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post #181 of 1055 Old 01-22-2009, 05:47 AM
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Chris, have you seen the Marantz VP-15S1?

If you did, How do you compare the 8200 with the Marantz?

No, but I've had the oportunity to see the 11S2 just shortly before I went to CES and going by memory here the Optoma stood out much more on a much larger screen. Awesome depth to the image was the first thing that stood out plus its brightness was stellar. Great sharpness as well although I couldn't tell if it was as sharp as the 11S2 but it sure seemed so. I'm sure Guitarman will give you all an in depth review real soon, I went by memory.

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Is there a manual iris on the Optoma, in addition to the DI? I really like that feature on my W5000, to improve the black level since I don't need all the available brightness.

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No, but I've had the oportunity to see the 11S2 just shortly before I went to CES and going by memory here the Optoma stood out much more on a much larger screen. Awesome depth to the image was the first thing that stood out plus its brightness was stellar. Great sharpness as well although I couldn't tell if it was as sharp as the 11S2 but it sure seemed so. I'm sure Guitarman will give you all an in depth review real soon, I went by memory.

I have a 95" diag 16:9 screen 1.3 (alleged) gain.
I beleive the lesser brightness wouldn't be an issue with this screen size.
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Still no word on whether this will have a Color Management System?

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This sounds like a great projector. Has anyone gotten any further information yet? I know the 8200 was scheduled for end of January and we are almost there.
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If Optoma's past record of reliability is going to be taken into account, I'd really wait. I had units where lamps failed at 1000 hours and way past the 90 days with Optoma hiding behind the 90-day lamp warranty when they can.
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If lamps "only" lasting 1000 hrs is the worst problem with this machine, I'd be very happy with it.

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Still no word on whether this will have a Color Management System?


It will probably have Rec709 etc settings and grayscale should be excellent for each type of Rec. I'll check for sure next week with the Wing.

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If lamps "only" lasting 1000 hrs is the worst problem with this machine, I'd be very happy with it.

Yeah, seriously. On my last projector, I wound up swapping out the lamp after 700 hours anyway (rated for 2,500 or so). The image was unacceptably dim by that point.

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Does anyone have any info on what the "PureMotion" technology is? Is it something useful like dark frame insertion or is it just frame creation, or...?

-edit, looks like the Pixelworks coprocessor they're using does frame interpolation. It would be interesting if dark frame insertion were included too, and I hope there's a way to turn off interpolation.

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Does anyone have any info on what the "PureMotion" technology is? Is it something useful like dark frame insertion or is it just frame creation, or...?

-edit, looks like the Pixelworks coprocessor they're using does frame interpolation. It would be interesting if dark frame insertion were included too, and I hope there's a way to turn off interpolation.

From what I've read the Epson 6500UB uses Pixelworks technology for their frame interpolation and it isn't getting very good reviews (including compared to Panasonic's implementation). Epson may be pushing Pixelworks to improve it for them, which could help other manufacturers using it. But could take some time even if they can fix it.

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Yeah, I've got zero interest in frame interpolation.

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It will be like a CRT projector that's very sharp, deep blacks with high detail in blacks and with over 700ansi it will have a 3d image effect. Dark scene movies should look excellent. This was the only problem DLP's had, blacks were on the hazy side.

Dealers should have some soon. Not allot but more would be on the way. From the way it's been is a couple of hundred come in right away, then the mother load shows up.


I have the old H31 and have been waiting for YEARS for a better DLP black level.

I'd appreciate any info on the black level of the new Optima 8200 that you may give us. CRT close hopefully?

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It's not close to rs20 in blacks, and rs20 is still no crt. But I guess it has other strengths that seem to make it more impressive than rs20 to a few people.
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Is the Optoma HD8200 THX certified like the JVC RS20/750HD ?
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Is the Optoma HD8200 THX certified like the JVC RS20/750HD ?

No.
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That's a minus for optoma.
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lol...THX certification is a joke and means nothing. Anybody wanna buy a bridge?
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That's a minus for optoma.

Yeah, why? Look at how many excellent performing projectors manufacturers don't have the THX logo/certification not to mention speakers, amplifiers etc.,etc. Is that a minus for them as well?
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I'm not too big on THX certification myself. Especially after the years of watching NAD release an incredible amp one day and then release the SAME exact one with the THX logo for a few bills more. I now prefer to buy without the THX logo because I think it's frivolous to spend extra money for certification on something that is no different than without it. Anyone can designate and market a new standard to charge manufacturers for certification. Who's to say that Lucas is the final authority. I say user experience reports and my own eyes are the final authority, and that's all the certification I need - and it's free.
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For those that seen it, how far is it behind epson 6500ub in blacks? How would it compare to mitsubishi hc6000 in blacks?
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I would be afraid to form an opinion of how they compare until some real reviews come out where they are compared in a single environment. Shouldn't be much longer if you can wait.
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It's not close to rs20 in blacks, and rs20 is still no crt. But I guess it has other strengths that seem to make it more impressive than rs20 to a few people.


unfortunate. I can wait a few more years then. eventually we will get there I assume.
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If history is any guide, Optoma will be the first to the dance with these new dlp technologies and then later all the really pretty girls will show up and tell Optoma how to do it right.

If Optoma makes it look good, others will blow us away.

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If Optoma's past record of reliability is going to be taken into account, I'd really wait. I had units where lamps failed at 1000 hours and way past the 90 days with Optoma hiding behind the 90-day lamp warranty when they can.

Other than consuming bulbs at the rate of 46 cents per projector hour my H79 has worked flawlessly for 46 months and is on it's 4th bulb.
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46 cents per hour?? For me that is way too much, especially for how much it would get used. The Epson E-Torl lamps should be between 8 to 10 cents per hour. Dang, I was hoping the HD8200 would be it for me.
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I'll chime in with another positive Optoma experience since they get bashed a little around here. I've had my H77 for almost four years. I'm on my second bulb at about 750 hours. The first one lasted for about 1700 hours before it started to go... and that was with it running in high mode for the last 700 hours or so.

The projector has worked flawlessly so far for me. I would personally consider Optoma for my next upgrade.... and the 8200 could very well be it (if I still have a job later this year ).
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46 cents per hour?? For me that is way too much, especially for how much it would get used. The Epson E-Torl lamps should be between 8 to 10 cents per hour. Dang, I was hoping the HD8200 would be it for me.

Hopefully the new 8200 will have a better bulb life than the H79.

Heck, when my friends come over to watch movies, their wine consumption equals $ 20.00 / hour ( or more ) - never mind the bulb !!!

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I'll chime in with another positive Optoma experience since they get bashed a little around here. I've had my H77 for almost four years. I'm on my second bulb at about 750 hours. The first one lasted for about 1700 hours before it started to go... and that was with it running in high mode for the last 700 hours or so.

The projector has worked flawlessly so far for me. I would personally consider Optoma for my next upgrade.... and the 8200 could very well be it (if I still have a job later this year

My H79 worked fine too. And I have 2 friends with H31's that they've used for years now !!

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