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incredible pictures. I love the football with the laces showing. Incredible colors. Now that we sell them, i may have to pick myself one
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As it has been already reported I have been using the Xpand X103s with the VW90ES with much better results. My guests even liked them much more afrter doing an A/B comparison. We watched A Christmas Carol in 3D and I did not get one head ache or eye strain complaint. AVS is selling these at a good price. I plan to modify my Review mentioning them.

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As it has been already reported I have been using the Xpand X103s with the VW90ES with much better results. My guests even liked them much more afrter doing an A/B comparison. We watched A Christmas Carol in 3D and I did not get one head ache or eye strain complaint. AVS is selling these at a good price. I plan to modify my Review mentioning them.

Good news...

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As it has been already reported I have been using the Xpand X103s with the VW90ES with much better results. My guests even liked them much more afrter doing an A/B comparison. We watched A Christmas Carol in 3D and I did not get one head ache or eye strain complaint. AVS is selling these at a good price. I plan to modify my Review mentioning them.

Good to see you back!...and thanks for the tip about the X103's Yeah, I ordered 6 pair right here on AVS (for the smokinest deal)...Can't wait till my VW90ES arrives...(I'm temporarily envious that you got yours first)...
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Good to see you back!...and thanks for the tip about the X103's Yeah, I ordered 6 pair right here on AVS (for the smokinest deal)...Can't wait till my VW90ES arrives...(I'm temporarily envious that you got yours first)...

Dogone, would you receive your Sony soon?
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Dogone, would you receive your Sony soon?

Should have it this week...probably the end of the week. I'm hoping before Saturday... As long as I get it before Christmas I'll be happy...
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Can I buy the Xpand X103 3D glasses from AVS when i live in Norway?

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Can I buy the Xpand X103 3D glasses from AVS when i live in Norway?

I don't see why not. Give them a call here at AVS and see. Shipping might offset buying them elsewhere online...But it couldn't hurt to call. or you can PM mark haflich
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These work very well and if you have multiple 3D displays they are optimal. They work with my Mitsubishi DLP TV better than my Mits and Sammy 3D glasses...

Image is brighter and appears to be even more sharper with less ghosting.
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Hi. Joe. Nice to see you back. How about da Bears?

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Hi. Joe. Nice to see you back. How about da Bears?

Thanks Mark.

My family was over and they are so pumped. The game looked amazing on the VW90ES. We did the 3rd quarter in 3D! That is starting to become a tradition here.

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Joe, is the 2D to 3D conversion halfway decent?...Is it fun to play with?
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Joe, is the 2D to 3D conversion halfway decent?...Is it fun to play with?

It is more than halfway decent. The graphics they flash on the screen or drag from side to side look pretty cool. Also when they draw yellow circles and the score indicator is neat. I like checking out the lines on the field. 3rd quarter 3D is here to stay!

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And I do plan to compare the VW90ES to the JVC X9. It will be tough to unseat the VW90ES in my theater but I love comparing.

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And I do plan to compare the VW90ES to the JVC X9. It will be tough to unseat the VW90ES in my theater but I love comparing.

Cool....Yeah, it'll be great when the speculation is over and the winner stands in the circle... Whichever that may be...Well, got to go...Me lady, she beckons me...
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Cool....Yeah, it'll be great when the speculation is over and the winner stands in the circle...

A definitive winner I just dont see since it will depend on who you ask just like any other year Should be fun reading all the different opinions though

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Guys...one more thing before I go...You have to watch "The Expendables" and crank it up!...The 7.1 DTS MA is awesome!...Goodnight fellers..
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Guys...one more thing before I go...You have to watch "The Expendables" and crank it up!...The 7.1 DTS MA is awesome!...Goodnight fellers..

That's on for tomorrow night! Dexter tonight...

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A definitive winner I just dont see since it will depend on who you ask just like any other year Should be fun reading all the different opinions though

I think what makes it different than every other year is the 3D part of the equation...if one is smooth and relatively artifact free and has great motion, and the other is flickery with bad motion...well, it isn't going to matter who's theater it is in... or what screen...there are "some" standards we must adhere to...
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I think what makes it different than every other year is the 3D part of the equation...if one is smooth and relatively artifact free and has great motion, and the other is flickery with bad motion...well, it isn't going to matter who's theater it is in... or what screen...there are "some" standards we must adhere to...

From the sounds of it, neither is a stellar 3d product (especially being first gen) and both have issues/room for improvement.........as far as which is better, it will depend on who you ask as evidence by the opinions so far I would sure hope the Sony would be the clear 3d champ considering the $$$ dif vs the 40/50 here in the states, but from early reports that does not seem to be the case.......... Should be fun in the next few weeks though! I am just happy the less than 2x the cost 40 is still in the race vs the 90 as far as 3d overall!

