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post #181 of 2424 Old 09-16-2009, 03:58 AM
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all my tests where BC off, plenty bright
i confirm Art nrs around 1100-1300lumens
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Well that's interesting. If anyone knows what it is, please let us know!

I was referring to the "VIDI Lighting Technology".

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With VIDI lighting, W6000 can boost specific colors in different application modes for a stunning picture.

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I was referring to the "VIDI Lighting Technology".


From Benq website

VIDI Lighting Technology Adjusts Light More Effectively
W6000 uses the VIDI technology to produce more brightness by delivering more lumens on screen than competing systems and normal lamps. It also increases brightness by 15% for red & blue. With VIDI lighting, W6000 can boost specific colors in different application modes for a stunning picture.
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I was referring to the "VIDI Lighting Technology".

The W5K had VIDI, no?
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The W5K had VIDI, no?

Yes the W5000/W20000 and now W6000 use this to get higher lumens. The BC is intended to boost mid-tones.
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Digital.........

Does the W6K have a setting, such that one could put an anamorphic lens in place and leave it there.... then simply change the mode on the projector depending on if you were watching 2.35 or 1.78.1.33??

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Digital.........

Does the W6K have a setting, such that one could put an anamorphic lens in place and leave it there.... then simply change the mode on the projector depending on if you were watching 2.35 or 1.78.1.33??

Thank you

Well the W5000 does, and the W6000 spec sheet on the Benq site lists the W6000 as being 'Panamorph Lens Compatible'. So I would be amazed if the W6000 does not have both the vertical stretch for 2.35 and the horizontal compression for 1.78.
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OK, missed it the first time, but the Benq site show the following for Aspect Ratio:

Anamorphic/ 4:3/ Wide/ Letter Box/ Real screen selectable

Letter Box is their name for vertical stretch, and 4:3 is the horizontal compression. So it does appear to support a fixed in place anamorphic lens.
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OK, missed it the first time, but the Benq site show the following for Aspect Ratio:

Anamorphic/ 4:3/ Wide/ Letter Box/ Real screen selectable

Letter Box is their name for vertical stretch, and 4:3 is the horizontal compression. So it does appear to support a fixed in place anamorphic lens.

Thank you very much for the research .

I have not pulled-the-trigger on a 2.35 screen yet... but it is nice to know that it is a possibility should I decide to go that way. I don't think I would like to jump all the way to motorized sleds et al: so being able to just leave the lens in place would be a big benefit.

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Projector Central hopes to have their review of the W6000 posted on Friday.

www.projectorcentral.com/
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Thank you very much for the research .

I have not pulled-the-trigger on a 2.35 screen yet... but it is nice to know that it is a possibility should I decide to go that way. I don't think I would like to jump all the way to motorized sleds et al: so being able to just leave the lens in place would be a big benefit.


Maybe I shouldn't bring this up here, but I'll start seriously considering an anamorphic lens if 21:9 2538 x 1080-rez projectors ever hit the market.

....in which case, I guess I wouldn't need one!
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i'll do cinemascope screenshots over the weekend
know that if you leave lens in front + 4/3 mode you still lose horizontal mirrors (vertical ok 1080)
still better to have a device like cineslide so constantly get 1920x1080 displayed
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I've searched everywhere and can't find info on the speed of the color wheel. anyone know??
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I've searched everywhere and can't find info on the speed of the color wheel. anyone know??

From benq.com:

"BenQ's high-speed, 6-segment color wheel delivers the best balance between optimal brightness and color"

So does 6 segment = 6 speed? Seems right, but I'm not entirely sure....
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Believe its a 6 segment 4x.
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Anyone have some settings yet?

