-ray Operas: 6
blu-ray Ballets : 1
There's a reason they're called the fine arts--buy them on blu-ray.
bachusTheOld is offline  
post #159 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 02:18 PM
Advanced Member
 
Ethenolas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 638
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The difference between 1080i and 1080p is apparent. There is a sharpness and depth you get with 1080p which is not there with 1080i.

Compare the US Planet Earth with BBC Planet Earth.

Most of the same footage.

US 1080i

BBC 1080p

I have both...It's not just me, my friends say they can notice a difference too.
Ethenolas is offline  
post #160 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 05:48 PM
Advanced Member
 
FreddyW's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA.
Posts: 527
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by crackyflipside View Post

I got it from the same vendor but it showed up in an Epson box. I would say that the packaging was pretty wimpy for such a pricey item; thin folded cardboard. I expected those styrofoam sides like PS3's and 360's have in their boxes. Don't think its a huge issue but it takes one sloppy delivery handler to ruin a projector.

I design and fabricate protective packaging. Epson, and every other electronics manufacturer, should hire us.

;}
FreddyW is offline  
post #161 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Senior Member
 
Aceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 327
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
If i put FI to normal & 4.4 on, i get jerkiness, that's w/ a 1080i feed from Dish. The jerkiness is accross varying content, from NFL to film.

let me know your thoughts - i'm curious how we can have observations which conflict so greatly.

Aceman
Aceman is offline  
post #162 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 07:17 PM
Newbie
 
ABCarr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
What ceiling mounts are folks using/recommending for the 6500ub? I'll need something with an extension tube to drop the projector down by several inches.
ABCarr is offline  
post #163 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 07:29 PM
Member
 
urbeenjammin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 150
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:


If i put FI to normal & 4.4 on, i get jerkiness, that's w/ a 1080i feed from Dish. The jerkiness is accross varying content, from NFL to film.

i was talikng about a 1080i from a Blu ray player...
are you feeding your dish network to an AV receiver then to your PJ? if you go to your INFO menu on your 7500ub,does it say that you're receiving a 1080i signal?
also as far as 1080i vs 1080p,if your projector is able to properly de-interlace 1080i,there should be no difference.you can google this comparison.there's plenty of info backing this theory up.
urbeenjammin is offline  
post #164 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 07:36 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Deja Vu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: great white north
Posts: 4,277
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Liked: 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpauline View Post

But I thought that a 1080i source will not give as detailed an image as a 1080p source so why switch?

Why the difference in detail since they both have exactly the same resolution? How the encoding is done on a particular disc may make a difference. Feeding your display 1080i or 1080p (BD disc) shouldn't make a visible difference unless there's a difference in the quality of the deinterlacing and the Reon in the 6500 should be about as good as it gets.
Deja Vu is online now  
post #165 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 07:44 PM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbeenjammin View Post

i was talikng about a 1080i from a Blu ray player...
are you feeding your dish network to an AV receiver then to your PJ? if you go to your INFO menu on your 7500ub,does it say that you're receiving a 1080i signal?
also as far as 1080i vs 1080p,if your projector is able to properly de-interlace 1080i,there should be no difference.you can google this comparison.there's plenty of info backing this theory up.

For 1080i from a STB (and I specifically have Dish) turn off 4:4 and do whatever you prefer for FI...but I have chosen to leave FI off as well. It will play smoothly then. If you wish to enable some FI to try, fine, go ahead....but don't touch 4:4 at all with this source.

Bottom line, don't even think of engaging 4:4 unless your source is a 24p signal from Blu-Ray

For a BR player, I found no difference in smoothness of processed image whether it was 1080i or 1080p before the asundry of options were engaged or disengaged...meaning the different FI modes all looked about the same to me on same content and trial when I set up 1080i or 1080p (no 24p in either at this point) on the BR player...
davedelite is offline  
post #166 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 08:07 PM
Member
 
urbeenjammin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 150
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:


Bottom line, don't even think of engaging 4:4 unless your source is a 24p signal from Blu-Ray

i have my PS3 set to output 1080i and have 4:4 pulldown engaged and plays flawlessly on the 6500ub receiving a 60hz signal from a blu ray disc(Casino Royale)

BTW,talk about lossless audio in the hi def format,if there was ever a lossless video...that's what it sure feels like when viewing with the 6500ub
urbeenjammin is offline  
post #167 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 08:41 PM
Newbie
 
twotracker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
What do you like or dislike about your purchase of your new 6500ub? The feelings you get when you fire the projector up. Would you buy it again? Rate it on your own scale. I am looking to purchase soon and intend to build a room around it. Thanks in advance for your time.
twotracker is offline  
post #168 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 11:29 PM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbeenjammin View Post

i have my PS3 set to output 1080i and have 4:4 pulldown engaged and plays flawlessly on the 6500ub receiving a 60hz signal from a blu ray disc(Casino Royale)

BTW,talk about lossless audio in the hi def format,if there was ever a lossless video...that's what it sure feels like when viewing with the 6500ub

Are you using 24p output with your 1080i output? Or, are you doing 1080i/60?