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I did a demo for some tonite and they really liked Alice In Wonderland and Aliens Versus Monsters. Both looked crisp and both had very little ghosting. I kept hearing comments that this looks better than the theater and this just looks terrific. We did about 10 minutes of each. Then on to Dexter we went.

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Dexter is getting good! I wont see tonights episode until Tues, but these last 3 episodes are going to be intense!

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From the sounds of it, neither is a stellar 3d product (especially being first gen) and both have issues/room for improvement.........as far as which is better, it will depend on who you ask as evidence by the opinions so far I would sure hope the Sony would be the clear 3d champ considering the $$$ dif vs the 40/50 here in the states, but from early reports that does not seem to be the case.......... Should be fun in the next few weeks though!

Well, Joe seems to love his... And he has a 990 to compare it to for 2D. The 3D part must be pretty good otherwise Joe would say so. I trust his judgement on this. He and myself may not be experts, but hell, our eyes work!...lol. If the biggest so called problem turns out to be dimness, well, I'll be a happy camper... As far as the JVC, well, no one has even seen a final production model, but at the same time they can't really pull a rabbit out of a hat at this late point if there "are" issues...more than likely if there is no delay, then these final units won't be much different than the pre-production units we've been hearing about. savvy?
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I did a demo for some tonite and they really liked Alice In Wonderland and Aliens Versus Monsters. Both looked crisp and both had very little ghosting. I kept hearing comments that this looks better than the theater and this just looks terrific. We did about 10 minutes of each. Then on to Dexter we went.

Joe, I just heard that, "How to train a Dragon" is supposed to have steller 3D to check out...Have you heard anything about this?

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Well, Joe seems to love his... And he has a 990 to compare it to for 2D. The 3D part must be pretty good otherwise Joe would say so. I trust his judgement on this. He and myself may not be experts, but hell, our eyes work!...lol. If the biggest so called problem turns out to be dimness, well, I'll be a happy camper... As far as the JVC, well, no one has even seen a final production model, but at the same time they can't really pull a rabbit out of a hat at this late point if there "are" issues...more than likely if there is no delay, then these final units won't be much different than the pre-production units we've been hearing about. savvy?

I loved reading joerods review and very much respect his opinion, but in the end it is just one opinion. I also very much respect Petris thoughts since he actually has both machines right now (even though the X7 is pre-prod).

As Petri mentioned, the issues were so blatantly obvious on the pre-prod X7that you would have to think these will be ironed out with the final units .............if not JVC is in trouble and the good thing is we should all know in plenty of time so we can cancel our orders if needed

Petris latest comments about RE:A cant be ignored IMO between these 2 machines...........clearly the verdict is still out IMO and the fact that the much cheaper JVCs are still in the running is very impressive dont you think Chuck?

Sounds like your mind is already made up before seeing either though? Why even waste your cash on the 40 if you have already made up your mind? Also, why not grab a 50 to compare with the 90 which would be a better comparison?

Have you fired up the 93 yet? If so, what are your thoughts on that? I hope to get one shipped out this coming week so I can play with it a bit before the projector arrives.

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I loved reading joerods review and very much respect his opinion, but in the end it is just one opinion. I also very much respect Petris thoughts since he actually has both machines right now (even though the X7 is pre-prod).

As Petri mentioned, the issues were so blatantly obvious on the pre-prod X7that you would have to think these will be ironed out with the final units .............if not JVC is in trouble and the good thing is we should all know in plenty of time so we can cancel our orders if needed

Petris latest comments about RE:A cant be ignored IMO between these 2 machines...........clearly the verdict is still out IMO and the fact that the much cheaper JVCs are still in the running is very impressive dont you think Chuck?

Sounds like your mind is allready made up before seeing either though? Why even waste your cash on the 40 if you have allready made up your mind? Also, why not grab a 50 to compare with the 90 which would be a better comparison?

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The 3D part is not going to change from a 40 to a 50...The reason I'm buying both, is I just won't be able to sleep until I see them both with my own 2 eyes...

The Oppo is sweet. I love it...I already sold my 2 LG units, so I'm going to buy another Oppo for the greatroom...It is the BMW of blu-ray machines..IMHO. It is so nice, that I couldn't stop fondling it and sniffing it...(just love the smell of a new unit).
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Dogone. The only 3D standards that count are THX's but they keep them secret. Knowing them could be dangerous because some might differ as to them because they are evidently based on current SOTA for 3D consumer machines even though 3D consumer machines may not measure up to commercial machines (e.g, 120 vs 144).

So we should have a new meditation mantra, if it 3D THX certified its good enough for little old me this year. The problem is that next year the SOTA will advance and next year's machines must be judged by what will be the unpublished new THX 3D standards for next year.

Hopefully the THX sticker will be removable from this year's certified projectors, so we can rip them off in respect to next year's standards which also will not be published.

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