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I didn't do anything yesterday other than plug it back in and make sure everything came back up fine. It did.

I'll definitely start with this first as the projector is tucked into the trey ceiling and not super easy to get in/out.

My only inputs currently are a Sony BluRay player and a DirecTV box - with both passing through an Onkyo 709. How do you determine the correct HDMI color space? I see in the manual and menu that it's either YCbCR (4:4:4) or YCbCr (4:2:2). A quick internet scan leads me to believe 4:2:2 would be correct. If it is just this one, would it tend to be fixed at all times or could it change based on source content?

Thanks for all the input guys.

Your Sony BD player may let you set which format it outputs but the Directv set-top-box does not. If you set the JVC projector to only accept one single format (rather than on "auto") then it will need to be on the format supported by both your Directv STB and your Sony BD player. I would say that 4:2:2 is more likely to be compatible with both sources. Also have you tuned off all video processing/scaling within the Onkyo AVR?

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Your Sony BD player may let you set which format it outputs but the Directv set-top-box does not. If you set the JVC projector to only accept one single format (rather than on "auto") then it will need to be on the format supported by both your Directv STB and your Sony BD player. I would say that 4:2:2 is more likely to be compatible with both sources. Also have you tuned off all video processing/scaling within the Onkyo AVR?

Also, you can turn off HDMI CEC on the JVC, and I wonder if it can be disabled on the Onkyo?
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Hi, the manual with the instructions leaves out 1 very important step... you need to provide USB power to the transmitter in order for it to work correctly.

The best solution is a small blackberry or phone charger that has the Micro-USB interface. Once it has power, you will see the LED's pulsing back and forth (aka. Knight rider) and it will lock green once it detects a 3D signal.

there are no changes necessary on the projector in order for this to work. Give it a shot and let us know how you make out.

This microusb must be connect all the time? Where do you connect it? That con be it on projector?
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I've just been going on the assumption that the lockups are an HDMI hardware/software interaction thing.

I keep a vacuum cleaner near the projector now. If it locks up I run the vacuum, sucking air out of the left hand exhaust, while I pull the plug on the projector.

After 30 seconds, I plug pj back in then power it up.

So far I've never had the Red heat warning disable happen when I power back up. I just seal the gaps with my hands.
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I had this problem with my x3 too but sent it service and they remedied this by soldering a resistor as a service bullentin from jvc and after that no more lockups....
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I had this problem with my x3 too but sent it service and they remedied this by soldering a resistor as a service bullentin from jvc and after that no more lockups....

Were you referring to the HDMI lockup issue?

If so, do you have any more info on the JVC service bulletin?

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Yes it was the HDMI lockup issue . Talked to the jvc in sweden and they told me about this bulletin they swap some resistor in the projector.....
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Yes it was the HDMI lockup issue . Talked to the jvc in sweden and they told me about this bulletin they swap some resistor in the projector.....

Did the paperwork they provided with the repaired projector list the service bulletin number or any other info?

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It only says reperation according to the new service bulletin it was a modification on the processor board...
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Pop goes the bulb! Died this Sunday. 1,300 Hrs. High alt mode. Some 3-d watched but mostly bulb lived its life in normal output mode. Now do I call JVC and bitch some more b/c it didnt last 3k hrs or jsut buy one.../???

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Is this your first bulb? And what number is on it? 002...003 ? 1300 must be a new record..anyone's new 003's die yet,with the new flapper? What's the highest hours on the new replacement bulb with the flapper..who has the highest hours so far? I have a little over 150 hours so far...
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Pop goes the bulb! Died this Sunday. 1,300 Hrs. High alt mode. Some 3-d watched but mostly bulb lived its life in normal output mode. Now do I call JVC and bitch some more b/c it didnt last 3k hrs or jsut buy one.../???

