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post #991 of 2424 Old 11-08-2010, 03:11 AM
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I would suggest top/bottom. Cause if you want to use side by side, you can't use the extreme end of the up/down lens shift.

Anyway, recently I feel the skin tone is a bit red so I take out my i1Pro and redo the calibration. Been using for another 500 hours since last calibration and my greyscale had drop from D65 to around 6200K-6300K across 20% to 100% greyscale. A bit of fine tuning and the greyscale is back to almost perfect.
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I purchased the W6000 from b & h photo online last week and received it today. It came with firmware 1.01 and so far I am very impressed with everything. I was worried about the iris and some other issues but no problems here. I had the w5000 for a while and it was just a little on the dim side for my taste and the iris was very noticeable when it was moving and I can barely even pick up the movement even if I'm looking for it on the w6000.

The only thing I don't like and maybe I am doing something wrong but there is about 1" inch black border around the entire picture. Ive tried all aspect ratios and I have the resolution running form my Pc via HDMI at 1920x1080. I also tried from my blu ray player and had the same results. Can someone tell me is this normal ??
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Use real mode. It should give you 1:1 pixel perfect. If you use ATI, make sure the scaling is at 100%. By default, ATI set it less than 100% which give you the black border. FYI, the projector does light up the border a bit but if your screen have a black velvet border, then you can mask out the slightly greyish border.
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I am planning a 187" diagonal scope screen with a 1.0 gain. Will the Benq W6000 be able to light it up in a light controlled room. I am tempted by the Benq because of it's relatively low price. I believe that the next level of brighter projectors start at $35K.
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Played a bit with mine some more today. I made a quick-job fabric screen (white muslin) at 151" wide 2.35 so I could play around with the sizes a bit and this thing is pretty amazing. I have the dynamic iris off, low lamp, and cinema mode. Minor run through with an avia disc to tweek the contrast.
I will attempt a pic tomorrow. Running through a few blu-rays, std dvds and HD tv.

Did you get acceptable results for the 150" wide scope screen? With an A-lens? What was the throw?
I am attempting something similar
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I have had a w6000 since March of this year. With a 1.0 gain 120" screen.
No problem with having enough brilliance in economy mode, even with can lights on over the seats to allow snacking or moving around during sports events.
Funny when I first setup blackout windows my wife complained a lot at that time with a plasma screen. Now with the projector she is the first to complain "DO YOU NEED THAT LIGHT ON??

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I am planning a 187" diagonal scope screen with a 1.0 gain. Will the Benq W6000 be able to light it up in a light controlled room. I am tempted by the Benq because of it's relatively low price. I believe that the next level of brighter projectors start at $35K.

For your screen size, you better get a screen with some gain around 1.3 to 1.4. You need the Anamorphic lens to squeeze every light you can get from the projector.
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For your screen size, you better get a screen with some gain around 1.3 to 1.4. You need the Anamorphic lens to squeeze every light you can get from the projector.

Thanks. I don't think AT screens have that high of a gain. Iguess that I'll just use this PJ and wait a couple of years until 3000 lumen PJs drop to the $2k price range.
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My W6000 on a rear shelf roughly 15ft back, 1 ft below the top of the screen and center. The screen is 120 1.1 Gray.

I cannot get focus 100% on the full screen. Using the HD Basics disc or an internet page.

Left top to center to bottom right I can get spot on, but right top and bottom left is out of wack. Not a lot, but definately enough to bother me.

Does not matter how I adjust the focus something will always be out of wack. If I set a bad corner the other side goes out???

Watching movies you do not notice it at all...

Anyone els have this problem? What do you guys think it is?
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What sort of screen is it?

If the screen has a frame, the frame may be warped from an overly tight screen material. If the screen is a roll up/down type, it's probably hanging down flat and it's not warped.

If the screen is not warped and you can verify that, the projector is defective.
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I have the same problem with my W6000. The screen is 100% flat with a robust fixed frame, but no matter what I do I can't seem to get perfect focus on the sides of the screen.

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Frames often warp

Wood frames, aluminum frames, they often warp. Sometimes sturdy frames have their own warp and it's difficult to see it. If the screen material is drum tight, it can pull and cause warp.

