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Thanks, looking more for wiring info as they look quite different in that regard. Does it matter which wire connects to which connection on the lamp?
For both bulbs, there are two wires, one going to the middle of the reflector, and one going to the end. When replacing bulbs, I always make a note on which goes where, and maintain the same connections.
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That's what I figured. Thanks.
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Been thinking of entering the world of projectors (current owner of multiple Pioneer Kuros) and an acquaintance is offering to sell me this projector. Before I make a decision, I'd like to ask a few questions.

What would be a fair price as of now for this model?

Does this model produce a better picture than any of the current entry level projectors in the $500 to $1000 range?

I see mention of B-stock models on this thread. How does one identify B stock models and what are the advantages over the other iteration?

With no ISF controls, how well does this thing turn out after calibration?

What kind of black level measurement can I expect?

What is considered the best budget / bang for your buck screen that brings out the best pq of this projector?

Thanks for your time and patience.

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Been thinking of entering the world of projectors (current owner of multiple Pioneer Kuros) and an acquaintance is offering to sell me this projector. Before I make a decision, I'd like to ask a few questions.

What would be a fair price as of now for this model?

Does this model produce a better picture than any of the current entry level projectors in the $500 to $1000 range?

I see mention of B-stock models on this thread. How does one identify B stock models and what are the advantages over the other iteration?

With no ISF controls, how well does this thing turn out after calibration?

What kind of black level measurement can I expect?

What is considered the best budget / bang for your buck screen that brings out the best pq of this projector?

Thanks for your time and patience.
I can answer a couple of you questions:

1. I offered mine on AVS board for $700 and got no takers. It is not worth any more than that.
2. It offers much better contrast and black levels than low entry projectors.
3. My calibrator did not want to take the time as he felt they were too hard to calibrate.
4. If he offers it cheaply enough make sure it has the V3(?) of the bulb. One with the flapper. Pictures are early in the thread. Secondly, make sure he has had the MB replaced as it had problems. If not ask for MB guarantee for whatever period you feel comfortable with. That being said, I'm sure there are many owners on this thread who have never had a problem with the RS40/X3 and have been very satisfied with it.

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You may be able to get up to $950 on Ebay, but generally $600 to $700 for an RS-40, if you can find a buyer.

For everyone else, here is the Bulb that Dominic Chan recommended on Page 339 of this thread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111686165674...AIT&rmvSB=true

I bought one of these cheap bulbs for an RS-45, but haven't installed it yet since my official JVC lamp is still going.

My official Version 3 lamp now has about 700 hours on it, and is holding up quite well so far (fingers crossed). Once it dims considerably, then I'll try the bulb dominic is using.

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It's a gorgeous image. I'm a television DP (60 Minutes, documentaries etc) and I'm still blown away years after getting it how good the image is. For $700 it's a crazy steal.

Mine was a b-stock from AVS for $1800 and I thought that was amazing. Original price was around $5k I think. Perhaps buy one of these and wait for 4K laser projectors to come down in price, that's my plane.

I'm projecting on to a 120" 2.35:1 Carada screen.
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It's a gorgeous image. I'm a television DP (60 Minutes, documentaries etc) and I'm still blown away years after getting it how good the image is. For $700 it's a crazy steal.

Mine was a b-stock from AVS for $1800 and I thought that was amazing. Original price was around $5k I think. Perhaps buy one of these and wait for 4K laser projectors to come down in price, that's my plane.

I'm projecting on to a 120" 2.35:1 Carada screen.
I agree if you can actually find one for $600 to $1000, it is a very good buy despite the lamp risks. I mean no NEW projectors even come close to the JVC at that price point.

Here is an ACTIVE auction on a used RS-45 currently at about $650 with 2 days left:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JVC-DLA-RS45...sAAOSwiDFYLH1d

Although for the price it's a crazy steal, the only issue (besides lamps) I have with the JVC's of this generation are how hard calibrating both the RS-40 and RS-45 are as far as drooping gamma over time and yellow cast (at least on the RS-45, not sure about yellow cast on the RS-40). When these older JVC's first came out, most projectors all still had their own unique calibration issues. However, in Today's projector world, most of the newer projectors all come with much better gamma and color and are brighter.

With the RS-40 and RS-45, if you get the gamma issues fixed by using the calibration controls, it generally induces some pixelization and dirtiness to the picture, you have to find a middleground and it's tough on these PJ's. It can be overcome with an external device (Lumagen or HTPC), but then it gets quite complicated still. It can mostly be overcome with the internal controls, but it takes forever and takes hours and hours, and even then it's partly luck based really. Despite the gamma droop and yellow cast, the image it throws is still excellent however.