I am having trouble getting mine to make an impressive sharp image and shadow details :/

The Infocus IN82 I hat before hat a sharper image but not as good colours

Access to ISF menu is the same as the W5000 (up,down,up,down,left,right)
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I was considering this projector, but after hearing about the iris problems I have decided to hold off on this one. Hopefully we can get more user feedback as the unit seems to be available now.
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Well to be fair the review stated it was a pre-production model and the iris could be better in the production model. I'm just waiting to see what the reviews say. I generally don't use an Iris anyways I set it to manual mode to cut down the lumens although not sure you can do that with this one.
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I am going to test the W6000 tonight and will let you know about the IRIS. The reviews also complained about the Sharp Z15000 iris. I tested it last night and did not see it working.
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Art has been discussing the DI issues of the W6000 with BenQ. They said that they'll get back to him on Monday; hopefully with a fix.

He posted in this blog that if they fix the DI, the W6000 will be a great projector, as opposed to just a good one.

Apparently, the W6000's blacks really suck with the current DI.

www.projectorreviews.com/blog/
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Apparently, the W6000's blacks really suck with the current DI.

www.projectorreviews.com/blog/

You mean without the current DI.....

He said - "With the DI turned off, (by those who may find it occasionally annoying), the black levels will leave much to be desired,"

A page or so back another post mentioned that with the DI on, the blacks were in the same league as the 6500 / HW15. Its just that Art is noticing the iris work more than most . . . . hopefully, as others have said, its just his pre-production model as no-one else thus far has mentioned this. (though, obviously, feedback on this unit is still quite sparse!!!)

Loganross (and any one else) - looking forward to your feedback!!!
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If it is like the W5000 DI implementation, it is to slow to 'stop down' during a darker scene. The iris responds very quickly when going from a dark scene to a bright one, but lags several seconds when going from bright to dark.
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Seems like a light cannon, but lagging contrast (w/o DI active), allows me to uncheck this PJ from my possibles list
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He said - "With the DI turned off, (by those who may find it occasionally annoying), the black levels will leave much to be desired,"

He also said: "...but with a dynamic iris definitely [that] can stand some reworking."

So which is it. IMO the W5000's was pretty good but occasionally annoying. This is really starting to sound like my skepticism was well founded. Based on the comments so far (DI that needs work, far brighter than the W5000, with better black levels), it really does sound like BenQ just cranked up the DI multiplier to get the high contrast numbers.

If this is the case, the only fix is offer a less aggressive DI setting. But then the black levels/CR won't be anywhere close to what they claim.

See what an anamorphoscopic lens can do, see movies the way they were meant to be seen
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Has Art tried sending the W6K RGBHV?
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How would this compare to a AE-3000?

I want brighter and want to change to DLP this generation for the sharpness and blacks. Also I have had Sony LCOS, and Pany and Mitsu LCD, but never ever had DLP. I want to try DLP - I have never owned a DLP product in my life. I wanted an LED one but they are not bright enough for my huge setup.

My setup is bat cave throwing from a back shelf 17 feet away from a custom 160" inch High Power screen.

Will this projector have the throw distance to be able to fill 160" from 17 feet?

How will it compare to my PT3000 Panny (which has faded due to bulb wear).

Is this going to be much brighter for my giant screen? How about picture quality??

EDIT

NVM This thing is pitiful with 1:1.5 I can't throw a big enough image from 17 feet
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Interesting. No mention of iris issues in that review.
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Projector central has an odd review up for it.

No mention of DI issues.

After calibration they claim light output of 658 lumens.

He seemed impressed with contrast, but also claimed it suffers from extra image noise.

Sounded more like a w5000 review really.

He compared it to the new mitsubishi 6800, claimed they are almost identical, with the benq having a bit more contrast, and the 6800 having less image noise.

He also said its really sharp.

Image noise was a big problem with me at first with the w5000, so i was hoping it would not be an issue with the 6000. I have not really noticed image noise, since i moved sharpness down a bit and the bulb worked in and upgraded firmware fix for image noise, but really grainy movies its still apparent.

Im curious if this comes with the territory with all sharp dlp's or not.
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