Also, I have now come around to getting the same results as Art by using 1080p output with a Panasonic BD35k...so, it was unnecessary for me to seek out 1080i to duplicate his findings. Hence, I bet he is using 1080p out from his PS3. By same results, I mean to say I have observed the jerkiness sometimes when using FI on 1080p 24p, but that is solved when going to 1080p and removing the 24p output selection from the BR player. I have NOT observed the jerkiness with 24p and using 4:4, only when 4:4 is turned off and I replace it with some type of FI.
davedelite is offline  
post #169 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 11:47 PM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Also, if anyone has configured a Harmony remote correctly to be able to "turn off" this projector given it requires two consecutive presses of the power toggle to turn it off, please PM me as I would like to know how you got this to work. I would just like to handle it via PM so we don't get this thread off track.

Thanks
davedelite is offline  
post #170 of 4382 Old 12-28-2008, 11:58 PM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
After another day of viewing/testing, I have now found some perfect content whereby the creative FI is very helpful for....the 1080p BBC version of Planet Earth. Looked much better running in "low" or even the "normal" or "higher" modes of FI with 4:4 turned off since I was in the non 24p mode at the player level to mitigate the other artifacts that Art has reported. (I used "Low" the most because it was enough to solve the motion inconsistency experienced in panning shots that I reviewed)

So, in sum, my current rule of thumb for player and PJ settings after many hours of side by side trial and review in the different modes:

For movie content in 1080p blu-ray where there is a director's artistic influence, I like to output 24p from the player and run the PJ with creative FI off, and 4:4 enabled. I came to this conclusion because 4:4 seemed to certainly improve on nothing enabled at all between 4:4 and creative FI...as noticed in credits scrolling, but there were no artifacts or "issues" related to 4:4 for me on 24p.

For sports or broadcast TV I just leave the PJ set up for 4:4 off and creative FI off. I have not noticed any benefit too date in the sports I have watched thus far.

For scenic panning type content off of Blu-ray ... in this case Planet Earth, I set player to NOT support 24p as Art concluded, then run pj with 4:4 off, but with creative FI on.
davedelite is offline  
post #171 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 12:16 AM
AVS Special Member
 
johnsmith808's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,818
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 30
I notice the great majority of you 6500ub owners are talking about the issues with frame interpolation. Does that mean that you are not that impressed with the picture this thing is putting out? It seems like the problems with this pj are overshadowing the picture quality.
johnsmith808 is offline  
post #172 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 02:31 AM
AVS Special Member
 
CADOBHuK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,523
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Holy crap,
The review at pjreviews is up.
______________

With a review like that,
It will sell
Quite well,
Is my bet.
CADOBHuK is offline  
post #173 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 03:17 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
rwestley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,583
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Liked: 60
Johnsmith808. While there are issues with frame interpolation this does not mean that this is not a great projector. Many of us will never use the feature and the results without it seem to be great. See Art's review on projector reviews which has just been posted. Frame interpolation is a new feature that is just on a few projectors and seems to need some more work. The problem is that with the Epson it seems to produce other issues. I have one on order and I just plan to turn it off at this time. When and if Epson fixes it with a firmware update I will try it. It is just not that big of a deal for me.
rwestley is online now  
post #174 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 04:12 AM
AVS Special Member
 
CADOBHuK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,523
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Does anyone know what the ANSI contrast of the Epson 6500ub is?
CADOBHuK is offline  
post #175 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 05:44 AM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I agree on the perspective rwestley shared on FI. It is likely a very small issue to consider (if one at all) in selecting a projector as this is a new feature of image processing / display biasing that was not existent in previous generations of projectors. I think it is trying to do "a lot" and therefore you have side effects at times also. But, that side effect included, I think there are times that you might think it is better to be used anyway. The amount of airtime you are seeing on it here is because it is a new feature and has interesting effects that people are exploring and learning from....and no more should be taken from it than that. But, the more time, experience, and documentation that forum members put into this, the more specific use cases of benefit people will have. In this pj, there are really 2 things we are talking about. 1) Straight 4:4 pulldown and (2) Epson's implementation of creative FI. As for the 4:4, I think it is a benefit in all 24p incoming sources and I have not detected any side effects. The easiest way to see what it does and how much it is does in my opinion is to look at the credit scroll of a BR movie (I used Casino Royale) and toggle it on and off with a 24p source. It helps the image in my mind without completely changing the character of the image to a video appearance....hence, leaving the 24p film like effect that we presume the director worked within the bounds of awareness of when he implemented his creative talents. Now, on FI....completely different issue. I have decided that until t he algorithms change, I see little benefit of it relative to some tradeoffs for much content. However, its ability to help out in something like Planet Earth is unmistakeble on close, large screen pans of mountains or rock shale surfaces, etc. I just needed to put it on Low or Normal and a much better experience and I noticed no side effect if the BR players was taken out of 24p mode as Art experienced. However, for a movie where there was foreground movement on top of background panning, like in Casino Royale's initial card dealing scene when they pan the table and also when the Bond girl enters the play area and, specifically when she walks to the bar, you will see major effects, but some tradeoffs. First, the creative FI in low on a non 24p signal had about the same impact as 4:4 pulldown on a 24p in my testing in so far as reducing the stutter (my naive term) on the sideways pan (look at Bond's white shirt and focus on that). But, when I turned it up to "Normal" it had even a more effect, completely removing any stutter in that same scene....but that now causes the image to look more video like in many's eyes (Funny aside, my wife had Sound of Music on last night and they use those old style flat backgrounds of landscapes that they fake drive against...etc. It was in my eyes very "video like" HA HA HA). Anyway, the problem wit this last example, however, is that while the "Normal" mode has a greater impact at taking out all side to side stutter (really caused by the director's panning techniques) it then creates a nasty wave effect around the image of the actors body when they are moving against a panned background. This, in fact, is the worst side effect I have noticed. Watch the Bond Girl walk into the bar area when you are in FI "normal" and could be thinking you are benefitting from the just seen table scene. You see a wave like ripple coming off of her head as she moves. Yuk! To me, that was an indication that I or Epson was trying to do Too much.....hence, I decided that I should just use 4:4 on 24p for such type content....and in the end, it is an improvement over anything else I have seen too date.

