Originally Posted by xb1032
I wouldn't take it that way Sam. Your upgrade cost was next to nothing and you got a good unit so you're in a completely different boat.
This is a large purchase for some and it takes some thought and likely these guys are just throwing their thoughts out there and probably want to upgrade but they may be afraid of investing in a product that might not be all that reliable (again, keep in mind this is probably a bigger investment for them than it was for you. Also, projectors are sold in much much smaller volumes compared to TVs and with not many places to go to determine reliability facts people do rely on boards like this to some extent.
I guess you have been reading my posts to know my next-to-nothing cost of the RS40. Same goes for ChrisDallas I believe as well, who might as well had robbed a bank when he sold his RS20, LOL.
But going back to the reliability and cost factors. This entire forum is based on high-end projectors $3000+ and typically a JVC pojector of this quality would not have sold for less than $5500 new last year and the 5 years before that. With that in mind, and if someone is considering spending $2500-$4000 on a new 65" 3D plasma, this JVC becomes more of a bargain, or a band for the buck, for the screen size they are getting in return, once they determine they have the proper room set up for a cinema projector. And considering that most cinema projectors by Epson, Panasonic, and other familiar names sell for the $2000-$5000 range, the $3000-$3500 cost of a new 3D capable RS40/X3 is well more than understandtable, hence why they can't make enough of them to fill the orders dating from September to February. I personally would not have been able to spend $3500 on a new projector had I not jumped the gun and sold my RS20 back in late September. But like many others, I had already spend $5000-$6000 on an RS2, then an RS20, this year I chose to sacrifice 2-3 months of a projecter-less theater rather than spend $2000 or more out of pocket to get it.
As far as the reliability factor, I have watched cinema projectors closely over the past 5 years and the RS40 does not have any more defect ratio or initial early bugs than most other comprable cinema projectors released and sold over the past 5 years. It goes without saying that the first 100 units will have more problems than the next 500, and the first 1000 will have more problems the the following 3000 units. QC is an evolutionary process, you simply cannot QC what you don't know about.
But the reason behind the manufacturing and shipment delays is the fact that JVC cannot make enough to go around. The same could have been said about the Wii consoles when first released. It took nintendo more than 2 years and nearly 3 holiday seasons to finally have more supply than demand. I don't fault JVC for making 1 or 5 out of a 100 projectors defected, but I do fault them for being shortsighted about the high demand of 3D projectors and falling short and behind with the pre-orders and new orders.
The active AVS forum members do not even form 1% of the entire AV consumer market. So just think for everyone here on this thread posting about wanting to buy an RS40/X3/RS50/X7, there are literary a dozen or more actual consumers, who never visit AVS or even care about a forum, ordering the same RS40 through RS60 projectors. So in other words, JVC is not behind on their manufacturing and shipment because the 3 dozen people posting on this thread, it's a bigger world out there, there are 100's of people walking into showrooms and AV big box stores buying these projectors and other projector brands every hour and every day. These projectors are really selling like hot cakes, I have called several local dealers in Denver and Houston and they're all saying that they simply cannot get enough from JVC to fullfil orders. My local JVC rep in colorado springs was selling up to 5 of them PER WEEK!!! And this is one dealer, and he does not have an actual showroom, since he is more of a custom install dealer.
So I hope this clears things up a bit about the delays, I am sure there are PLENTY of bad QCing taking place as we speak, but even from a Firmware perspective, there has only been ONE firmware since the original firmware, that doesn't tell me much about any MAJOR QCing or bugs going around. At the same time there are unfortunate incidents such as DOA and Defective units, it could very well be more common with the RS40/50 than previous JVC projectors which were originally manufactured in Japan, and that could also be because JVC is selling a heck of a lot more RS40s and RS50s than they ever sold RS10/20/25/35...etc. So probably similiar or slightly higher QC issues, based on the higher sale numbers.
And last I will leave you with the classic AVS response about reporting bugs. ONLY people who are having problems complain, the rest, like me, TOE, Kevin, Zbroke, Jason, and the dozens of other early owners (from Dec through Feb) are done spending hours of our days posting impressions about 3D and 2D, most of us are off and away in our own theaters enjoying these wonderful projectors, which I hope all others on the order list get to enjoy very soon.