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You should definitely try to get a free one from JVC. Even though 1300 hours is quite high already they know that the bulbs don't perform like they should. I have about 750 hours on mine and it got too dim to watch anything, my new lamp from JVC should arrive tomorrow. I just tried switching on the projector for the first time in over a month and now it doesn't even power up and the lamp led is lit. Can't wait to install the new lamp!
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Pop goes the bulb! Died this Sunday. 1,300 Hrs. High alt mode. Some 3-d watched but mostly bulb lived its life in normal output mode. Now do I call JVC and bitch some more b/c it didnt last 3k hrs or jsut buy one.../???

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Makes me want to run it in high alt mode :P

I think most of us would be making ancient sacrifices at the altar to get 1300 hours, but no reason not to call and try to get a new one anyways. Let us know what they decide, since 1300 hours is going to be pushing it and I'm not sure they'll give you a new one at that many hours, but it's worth a shot.


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Pop goes the bulb! Died this Sunday. 1,300 Hrs. High alt mode. Some 3-d watched but mostly bulb lived its life in normal output mode. Now do I call JVC and bitch some more b/c it didnt last 3k hrs or jsut buy one.../???

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They replaced mine free of charge after 1250 hours through my dealer. It didn't pop, it was just too dim to watch. I'm now in the process to get the 2nd one replaced which got too dim in just 600 hours. Hopefully they will do it for free again.

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They replaced mine free of charge after 1250 hours through my dealer. It didn't pop, it was just too dim to watch. I'm now in the process to get the 2nd one replaced which got too dim in just 600 hours. Hopefully they will do it for free again.

Nice! Hope I'm as lucky at getting replacements. The life a new lamp gives these projectors is breath taking!
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Nice! Hope I'm as lucky at getting replacements. The life a new lamp gives these projectors is breath taking!

That much difference even at 400 hours eh?
Free lamps for the warranty period, yay!

I may sell my JVC this year sometime, I like it a lot but I get bored with the same projector. It depends what comes out next year.


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That much difference even at 400 hours eh?
Free lamps for the warranty period, yay!

I may sell my JVC this year sometime, I like it a lot but I get bored with the same projector. It depends what comes out next year.

I've considered selling mine several times. Problem is, I can't seem to find anything else in the range that intrigues me. I watched "The Darkest Hour" last night. It's a mediocre dark sci fi movie, but it sure looks great on the JVC!

Maybe one of the manufactures will release something worth a move. Until then, I'm extremely happy with the image quality of this projector.

And yes..it was a blinding difference from the original lamp at 400 hours!
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Nice! Hope I'm as lucky at getting replacements. The life a new lamp gives these projectors is breath taking!

I'm with you. My dealer just sent me an email. The new lamp is on the way. I plan on doing this until I get 3000 hours out of x number of bulbs. Hopefully this one will be the right one that gets me there.

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My original first bulb got very dim at just under 400 hours, then popped while a new one was on the way from JVC. I've been enjoying this one (002) and have about 250 hours on it. However, in order to get 14 ftL in my bat-cave off a 1.3 gain screen, I need to run it in High power mode. At this point, 3D too dim to enjoy (never mind ghosting).

The RS40 is my third JVC (RS2, RS20, RS40), but at this point, I'm seriously considering a move to Epson (or wait an hope that Red hits one out of the park). JVC needs to stand behind their product and fix/replace these lamps if I'm going to remain a faithful customer of their product.

Q1: Are the 003 lamps with the flappers any better (brighter/longer lasting)?

Q2: Has anyone gotten JVC to replace a second lamp for free?

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My original first bulb got very dim at just under 400 hours, then popped while a new one was on the way from JVC. I've been enjoying this one (002) and have about 250 hours on it. However, in order to get 14 ftL in my bat-cave off a 1.3 gain screen, I need to run it in High power mode. At this point, 3D too dim to enjoy (never mind ghosting).

The RS40 is my third JVC (RS2, RS20, RS40), but at this point, I'm seriously considering a move to Epson (or wait an hope that Red hits one out of the park). JVC needs to stand behind their product and fix/replace these lamps if I'm going to remain a faithful customer of their product.