The best deal going is probably a used RS-49 / RS-4910 / x500 (but most people are asking too much for this PJ used), unless you are BIG into 3D then you are going to have to pony up for the RS-400/500/600 series. IF you can find a used RS-49 for $1500 or less, then that's the JVC to get other than the newer RS-400/500/600 series of course.

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So how does one identify a B stock model? Should I look for a specific serial number / build date?

Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M
Pioneer Kuro PRO-141FD
Pioneer Kuro PRO-111FD x 2
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Howdy....anyone got a link or pics on how to disassemble the case. I've taken out all the screws I've seen and am nervous to pry any harder than I already have to get the top and bottom off. I knocked it off it's mount and messed it up a bit and want to get inside to reroute the wiring to the front remote eye so I can get it put back together as best I can . Thankfully it is working ok.
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Howdy....anyone got a link or pics on how to disassemble the case. I've taken out all the screws I've seen and am nervous to pry any harder than I already have to get the top and bottom off. I knocked it off it's mount and messed it up a bit and want to get inside to reroute the wiring to the front remote eye so I can get it put back together as best I can . Thankfully it is working ok.
Fortunately I was able to get done what needed to be done and it seems to be working just fine. Just lost HDMI 1 input and some cracked, broken plastic here and there.
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Fortunately I was able to get done what needed to be done and it seems to be working just fine. Just lost HDMI 1 input and some cracked, broken plastic here and there.
https://www.elektrotanya.com/jvc_dla.../download.html Look there.
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Thank You very much.
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Hey,

Wondering if anyone can report back on how these non-OEM lamps are performing after putting some hours on them?

Phillips on eBay
http://stores.ebay.com/Discount-Merc...hilips+Housing

Cobolt from Mendtronics
http://shop.mendtronix.com/PK-L2210U-C.html

As usual with my RS40 with the OEM flapper lamp the lamp has begun to flicker around 1,000 hours, switching to High Power Mode solves it for about 200-300 hours and then the lamp dies.

I ran this lamp on High Altitude mode the whole time as a test to see if the higher cooling can speed would lengthen the life, looks like probably not?
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Hey,

Wondering if anyone can report back on how these non-OEM lamps are performing after putting some hours on them?

Phillips on eBay
http://stores.ebay.com/Discount-Merc...hilips+Housing

Cobolt from Mendtronics
http://shop.mendtronix.com/PK-L2210U-C.html

As usual with my RS40 with the OEM flapper lamp the lamp has begun to flicker around 1,000 hours, switching to High Power Mode solves it for about 200-300 hours and then the lamp dies.

I ran this lamp on High Altitude mode the whole time as a test to see if the higher cooling can speed would lengthen the life, looks like probably not?
I purchased the one from mendtronics about a year ago and it has performed great. I probably have <400 hours on it.
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Here's what I posted one page back about the Cobalt lamps from Mendronix:

"My manager ordered one of the Mendtronix Cobalt lamps about 7 to 7 1/2 months ago.

Just recently it went very dark and caused his projector to shut down after about 10 minutes of use. Lamp had about 1,500 hours on it.

He called Mendtroix and they were not sympathetic since he was beyond the 200 day warranty.

I loaned him a good OEM lamp and everything works fine.

Needless to say he will be ordering a JVC lamp. He's been successful at reaching over 4,000 hours on JVC lamps"
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I have a Mendtronics bulb installed and it has been fine. I suspect I have about 500 hours on it. I only use it for movies and some streaming movies. In the same room I use an LED projector, the PF 1500, for everything else. The JVC RS40 is definitely a better picture because of it very good contrast for low light scenes. At 2 hours per movie I have a long time before the bulb wears out.

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Does anyone know of a source for adjustable leveling feet for an X3? It looks like they would need to be 5mm(M5) x 20mm long Can't seem to find any, even Mcmaster Carr doesn't have them.


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Here's what I posted one page back about the Cobalt lamps from Mendronix:

"My manager ordered one of the Mendtronix Cobalt lamps about 7 to 7 1/2 months ago.

Just recently it went very dark and caused his projector to shut down after about 10 minutes of use. Lamp had about 1,500 hours on it.

He called Mendtroix and they were not sympathetic since he was beyond the 200 day warranty.

I loaned him a good OEM lamp and everything works fine.

