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Sounds pretty impressive to me. Jason posted the most important specs for it in his CES thread, so you can all read them there, or google it. Uses a new and smaller DC3 chip from TI that allows for lens shift, both vertical and horizontal, in a normally priced lens system. Other vendors will probably follow optomas lead here.

Imo, better news from CES than i had even hoped for. Will be interesting to hear what people whos seen it thinks about the Optoma.
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Optoma has a pretty damaged PJ reputation. I am skeptical of their quality.
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It may take one or two generations of PJs to turn it around. Though this PJ does look like a good start...

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It would be definetly very interesting how it sounds...yes, sounds...I believe there are many good PJ., but on that is quiet like the Sonys in high-lamp-Mode with Pplight-POwer and Contrast...that is difficult.
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Granted, the Optoma brand has a ****** reputation, and im not sure i would wanna buy one. The new TI chip holds much promise alone, so if anything similar comes along from another maker, id probably chose that over this. Having said that, the spec and price of this one does sound so appealing, im betting this will be a top seller. I might give them a try this time.
Im really eager to hear peoples impressions of this one.
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Is this going to have a similar throw ratio to most of the current DLP's? Or will it have something more like the Marantz 15S1 or Planar short throw? Nice to see the lens shift option for sure. The HD80 I had was a nice punchy image, just an irritation to have to mount the screen so low. At least with this one that wouldn't be an issue.
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Oh and any word on Anamorphic stretch mode? I'm sure it will have it since they've had it on pretty much all of their latest units.
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How much is this pj? I am sure Optoma has worked themselves out of the mid/high market already. They still have a pretty good presence in the lower end market though.
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The HD80 (which I own) was purchased as a temporary projector when I dismounted my 9' CRT. That was well over a year ago and I as well as many others (see HD80Thread) have been very pleased. I originally purchased based on PQ and then was instantly sold when I was told the price. The only problem was it's lack of flexibilty in installion, which I made work by a tight ceiling mount and a manul tilt of the projector.
Oh and it's white...
This new projector boasts 20k contrast (double the HD80) more flexability and a very sharp looking case IMO. Now, will it be as good as the 3 chip Lumis. I suspect not, but it's 30k cheaper.


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How much is this pj? I am sure Optoma has worked themselves out of the mid/high market already. They still have a pretty good presence in the lower end market though.

Worked them self out in price only, their performance rivals many of the higher priced projectors. Which awesome for consumers, but probably not the ones that need the Cadilliac Crest.

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I am also a happy HD80 owner. From what I read here I just think most users will be gun shy to spend $5k (or whatever the street price will be) on another Optoma pj.
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I saw the optima at CES. The booth they had it in was fully light controlled and they had it running through an anamorphic lens. They were running Indiana Jones IV while I was there. The movie looked pretty impressive. Optima always seems to run these demo's with an anamorphic lens at the trade shows. They always display well. Most of us don't own a lens set up yet so I don't think its fair to compare it to other 1080P projectors without them. The images I saw were great. With the lens in place you could not see any screen door and the image was bright enough that the wedding seen at the end of Indy was nearly uncomfortably bright. I also got demo's from Epson, Panasonic and a ton of micro projector companies. If the Optima ends up retailing for under $2.6k it will be a great value compared to the other new projectors just released. The panasonic with its anamorphic stretch mode was great looking too. Just not razor sharp. The colors looked very natural on it. The Epson 6500UB looked sharper than the Panny, and had awsome blacks on the Harry Potter scenes they were using for the Demo. Neither projector had the POP of a DLP display. I can only describe them as "muted" somehow in the way they compare.
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I have had an HD80 since August 2007, and have had no problems whatsoever. I think the image is very nice, and will be looking at the HD8200.
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I believe most were (or still are) sore about the H77, H78, H79 and of course the 81 models...

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Is the HD8200 made by Optoma? I mean the naming has 4 digits instead of typical 2 digits (HDxx) like it was case with the HD7100.
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Yes they had to make a ground up larger platform for the Ti dynamic black. The LED's they're working on will be even larger because the LED technology as of now is very bulky. If you saw Jason CES review with the LED FP you can see how big the machine needs to be.

