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I have my Epson 9700ub pre ordered have been told it will come in last week of october...
I will post pics when i get it in and installed
Cant wait....
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Think there will be any comparison between the RS40 and the 9700? Or is the JVC kind of in a league of its own?

the jvc is in a league of its own because its in 3d...
If the RS 40 was not 3d i would have went with it...
I realize that that projector comes with alot of features non 3d that make it a looker..
but for me when i pull the trigger to go for 3D its going to be on a unit that is glasses free...
When i watch a 3d movie with the glasses i get headaches....

The Pro Cinema has editable thx modes which is different from last years model..
Also comes with spare lamp,Ceiling mount, cable cover...3yr replacement warrenty...
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but i have been looking at this unit since its premiere at Cedia...
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i have a question regarding the trigger Jack,,,
Going to use a RX A2000 Yamaha amp and it has a trigger input...
If i connect the trigger to the Projector and the Amp what would it do?
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FYI
The Ceiling mount that comes with the 9700ub is not a Flush Mount
But an extended mount..
It extends 6-8 inches from the base.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/P...egory=Products
thats a link to the pic of the mount..
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i have a question regarding the trigger Jack,,,
Going to use a RX A2000 Yamaha amp and it has a trigger input...
If i connect the trigger to the Projector and the Amp what would it do?

It might damage one or both pieces of equipment. There are 2 trigger outputs on the RX-A2000 receiver and a trigger output on the Epson. Neither has a Trigger input. There is two 'Remote' input/outputs on the receiver but this is for IR control systems and I wouldn't connect a trigger to it.

Triggers on receivers and pre-amps are typically used to turn on and off external amplifiers. On projectors they are typically used to automate lowering and raising electric screens or automating an anamorphic lens.

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I have my Epson 9700ub pre ordered have been told it will come in last week of october...
I will post pics when i get it in and installed
Cant wait....

Why buy that instead of a JVC HD250?

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It might damage one or both pieces of equipment. There are 2 trigger outputs on the RX-A2000 receiver and a trigger output on the Epson. Neither has a Trigger input. There is two 'Remote' input/outputs on the receiver but this is for IR control systems and I wouldn't connect a trigger to it.

Triggers on receivers and pre-amps are typically used to turn on and off external amplifiers. On projectors they are typically used to automate lowering and raising electric screens or automating an anamorphic lens.

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Thanks Bob..
THat now makes sense......
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FYI
The Ceiling mount that comes with the 9700ub is not a Flush Mount
But an extended mount..
It extends 6-8 inches from the base.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/P...egory=Products
thats a link to the pic of the mount..

If it is similar to my 1080UB mount, then that extension bar is removable. I have my 1080UB flush mounted to ceiling using the included Epson mount w/ the extension bar removed.

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Why buy that instead of a JVC HD250?

I can't speak for the OP, but no CMS control is a deal breaker for me.

If that is not important to you, then the JVC is a great machine at a great price, as well as the RS40 IMO.

Having said that, I would hate for this thread to turn into a "9700UB vs other" thread.

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If it is similar to my 1080UB mount, then that extension bar is removable. I have my 1080UB flush mounted to ceiling using the included Epson mount w/ the extension bar removed.

Can you please look at the link from the epson site and verify if that is the same mount that you are currently using...
if it is that would save me from buying a flush mount...
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I can't speak for the OP, but no CMS control is a deal breaker for me.

If that is not important to you, then the JVC is a great machine at a great price, as well as the RS40 IMO.

Having said that, I would hate for this thread to turn into a "9700UB vs other" thread.

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You where reading my mind regarding this thread turning into 9700ub vs other projectors...
Thats not the purpose of this thread...
The purpose of this thread is to show what this Projector Can Do...
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Why buy that instead of a JVC HD250?

Not the purpose of this Thread
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Not the purpose of this Thread

I'm in the market for a projector around the $3K mark so it was an honest question. At least stereomandan contributed an answer.