Needless to say he will be ordering a JVC lamp. He's been successful at reaching over 4,000 hours on JVC lamps"
Well I have no experience with the Mendtronix lamps, but I have had two different OFFICIAL JVC lamps,
including the original lamp when I bought it new, both fail VERY prematurely, and JVC was NOT sympathetic
to my issue since my warranty was expired.
All is all it's just a crapshoot and there is NEVER any guarantee on how long a lamp will last, no matter how
much it costs, and when I have this issues again I will simply by more cheap lamps that seem to last longer than
the ones that costs hundreds more.
Lamp prices for projectors have always been a good scam for the pj manufacturers to make more profit.
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I've been following this thread and noticed that as aside from the Mendtronics and OEM JVC bulb, I could order this Philips bulb from eBay(http://www.ebay.com/itm/111686165674...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT). I wanted to purchase the whole assembly just as a backup. The same vendor has two complete sets and I'm trying to figure out which is the one with the metal flapper from V3? This(http://www.ebay.com/itm/111723931440...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT), or this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/361346498253...AMEBIDX%3AIT)? Thanks!
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I've been following this thread and noticed that as aside from the Mendtronics and OEM JVC bulb, I could order this Philips bulb from eBay(http://www.ebay.com/itm/111686165674...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT). I wanted to purchase the whole assembly just as a backup. The same vendor has two complete sets and I'm trying to figure out which is the one with the metal flapper from V3? This(http://www.ebay.com/itm/111723931440...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT), or this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/361346498253...AMEBIDX%3AIT)? Thanks!
Those two items differ in the bulb they use - the first one Philips and the second one generic. Most likely the housing is the same for both.
The metal flapper is not a big deal. It can be transferred from your current lamp in a matter of seconds.
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Those two items differ in the bulb they use - the first one Philips and the second one generic. Most likely the housing is the same for both.
The metal flapper is not a big deal. It can be transferred from your current lamp in a matter of seconds.
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I have had my X3 since Dec 2011. Recently when watching a movie, heard a pop and the picture went dark with the lamp light flashing. So now trying to research on replacement lamps and see many different prices. Came across this forum so I have a few questions hopefully someone can help with.
1) Do I need only to replace the lamp or should I get a lamp with an assembly? Seems like the phillips lamp on ebay is being recommended...
2) What does reference to V3 and metal flapper mean?
3) My manual shows replacing what looks like an entire assembly and appears to be very straightforward. Any advice for a newbie would be greatly appreciated.

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1) Do I need only to replace the lamp or should I get a lamp with an assembly? Seems like the phillips lamp on ebay is being recommended...
I had very good results with the Philips lamp from the eBay seller discount-merchant-dlp-lamps. The bare lamp is cheaper if you don't mind doing a little extra work which is not difficult if you're handy.

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There are pictures posted in this thread, or the thread for the RS45/x30 which uses the same lamp.
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3) My manual shows replacing what looks like an entire assembly and appears to be very straightforward. Any advice for a newbie would be greatly appreciated.
Replacing the entire assembly is very easy - one screw for the cover, and two screws for the lamp itself. It's safer to unplug the power cord first.
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A few months back, and for apparently no good reason, I got the 2 solid red lights and blinking orange light. The lens cover remained open. Many attempts at unplugging didn't not fix.

Thanks to this forum (as usual) I figured out that it was likely the ballast. And it was. Cost of repairs 494$ (includes a 50$ coupon). Shipping to Mendronix was 39$ each way in the original box. So I was in for close to 600$ but I have my old faithful back.

No upgrade for me this year!
My DLA-X3 exhibited the same warning light sequence. Standby and Warning lights are red, lamp light flashing orange. Lens cover stayed open. There was a small click or pop when it went to this state while watching a movie and I thought the lamp went out. But after reading this post, it sounds like that is not the case. How did you figure it out that it was the ballast?

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My DLA-X3 exhibited the same warning light sequence. Standby and Warning lights are red, lamp light flashing orange. Lens cover stayed open. There was a small click or pop when it went to this state while watching a movie and I thought the lamp went out. But after reading this post, it sounds like that is not the case. How did you figure it out that it was the ballast?

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Symptoms matched what other users had reported. So I sent it in to Mendtronix and it's what they found was wrong with the projector. Good luck.

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Update on X3

I sent my X3 to Mendtronix which was repaired with a new ballast assembly, rebuilt IT board and updated firmware. Since it's been back, I've had problems with it displaying a movie picture. First couple of times were fine but since then, the picture doesn't come on consistently. When it does come on, its usually after I've turned the projector, processor and/or DVD player off and on. At all times, the audio is working, just not the DVD picture. The display is on as I get the DILA screen shot at first start up but the movie doesn't get displayed. On some occasions, the DVD previews were playing but then the picture disappeared when the DVD player switched to the movie main screen. Is this flakiness due to the updated firmware causing some havoc with the other equipment? Or is there some marginality that has surfaced with the HDMI cable that effects the picture but no the audio? Appreciate any advice.