Find someone who has a motorized or manual pull-down screen and try your projector on that. If you consistently find poor focus on several screens, the projector is defective.
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Got my w6000 on the weekend...so far I like it. It is replacing a pt-ax100u. Only bad thing so far is the high pitched whine. I can live with it but I'd like to know what is causing it. This projector has more fan noise than the ax100 but again I can live with it. I had to modify my projector mount as I needed to move it back a foot from where the ax100 was. I designed a mount for it and cut it out of HDPE on my cnc machine. I still need to tidy up all the cabling.
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I have a Mits HC4000 I'm thinking about returning because they have some serious corner to corner uniformity issues with brightness and color. I'd like to stay with a DLP, and I'm curious if the W6000's brightness/color in the corners is even or does it have a "hot spot" of brightness in the center of the image? A W6000 may be in my future. :-)
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Got my w6000 on the weekend...so far I like it. It is replacing a pt-ax100u. Only bad thing so far is the high pitched whine. I can live with it but I'd like to know what is causing it. This projector has more fan noise than the ax100 but again I can live with it. I had to modify my projector mount as I needed to move it back a foot from where the ax100 was. I designed a mount for it and cut it out of HDPE on my cnc machine. I still need to tidy up all the cabling.

I'm also thinking of replacing my AX-200 which is same as AX-100 you had. Just wondering if you notice a big improvement in terms of picture quality.
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My W6000 is about 10 months old with almost 1200 hours. The picture in economy mode is uniform with now hot spots on a white screen with only 1.2 gain. It is about 21.5 feet from a 120" in a dark room.
The only issue is one day it seemed to have the iris lock almost closed. Nothing would change but the image became too dark to see. The next day it worked fine and has for several weeks after.
Who knows what might have been.

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I'm also thinking of replacing my AX-200 which is same as AX-100 you had. Just wondering if you notice a big improvement in terms of picture quality.


Brightness definitely...overall picture quality slightly. The w6000 is significantly louder and unfortunately I seem to be seeing a lot of the rainbow effect Was it worth it? If I didn't see rainbows I'd say yes...not sure if I can live with them.
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I am planning a 187" diagonal scope screen with a 1.0 gain. Will the Benq W6000 be able to light it up in a light controlled room. I am tempted by the Benq because of it's relatively low price. I believe that the next level of brighter projectors start at $35K.
I am doing a 12 foot wide (approx 170" diagonal) 16X9 on a white wall and there is plenty of brightness even without Brilliant Color on (which would add another 250 lumens approx)

I think you wlll be fine, and worst case you'll have to use BC.

I had been using a W5000 at a bit under that size and the only way I could get enough output was to crank up every parameter.

Now with the 6000 I run a much flatter response, and with the added sharpness of the 6000 over the 5000, I am noticing a lot more detail and subtlety of color.


However I can't seem to get it sharp from edge to edge. Perhaps it's the lens shift. I was able to get the 5000 much more uniformly focused.

I even came up with a setting that allows me to watch it in broad indirect daylight next to a wall of windows. This is a bright unit.
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I have a Mits HC4000 I'm thinking about returning because they have some serious corner to corner uniformity issues with brightness and color. I'd like to stay with a DLP, and I'm curious if the W6000's brightness/color in the corners is even or does it have a "hot spot" of brightness in the center of the image? A W6000 may be in my future. :-)

Have you checked the hc4000 and hc3800 threads?
I noticed the same problem when I owned the hc3800 (which I eventually returned for RBE), but the color uniformity issue went down significantly at 200 hours (right before I returned it).

Hey does anyone know if there are any DLP's similar to the w6000 or hc4000 quality with fewer rainbows?

The hc3800 had just slightly a few too many rainbows for me, if I could find a DLP projector with just a bit fewer rainbows, I think my RBE sensitivity would become a moot point.

Right now it sux cause I was looking at the Epson 8500ub (owned 2, returned 2 for issues), the JVC HD 250 (bad ANSI contrast, overpriced for the features you get IMHO), and now I am stuck.

If I wasn't so RBE sensitive, the w6000 would be my next PJ, but man, I am so stuck now with the RBE sensitivity and also not liking the LCD or LCOS projectors as much with their crappy QC or sharpness, or just bad ANSI contrast. I would stay with the 8500ub if it didn't have so many convergence issues, I don't like my pictures fuzzy wuzzy!