At the end of the day, it is like I tell my wife. You can have anything you like, but you can't have everything you like. (well, not exactly, but you get the point! Ha Ha). I, for one, am not even convinced there is anything "wrong" with Epson's FI implementation in that there are just different effects and tradeoffs and they have left them in there for people to tinker with and explore what they like best, I presume.

I LOVE this projector....I think it rocks. (of course, other than the 3 dead or stuck pixels I am calling Epson about in 20 minutes)...
davedelite is offline  
post #176 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 05:57 AM
Senior Member
 
davedelite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Reading Art's review, the only place I would debate his summation on this is that I have not yet seen a problem with "jerkiness" when using 4:4 on 24p........but, it is likely an impact of my "consumer" eye :-)

Also, if there is "jerkiness" going on in sports I doubt one would ever see it anyway because sports camera action by its nature is so jerky, fluid, and everchanging it would likely not allow much to surface into observance....
davedelite is offline  
post #177 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 06:07 AM
Member
 
bachusTheOld's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 152
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by CADOBHuK View Post

...With a review like that,
It will sell...

I was left very disapointed that it can't even do 24fps 4:4 right Creative Interpolaion aside. Hopefully operas are shot direct to digital. I need to decide this morning on either the 6500UB or the AE3000. I'm still planning to go with the 6500--but I'm wavering--this is very tough.

blu-ray Operas: 6
blu-ray Ballets : 1
There's a reason they're called the fine arts--buy them on blu-ray.
bachusTheOld is offline  
post #178 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 06:10 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
rwestley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,583
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Liked: 60
Davedlite, thanks for your great review and summary of the frame interpolation feature.
Good luck with getting your unit with the 3 dead or stuck pixels replaced.
rwestley is online now  
post #179 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 06:15 AM
Member
 
bachusTheOld's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 152
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Yes thanks David, our posts crossed so I read yours after posting mine. I feel better about the 6500UB and 4:4.

blu-ray Operas: 6
blu-ray Ballets : 1
There's a reason they're called the fine arts--buy them on blu-ray.
bachusTheOld is offline  
post #180 of 4382 Old 12-29-2008, 06:32 AM
AVS Special Member
 
shinksma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wandering the intertubes, on the way to damnation
Posts: 2,825
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by bachusTheOld View Post

I was left very disapointed that it can't even do 24fps 4:4 right Creative Interpolaion aside. Hopefully operas are shot direct to digital. I need to decide this morning on either the 6500UB or the AE3000. I'm still planning to go with the 6500--but I'm wavering--this is very tough.

After reading Art's new review, I am still trying to figure out the difference from 24fps with 4:4 off and 24fps with 4:4 on but Creative Interpolation off.

One would think it would be one of these two options: Does the 6500UB really only display "raw 24 fps" at 24hz with 4:4 off, or is it displaying at a more traditional 2:2 (i.e. frame doubling to 48Hz), and the 4:4 mode is doubling that again to 96Hz?

But reading the owner's manual online made me think that when 4:4 is off, the projector takes a 24fps source and displays it at 60hz using 2:3 pulldown. With 4:4 on, it displays 24fps at 96hz using frame copies. Which seems weird - why would I ever want to display 24fps at 60Hz?

Any thoughts? This issue concerns me enough to worry that if the 6500UB can't display 24fps at some fixed 2:2 or 4:4 frame doubling manner without significant artifacts, I will wait until it gets fixed or look elsewhere.

IMHO, AFAIK,

shinksma

My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my captors.
shinksma is offline  
Reply Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP

Tags
Lamp Powerlite Hc 6100 Hc6500ub
Gear in this thread

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off