But thanks for the help.

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I'm in the market for a projector around the $3K mark so it was an honest question. At least stereomandan contributed an answer.


But thanks for the help.

Sorry Just didnt want this to turn into a 9700 vs HD250...

Reason i am going with this unit over the jvc is
Epson Spec list for this projector...
have looked at the jvc and have found them to be way over priced ...
this unit from epson comes with a bulb , mount, cover and 3yr replacement coverage..
Also the modes for cinema day, cinema night , hd, thx.. are easy for anyone to use with out getting complicated ..
If you want a projector that has an amazing picture with no hassle this is that unit.
MSRP is 3199 us and 3499 Ca...
that is a 300 price drop from last year
that price drop i think will get them more sales this next fiscial year.

here is some features

Deep, dark blacks; crystal-clear detail 1080p D7 chip with C2Fine technology and a contrast ratio up to 200,000:1
Rich, vibrant color 3LCD, 3-chip technology
Brilliant images, anytime, day or night 1600 lumens color and white light output1
Natural, smooth image quality built-in Silicon Optix HQV Reon-VX processor
Widescreen format new anamorphic scaling mode preserves original 2:40:1 aspect ratio and eliminates black bars (now usable with fixed or movable external anamorphic lens)1
Sharp, rich images revolutionary Super-resolution technology enhances DVD, SD and HD content
Custom calibration ISF certified with color space selection and color isolation tools
Stunning picture uniformity and positioning flexibility state-of-the-art Fujinon lens with a 2.1x zoom ratio
Energy-efficient E-TORL lamp 200 W lamp lasts up to 4000 hours1
Cutting-edge connectivity two HDMI 1.3 ports for maximum flexibility
Ideal for fast-action movies, TV shows advanced, high-speed auto iris function adjusts light output up to 60 times per second
Easy maintenance convenient dust filtration system with large surface area for greater efficiency
Outstanding support three-year limited warranty; next-business-day shipping service
ISF Modes are Vivid, X.V Colour, Cinema Day , Cinema Night,THX,HD, Silver Screen...
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fraisa,

Being an owner of the Epson 1080UB (3 generations old now), I can tell you that the 9700UB will perform very well. Even now, there are times when I'm watching my projector that I think, how could it get better than this? Granted, I calibrated my projector as good as it can get IMO. I know there are projectors out there that have much better specs than mine (brightness, and native contrast), but at a certain point the increase in cost comes at very incremental increases in performance. I also leave the dynamic iris off. I used to use it, but don’t like the decrease in brightness when it is clamped down in the very dark scenes.

One question though. Do you need the mount? If not, the 8700UB is a VERY attractive projector. Same performance and it also includes the free extra bulb right now (with rebate claim) and it roughly $1000 less expensive. It has a 2 yr vs 3 yr warranty. I went through this with my Hume 1080UB versus the Pro 1080UB, which is similar to the 8700UB vs the 9700UB. I shelf mounted my projector in the back of my room, so I didn't need the mount. The lens is about 18 feet from my 106” screen.

Just a side note. Back when I received my 1080UB, the white field uniformity was not good. The picture was reddish to the left of the screen, and greenish towards the right. Most 3LCD projectors have a hint of this, but mine was not acceptable. Called Epson and they overnighted me a replacement projector, at no cost. This one had poor convergence and sharpness, so I kept the 1st projector and sent back the 2nd. (Also at no cost). Called Epson again, and they overnighted me a 2nd replacement. Fortunately, this one was a keeper, and has been with me for well over 2 years problem free. (roughly 3000 viewing hours)

So if the first unit you receive doesn’t perform as it should, call Epson. Their customer service is second to none. Keep trying until you get a keeper. I know, the QC should be better, and hopefully you will get a good one from the start, but if you don’t Epson will make it right.

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Sorry Just didnt want this to turn into a 9700 vs HD250...