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I just joined the w6000 club and am very happy. I have owned a 8720, w20000 and JVC RS1 in the past, and I am very happy to be back with DLP. Nothing against the RS1, as it is a great projector, but just lacks the dynamic look of DLP that I've grow to love. It will be tough going from the w6000 since I have been spoiled with it's brightness. I agree that t is loud and the dynamic iris can be distracting (I have the 1.01 firmware), but the pros are overwhelming. Regarding the above post who is sensitive to rainbows, have maybe you should try the Samsung SP-A800B. It can be picked up for a great price on ebay and might fit your needs. I have owned a Samsung ae710 in the past and it was one one my favorite projectors. The color is second to none.

ps Anybody had a chance to calibrate the w6000 (brilliant color off)? I was hoping to get some settings to try out.

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Projector People has great price on w6000

One of our sponsors offers shockingly low price if you double click on ELFDEALS and check prices from there. Even lower than their demo.

The lens isn't a high performance unit, but movies are "filmic" in nature and excellent focus isn't a serious issue. Edge to edge sharp focus seems wonderful, that's for sure; but at a low price, a large central area should focus razor sharp.
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Projector People has great price on w6000

One of our sponsors offers shockingly low price if you double click on ELFDEALS and check prices from there. Even lower than their demo.

The lens isn't a high performance unit, but movies are "filmic" in nature and excellent focus isn't a serious issue. Edge to edge sharp focus seems wonderful, that's for sure; but at a low price, a large central area should focus razor sharp.

Wow, that is a steal! If anyone's been waiting for this to become too good a deal to pass up...stop waiting. I told myself if it was a good enough deal I'd go 8 rounds with the wife for one...hmmm...should I dust off the old boxing gloves or not?

Makes me think a revised version (W7K?) is just over the horizon...I'm not that big on 3D but if it were the same price; I'd sure like to try it. Anyone know?
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No news of w7000

Instead of 3D, I much prefer deliberately designed mount for interchangeable lenses. You get a cheapie if that's what you want, and you can buy a Minolta lens for the cost of the projector if that's what you want. Thrift is a virtue, and support for excellence is equally valid as a virtue.

The industry has experience designing interchangeable lenses. Some projectors give you choice of wide, medium, and tele zoom lenses for ease of installation. But what about cost as a variable? Low, medium, and high cost?
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Sharpness on a scale of 1-10 please ?
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Sharpness on a scale of 1-10 please ?

Projectors don't get much sharper than the W6000 - 9/10 for sure.
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Sharp can do sharper

With JVC and Epson running full steam, Sharp doesn't make projectors. If they did, they would use DarkChip 4, and instead of 0.65 inch it might be 1.2 inch. And they would use Minolta lens. And they would start completely new to get 4000:1 native contrast with actual, measurable 2000 lumens. And it would list at $16,000.

Would folks buy it? Well, if it comes with native 2.35 DarkChip 4 micro mirror device, folks would line up several months ahead of production.
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Sharp can do sharper

With JVC and Epson running full steam, Sharp doesn't make projectors. If they did, they would use DarkChip 4, and instead of 0.65 inch it might be 1.2 inch.

Sharp doesn't make the DLP chips (nor any other PJ manufacture), so a 1.2" DLP chip wouldn't be possible, unless that actually exists?
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Projectors don't get much sharper than the W6000 - 9/10 for sure.

I agree it is a definite 9/10..it's the sharpest unit I've had any experience with. It would be nice if there's a updated version around the corner. I may bite at it over the JVC-HD250 if such a pj exists.
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Is the Optoma HD82 as sharp as it ?
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I know I'm just torturing myself, but the BenQ EU site has all their 3D pj stuff up (except the pjs), they've got it coming over there why no word on the US release (or lack). I also saw they still are selling the W6000 and W6500, wonder if they're just going to skip the US market with that one?

Maybe just put a little more aggressive AI in the next release to stop down more light for those that want it, maybe a more color accurate dynamic mode...oh, and maybe 3D? (Santa, are you listening?)
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