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"like it was case with the HD7100"
I'm pretty sure they made it before for that company, what was it medi/something?

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Is this thing competetive with jvc projectors contrast-wise ? JVC specs only says 33k:1 for rs10 for example, and many 3lcd projectors (or lcos from sony) have higher contrast in specs but don't come close to JVC in reality. I wish those specs were more reliable and useful for judging the performance.
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I'm getting one to test soon, what I'll look for is how bright it is in HT setting and how low the black level is. Plus how good the detail in black is for movies like Dark City, AVP etc. Wing did say the ANSI reading on this PJ was surprisingly high, near 700.1

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I saw the 8200 and I thought it was amazing great depth, lots of punch and great blacks. Not as good as the RS20 blacks but good non the less. I think this PJ is not that far behind from the Lumis and believe that Sim2 has some serious competition with this PJ AND the LED Vivitek which I thought had the best picture at the show. I have lots of screenshots and HD Video that I took will post this week on many PJ's as I'm waiting for my plane at the airport as I type on my iPhone stay tuned :-)

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Is it close to rs10 in blacks? How does it compare to rs20 or rs10 overall?
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Hope the larger case also means a return to H79 noise levels.

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Is it close to rs10 in blacks? How does it compare to rs20 or rs10 overall?

I haven't seen the RS10 but no it's not close to the RS20 in blacks.

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I saw the 8200 and I thought it was amazing great depth, lots of punch and great blacks. Not as good as the RS20 blacks but good non the less. I think this PJ is not that far behind from the Lumis and believe that Sim2 has some serious competition with this PJ AND the LED Vivitek which I thought had the best picture at the show. I have lots of screenshots and HD Video that I took will post this week on many PJ's as I'm waiting for my plane at the airport as I type on my iPhone stay tuned :-)

Btw msrp is around $9k but I was told will street at $4999

Hey Chris you are Sim2's worst nightmare. You obviously love high end toys, have a beautiful home, are an A/V enthusiast and choose the JVC over the Sim2. You are also immune to the, "you don't prefer it because you can't hang with the big dogs" comments.

I am looking forward to your pictures and review of the Optoma and the Vivitek. OPtoma have earned a special place for me with their great PQ while keeping the costs low. I do think that average person buying the Lumis would not even consider the Optoma. It;s good to know that the A/V guys that want a great picture , but feel a little distressed when having to drop $40K for a projector can cuddle up to 85% of PQ while spending 13%.

Looking forward to the hi- def video!!

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I spent time watching the 8200 boh on Sat. and again Sunday. I too thought it looked excellent. Decent blacks, very bright, and great colors. And that crisp DLP look. A great machine for the money.

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I spent time watching the 8200 boh on Sat. and again Sunday. I too thought it looked excellent. Decent blacks, very bright, and great colors. And that crisp DLP look. A great machine for the money.

thats another positive report for the Optoma !!! What's nice is it seems by those numbers that it can easily sustain a 10-12 foot screen, which is really exciting!!

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This Dynamic Black auto iris is supposed to be pretty undetectable, those who saw the demo would you say that's true? You would need material that goes from day to night scenes and inbetween.

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I see it has the new Pixelworks Motion engine chip

http://www.pr-inside.com/pixelworks-...gy-r996137.htm

"Pixelworks' DNX MotionEngine technology incorporated in the PW9800 chip uses proprietary MEMC (Motion Estimation and Motion Compensation) algorithms to significantly enhance the quality of the video delivered to large high-end LCD TVs, advanced projectors and other display products. The technology eliminates motion artifacts in high-resolution digital video content, often referred to as "judder," to ensure smooth playback"

Is that a first for DLP?

and some other info

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/p...oma-hd8200-dlp

Pureshift sounds good.

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So it sounds like this projector won't work for people who have to place the projector with the lens centered near the top of the screen on a shelf mount.

I hope I'm wrong since this looks like a sweet upgrade to my H77 (but my H77at least lets me put the projector on a high shelf mount).
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any idea of colour wheel speed or any measures used to reduce the rainbow effect?
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