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Anyone heard of this projector before? It's up on Best Buy. At first I thought it was just the 5080 rebadged for BB, but then I noticed the specs were different. It has 500 more lumens, and 5,000 more contrast.
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Looks like a W6000 clone to me.
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I have been trying to find out more about this projector. It is definitely related to the Optoma HD8600. It may, in fact, be basically the same. Comparing the specs to the HD8600, teh thing that I am wondering about is whether the Vivitek has an adjustible fixed iris like the HD8600 does. Otherwise, they seem to be the same: same lens choices, etc.

The BenQ is different, or so it seems. The lens is different and so is the processing (HQV versus Pixelworks).

I e-mailed Vivitek but they never got back to me. I'd like to see a manual, but none is available online.

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Did anyone notice the spec's say this thing has a maximum resolution of 1600 x 1200?

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At first I thought it was just the 5080 rebadged for BB, but then I noticed the specs were different. It has 500 more lumens, and 5,000 more contrast.

I thought that too at first, but the 5080 uses Pixelwork's DNX chip - like the Optoma 8200.

Maybe all those returned 8200s have been re-badged as Viviteks, then sold at 1/2 price.
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I'm curious about this projector. I can't find much info about it, aside from specs on Best Buy's website. The different specs from the 5080 could easily be just tweaked numbers to make it appear better, and it's ultimately the same unit. Or maybe a feature here or there is different, or the 5082s are hand picked best units of 5080s. There is also an H1082 showing up at a $300 premium over the H1080, so I think this is just BB/Magnolia getting a markup.

At any rate, one thing in the published specs looks clearly off, but is intriguing, and that is the lens shift. Here's what I've seen quoted in a few places: "H- -40%+120%/ V - +/- 10%". First, it appears to have the H and V backwards, it makes no sense to have asymmetrical H and only 10% V. But assuming that's actually -40% +120% V, the asymmetrical number looks very appealing. It would make sense that you would want more range above the lens (below for ceiling mount). I've had some trouble mounting a BenQ W6000 and having it hit 13" below lens center, so that is intriguing to me.
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Lawguy did find out not only does it use DB it also has a manual Iris. Unless the cusotmer rep he spoke to was wrong.

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I found another post in the Optoma HD8600 thread where someone claims a Vivitek rep confirmed that the H5082 is an H5080, the usual trick of giving BB a different SKU so they don't have to price match.

Tom, are you saying manual iris in addition to an auto iris? I usually associate DB with an auto iris, but I may need to do a little more research on that.
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I found another post in the Optoma HD8600 thread where someone claims a Vivitek rep confirmed that the H5082 is an H5080, the usual trick of giving BB a different SKU so they don't have to price match.

Tom, are you saying manual iris in addition to an auto iris? I usually associate DB with an auto iris, but I may need to do a little more research on that.

They told me that it has both: DI and a 9 step manual. Just like the Optoma HD8600.

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It was said to have DB/auto iris and a seperate manual iris.

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They told me that it has both: DI and a 9 step manual. Just like the Optoma HD8600.

Any chance you can ask about the H5080 getting a review somewhere? Would be nice to see how it measures up in real life. Does the 1600 lumen indicate a real brightness advantage over the HD8200, how well does their use of DB work, etc.
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The 8200 uses a new 220 watt lamp these others are using 280 watt lamps. It was said the newer lamps from phillips put out more lite for the watts. Like the 220 has lite on par with the 250 watt.
I can confirm this my light meter testing on the HD8600 showed very high lumens right up there with the 300 watt lamps models I tested.

I don't think I can get one of the viviteks I don't even know where the company is their site is limited. I was thinking of buying one but I got a deal on the HD8200.

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Bump

5082 in stock at BB, 5080 in stock at PP and VA.
Anyone purchased one yet?
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I'm seriously considering the H5080 although my 1st choice was the Infocus SP8602. Since it seems that the release date is constantly being pushed back who knows when it will really be available.
I would like to get the H5080 on a trial basis with no restocking fee to see if I like it. I have not seen any reviews except for an Italian web site that inferred that there was a problem with the DI but that was an early release.
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Pretty much my situation too. I dont think I can wait for the Infocus much longer (they were touting a release date of August when first announced).

I put out some inquiries. Im trying to get the Vivitek at about $1000 less than the 8602.

How does that saying go ... A bird in hand (plus $1K in the pocket) is worth two in the bush.
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OK, Im going to give the H5080 a shot. The money I save (over the 8602) lets me upgrade my screen selection to a Firehawk G3. Also, with the lower price-point, I wont feel too bad about upgrading the pj sooner (like to one of those new fangled 3D and/or LED models).

I do know going into it that reliability and/or customer service may be a crap-shoot, but on the other side, it really could be a re-badged 8600 (maybe minus some additional software settings) at 1/2 the price. Ha ha, worse case is that I unload the 5080 after a few months, and get the 8602 when it finally gets released this summer.

Both the pj and the screen will be here next week - though the final installation target date is the Superbowl. I'll do some informal tests (probably in a temporary location) with the pj next week while it is still "returnable".