Q1: Are the 003 lamps with the flappers any better (brighter/longer lasting)?

Q2: Has anyone gotten JVC to replace a second lamp for free?

I'll let you know in the next 300 hours of use how it goes. You and I have the same luck. I had already called JVC when I noticed the drastic dimming and then POP.. it was gone.

If this one does the same thing. I'll be calling for another! lol
I wish they would use who ever Benq uses as a lamp supplier(Osram)? Their lamps are built like tanks!

Before my last one exploded, I was running it in high lamp mode with the aperture fully open. With the new one, it is in low lamp with the aperture completely closed...it is still too bright at times on my 120" screen. I'll take too bright over too dim any day though!
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Q2: Has anyone gotten JVC to replace a second lamp for free?

Yes. Me. Second one is enroute.

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Is this your first bulb? And what number is on it? 002...003 ? 1300 must be a new record..anyone's new 003's die yet,with the new flapper? What's the highest hours on the new replacement bulb with the flapper..who has the highest hours so far? I have a little over 150 hours so far...

2nd bulb. This is the one JVC sent me. 002 v. I thought the hours # was up there from the various posts on the issue here on AVS. Of course as soon as I posted the # it poped a few days later. Just wanted to give some hope to other JVC users I guess.....

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Makes me want to run it in high alt mode :P

I think most of us would be making ancient sacrifices at the altar to get 1300 hours, but no reason not to call and try to get a new one anyways. Let us know what they decide, since 1300 hours is going to be pushing it and I'm not sure they'll give you a new one at that many hours, but it's worth a shot.

lmao @ the sacrifices. My neighbor has been looking for their cat for awhile now (joke) ;o)

I will contact JVC today. I tried calling yesterday but got on the phone too late they were closed. East coast time. Also decided to call Mike @ AVS who told me they bulbs they have in stock are 003 w/ the flapper. Guess it never hurts to have more than 1 bulb....

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What phone number are you guys calling? Any person in particular you guys are talking to there?

I only have 574hrs on my original bulb and this is what it looks like. I know if i turn it on it will blow. Last viewing got extremely dim. My rs1 with 2000+ hours on the bulb was 10x brighter!
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It really looks like they are melting from that and other pictures of failing bulbs. The reflective back is completely destroyed.
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It really looks like they are melting from that and other pictures of failing bulbs. The reflective back is completely destroyed.

Yeah, that would make sense. The "fix" they have implemented with the newer bulbs seems to be targeted at better air flow through the bulb housing.
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Yeah, that would make sense. The "fix" they have implemented with the newer bulbs seems to be targeted at better air flow through the bulb housing.

It would be interesting to see pictures of working bulbs around the 400-500 hour mark to see if they show any signs of this type of deterioration. That might tell us if it is gradual or rapid.
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They replaced mine free of charge after 1250 hours through my dealer. It didn't pop, it was just too dim to watch. I'm now in the process to get the 2nd one replaced which got too dim in just 600 hours. Hopefully they will do it for free again.

I take that back.... The PJ is now not starting. I get the double red light and orange led flashing. I assume the lamp is toast. Good thing I received a shipment confirmation from Fedex and I should get it Thursday. I hope it's the new model.

Edit: I just took the old lamp out. It was a -002 model.

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I take that back.... The PJ is now not starting. I get the double red light and orange led flashing. I assume the lamp is toast. Good thing I received a shipment confirmation from Fedex and I should get it Thursday. I hope it's the new model.

Edit: I just took the old lamp out. It was a -002 model.

Exactly what happened with mine, first too dim and now not starting anymore.
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The more I look at that picture i posted, I can't stop but wonder if it would be possible to mount a custom heatsink to the back of the bulb? It seems like majority of the problem is adequate cooling for the life of the bulb. I don't think it would be to difficult to fabricate something to fit on. Issue would be keeping it snug and making sure it doesn't alter the air flow.

Has anyone tried doing this on other projectors? I might have to try this out with my RS1

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