Fair enough - and also I just noticed that the sub-$3K forum already has such a thread.

Thanks for your reply and enjoy your projector.

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Hi Guys,

I posted my question in the 7500UB thread, but it appears to have died off. I apologize if I am offtopic.

Can Epson owners of the 6500/7500 line tell me what they have been seeing for lamp life on their pj?

Basically a couple of days ago I noticed that my projector went SIGNIFICANTLY dimmer. I have 2200 hours clocked on it now. I've owned it for about a year maybe a litle more.

Can someone tell me if my issue is likely the lamp going out?

If so, is this expected for my Epson? I thought I remember seeing it being rated to about 4000. But I could be wrong about that.

Any help is appreciated.

Sorry for the double post, but wondering what I should be doing at this point. I do have one spare bulb that I can install if necessary, but want to rule out any other issues.
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Hi Guys,

I posted my question in the 7500UB thread, but it appears to have died off. I apologize if I am offtopic.

Can Epson owners of the 6500/7500 line tell me what they have been seeing for lamp life on their pj?

Basically a couple of days ago I noticed that my projector went SIGNIFICANTLY dimmer. I have 2200 hours clocked on it now. I've owned it for about a year maybe a litle more.

Can someone tell me if my issue is likely the lamp going out?

If so, is this expected for my Epson? I thought I remember seeing it being rated to about 4000. But I could be wrong about that.

Any help is appreciated.

Sorry for the double post, but wondering what I should be doing at this point. I do have one spare bulb that I can install if necessary, but want to rule out any other issues.

That Lamp is An E-torl Lamp and is suppose to do up to 4000hrs..
Unfortanetly your lamp would be out of warrenty so dont think epson would do anything for you... you could always try though..
Here is the link for your projector ..
Download the spec link on the page and they have listed there info regarding the bulb
Its actually called the market brochure
Since you already have a bulb i would just replace it and call it a day...
In canada the bulbs for that unit here go for 329.00$

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/c...o&oid=63077381
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Will be seeing a demo unit tomorrow in action.
Will take some pics and post them
As for my unit wont have it in my hands till Oct 29 or Nov 1...
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Here are some pics of my new 9700 ub







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Here are some pics of my new 9700 ub

So??? What do you think?
Btw, where did you get that recessed outlet?


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So??? What do you think?
Btw, where did you get that recessed outlet?

Just a quick question. What are the differences between the 9500 and 9700 models? They look identical in spec?
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So??? What do you think?
Btw, where did you get that recessed outlet?

Okay after playing with the unit it is very easy to use with regards to the Color modes..
I had a plasma before and i really like being able to switch it from a LCD Vivid Mode for HDTV and Sports to also going to the movie style thx mode..

The one major advantage to the 9700 is the ability to edit the thx mode..
Love that feature.
I havent had alot of time to really do indepth adjusting ..
that will come over the next week..

But the picture is so awesome everyone that has seen thinks its a LED LCD on the wall...

The recessed outlet is from Lowes 27.99.... It is sick....
That really makes for a clean install


Here are some screen shots.
First at taking them so its with a digital camera so sure i will get better as i go...
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What i didnt like about it was the mount that came with the unit..
Its not very good
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Nice...
What kind of screen?
Planning my room now, and this seems like the PJ for me.
The room will be far from fully light controlled.
Brightness OK?


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Nice...
What kind of screen?
Planning my room now, and this seems like the PJ for me.
The room will be far from fully light controlled.
Brightness OK?

Screen is Black Diamond 2 .8 Gain 113 inch..
It is good in Ambient Light....
I do have a light controled room but we do watch alot of HDTV with the lights on..
will post some more pics...
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What projector did you have?
Nice audio set up btw.
I had a Yamaha dpx830, which was dlp 720p from 2006.
Kevin Miller calibrated it back then.
I spoke to him recently, and he said this 9700 would blow it away.
Not surprising since he did have input in its design.
But I would have him back to dial this one in.


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