Originally Posted by TheTonik
Ok, I haven't visited the forum since I purchased my RS40. Totally intentional, as I always like to avoid coming here after making a big purchase so I dont read all the nit-picky comments that lead to me questioning my purchase! So this may have been addressed already..
That being said, I would like to ask other owners if they see as much crosstalk in 3D as I do? I mean, the crosstalking is so bad it just totally ruins the 3D experience for me. All types of 3D has exhorbitant amounts of it: games, animated blu-ray's, real-life blu-rays, etc. They all have crosstalk to the extreme. Same thing on my Samsung Plasma 3D panel.
What have your experiences been? My 3D device is a PS3, but I just purchased an Oppo 93 to see if that helps (not getting my hopes up, as Im beginning to thin crosstalk comes down to each individual viewer.)
Most of our 3D experiences with the RS40 have been nothing short of PHENOMENAL!!! So something is peculiarly odd with your 3D set up. First of all, a couple of dumb questions. Make sure your 3D glasses are synched, if you are using the Xpand glasses. If you are using the JVCs they should auto synch provided that you have the JVC 3D emitter plugged into the back (and within total synch range, under 30 feet total distanct from emitter to screen, plus from screen to 3D glasses). Also, most of us seem to be using either the $500 Oppo 93, or the $140 Sony BDP-S570, and none of s have reported the excessive level of ghosting you're experiencing, once we're past the 20 mins warm up. so I am not sure how the PS3 fares in comparison with a true HDMI 1.4 capable 3D playback device such as the Oppo., or if there are certain 3D playback settings on the PS3 that needs to be adjusted, not to mention possible firmware updates. Also if you are using an AVR, be sure to disable all the default video scaling and upconverting to the source where you have your 3D bluray player plugged in.
With that being said, I will start by saying that unlike Flicker, which seems to bother some more than the others (almost nonexistent on the JVCs though), Ghosting is more prone to be noticed by everyone, especially excessive ghosting, so I don't think your eyes in particular will be THAT much more sensitive to ghosting where the same image that 90% of see as acceptable and virtually ghost-free, is Not acceptable to you and filled with ghosting. That just doesn't make sense, which is the GOOD news for you, since this seems like a configuration issue more than a perceived-sensitivity-to-ghosting on your part.
Second, all of us reported some issues with ghosting with gaming, such as Call of Duty Black Ops (SBS 720p), GranTurismo 5 (FP 720p), and other DLC games such as Stardust 3D. With Gran Turismo in particular, you can go through the Display and 3D settings to change certain image properties such as Brightness, convergence, parallex, and all of which can almost eliminate ghosting but it will take a bit of trial and error. I cannot say the same things about Black Ops as it does not offer any special 3D display settings within the game like GT5. but games in particular will show more noticeable ghosting in 3D than 3D blurays which amost show no ghosting.
Third, all of us have confirmed and reported the necessary WARM UP period for these projectors in order for 3D to display without ghosting. So be sure to turn on your projector, possibly put in in 3D mode using the 3D preset, and let it run for no less than 15-20mins, and then play your 3D blurays. My guess is that the ghosting would be decreased by 90% of what you had originally seen when you first turned on the projector, depending on how cold your theater is, you may need to warm up the PJ for a few more or less minutes, but I cannot imagine the projector taking more than 30 mins max to warm up in the cold winter if you did not have the central heat on. so be sure to do this and report back to us
Fourth and last, sometimes ghosting just comes down to how well the studio mastered their 3D transfers, Sony and Warner brothers seem to be on the Pinnacle of this technology, while Disney (surprinsgly) has had a few hits and misses (i.e. ghosting on Disney 3D intro, overly dim/dark image throughout Christmas Carol), and then you have some of the cheaper, what I call budget, IMAX titles such as Wild Ocean and Dinosaurs which show more ghosting than the others, but the same studio released Grand Canyon: River at Risk in 3D and WOW, this IS what 3D is all about. Lastly, don't forget that most 3D content via DirecTV or Comcast or SkyTV is noticeably inferior to Frame Packed 3D content and will show noticeably, but not excessively, more ghosting in many cases since it's 720p or 1080i SBS, compared to 1080P framepacked blurays.
Hopefully this will clear things up for you, and be sure to check out the RS40 settings I had posted on Page 1 by clicking hereIf you haven't already, buy the following 3D titles on blu-ray which should show the least amount of ghosting:
- Open Season 3D (Best in show for animated 3D!)
- Under the Sea 3D (Best in show for live action 3D - tied with Grand Cayon)
- Deep Sea 3D
- Legends of the Guardian 3D
- Alice in Wonderland 3D
- Grand Canyon: River at Risk 3D (Best in show for live action 3D - tied with Under the Sea)
- Step up 3D
- My Bloody Valentine 3D
- Avatar 3D (if you can "get" it)