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I sent my X3 to Mendtronix which was repaired with a new ballast assembly, rebuilt IT board and updated firmware. Since it's been back, I've had problems with it displaying a movie picture. First couple of times were fine but since then, the picture doesn't come on consistently. When it does come on, its usually after I've turned the projector, processor and/or DVD player off and on. At all times, the audio is working, just not the DVD picture. The display is on as I get the DILA screen shot at first start up but the movie doesn't get displayed. On some occasions, the DVD previews were playing but then the picture disappeared when the DVD player switched to the movie main screen. Is this flakiness due to the updated firmware causing some havoc with the other equipment? Or is there some marginality that has surfaced with the HDMI cable that effects the picture but no the audio? Appreciate any advice.

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Sounds like you should return it to Mendtronix. Usually repairs have a 30 day warranty. I would argue with them if they didn't pick up the freight both ways.

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I sent my X3 to Mendtronix which was repaired with a new ballast assembly, rebuilt IT board and updated firmware. Since it's been back, I've had problems with it displaying a movie picture. First couple of times were fine but since then, the picture doesn't come on consistently. When it does come on, its usually after I've turned the projector, processor and/or DVD player off and on. At all times, the audio is working, just not the DVD picture. The display is on as I get the DILA screen shot at first start up but the movie doesn't get displayed. On some occasions, the DVD previews were playing but then the picture disappeared when the DVD player switched to the movie main screen. Is this flakiness due to the updated firmware causing some havoc with the other equipment? Or is there some marginality that has surfaced with the HDMI cable that effects the picture but no the audio? Appreciate any advice.

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You might want to check the box in the projector menu under HDMI tab that allow other devices to control the projector. I don't have the manual with me, but it's very obvious when you open the projector menu, check that box might solve the problem, as I remember I had that problem as well until I did that. Good luck.
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You might want to check the box in the projector menu under HDMI tab that allow other devices to control the projector. I don't have the manual with me, but it's very obvious when you open the projector menu, check that box might solve the problem, as I remember I had that problem as well until I did that. Good luck.
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Thanks for the replies. I did some additional troubleshooting since posting this and connecting the HDMI directly from player to projector gets me the picture so bypassing the AV processor is my workaround. My Oppo has a 2nd HDMI output so I added a cable from this to the AV processor to get the audio. I did talk to the Mendtronix tech that worked on my unit who couldn't tell me what the firmware update addressed, only that it was standard procedure to update the firmware on any units that come in per JVC's direction. I must say I was impressed with Mendronix's customer service and responsiveness on this item. I do think the firmware update may have been the source of this since the projector picture takes a bit longer to come on than it did before and didn't have this video problem via my AV processor before.

On the projector menu under HDMI, I checked this and this setting is "off". I decided to turn it "on" and when I did, the projector wouldn't respond to the remote so I unplugged it. Plugging the power back in allowed me to turn it back on, get to the menu and turn the setting back to "off".

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Jack, BT,
Thanks for the replies. I did some additional troubleshooting since posting this and connecting the HDMI directly from player to projector gets me the picture so bypassing the AV processor is my workaround. My Oppo has a 2nd HDMI output so I added a cable from this to the AV processor to get the audio. I did talk to the Mendtronix tech that worked on my unit who couldn't tell me what the firmware update addressed, only that it was standard procedure to update the firmware on any units that come in per JVC's direction. I must say I was impressed with Mendronix's customer service and responsiveness on this item. I do think the firmware update may have been the source of this since the projector picture takes a bit longer to come on than it did before and didn't have this video problem via my AV processor before.

On the projector menu under HDMI, I checked this and this setting is "off". I decided to turn it "on" and when I did, the projector wouldn't respond to the remote so I unplugged it. Plugging the power back in allowed me to turn it back on, get to the menu and turn the setting back to "off".

Tom
Tom,

Glad it seems to be working right. I suggest that if you are satisfied with the Oppo as the host I would not mess with trying to load the firmware again; if you were thinking of doing it, that is. BTW, I am going to post my settings one of these days for all to try. I put a new Mendtronics bulb in it a few months ago and ever since my picture looks like the one people always rave about when speaking of JVCs. Great black level, terrific contrast, and excellent color. I'm not sure why it looks so good but it does. It wasn't this good when I first got the projector.

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