The instruction manual is supposed to be on a disc (ie, pdf). If someone wants to host it (for others to download), just let me know. Im sure that manual will answer a lot of questions.

BTW, if you go by the "initial" press release(s), the 5080 and the 5082 share the same specs, so I believe that they really are the same model (as another poster commented). BB is just using the original specs - and of course, adding a 20% price hike.
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OK, Im going to give the H5080 a shot. The money I save (over the 8602) lets me upgrade my screen selection to a Firehawk G3. Also, with the lower price-point, I wont feel too bad about upgrading the pj sooner (like to one of those new fangled 3D and/or LED models).

I do know going into it that reliability and/or customer service may be a crap-shoot, but on the other side, it really could be a re-badged 8600 (maybe minus some additional software settings) at 1/2 the price. Ha ha, worse case is that I unload the 5080 after a few months, and get the 8602 when it finally gets released this summer.

Both the pj and the screen will be here next week - though the final installation target date is the Superbowl. I'll do some informal tests (probably in a temporary location) with the pj next week while it is still "returnable".

The instruction manual is supposed to be on a disc (ie, pdf). If someone wants to host it (for others to download), just let me know. Im sure that manual will answer a lot of questions.

BTW, if you go by the "initial" press release(s), the 5080 and the 5082 share the same specs, so I believe that they really are the same model (as another poster commented). BB is just using the original specs - and of course, adding a 20% price hike.

Thanks for taking one for the team.

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I was hoping someone would "bite the bullet". Thanks.
Please keep the rest of us informed.
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Looking forward to the feedback on this PJ!!
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It arrived (along with my FH G3). So far, Im very happy. However, give me a day or so to fully post all my thoughts.

Right now Ive got it in a "temporary" room, projecting up on a beige wall, so I wont even bother with any type of calibration until I get it into its proper location. I took some photos and posted them up on my web site. link. I figured you guys wanted to see the menus. Dont pay any attention to the quality though, as they are just "snaps". I used a tripod and a long exposure. The colors came out odd (maybe it catches the color wheel). None of that is there in "real life". I also posted some pages from the manual. The manual is pretty basic though, it doesnt get into much detail.

Just like the other guys have said; 9 step manual iris, dynamic iris (I used Guitarman's 8600 settings), and motion algorithms. Cant hear the iris, "cinema 2" is more aggressive than "cinema 1", yet pretty much only noticeable during "credits". It can be turned off completely. Everything said in that 8600 thread can be said here.

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It looks to be a true HD8600 clone but for a lot less money.

Can you check one thing on the CMS? The menu tree that you show in a picture on your web site has entries under the CMS for Hue Saturation and Gain, each for RGBCYM. The menu tree for the HD8600 only seemed to show only Hue and Saturation controls for each color. Guitarman said that he thought that it was only a 2d CMS (xy only). Can you verify what is there? If this really has a working 3D CMS with these features and at this price point, it is a really killer deal.

Also, if you could post a picture (your pictures are quite nice) of a 1 pixel crosshatch pattern (focus as much as possible on the pixels themselves), it would be very much appreciated. I am trying to sense how sharp it is.

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In the HSG Adjustment menu, I can set H,S,& G individually for each R,G,B,C,M,Y.
Does that answer your question?
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One other thing? What do the gamma settings look like?

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In the HSG Adjustment menu, I can set H,S,& G individually for each R,G,B,C,M,Y.
Does that answer your question?

Yes! It looks like a real CMS.

What about color temperature adjustments? Can you manually adjust the RGB of the white point?

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Re: white bal
I dont think I can from the main menu. I can only go through the various presets.

I will try to get into the service menu (using the posted Optoma's sequence) this evening.
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I'm away from my home now, so I'll have to go off memory.

I remember playing with gamma when setting my "user 1" configuration. I had a choice of something like 1 through 10. I remember thinking that it was odd that the settings were not labeled anything (the 8600 had labels, right?), just numbered. I ended up just chosing a value in the middle (5 or 6 maybe).

I also ended up leaving the DI in the middle too (6).
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Thanks for the info Rob, especially the pages in the manual . However there does appear to be a discrepancy with the offset. On page 18 the diagram indicates a 20% offset while the table on page 45 indicates a 10% offset. THis is important to me as I will be ceiling mounting for a fixed height 100" diag. screen. The HD8600 manual indicates a 10% shift so I guess that is the correct figure.
Also, how would you rate the fan noise?
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Fan noise is very very low. I was real surprised. My computer fan is louder.

Im doing a 100" image too.
The informal hand (tape measure) measurement I did last night shows about a 3.75" rise (its on a shelf) above the lense centerline at a 13' throw distance. I'll re-check again tonight. What is your throw distance?

BTW, the lense centerline is about 2.75" above the case bottom (where a ceiling bracket would bolt to).
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Joe - forget what I just said. I never checked to see if I had the shelf level, and then the pj might not be level on the shelf anyway (there is not a flat surface on the pj to put a level on). That would throw off my measurements. Give me a day or two to figure that one out. In the mean time, yes, I would assume 10%.


Lawguy - I posted 3 more pages from the manual, showing some of the options.
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