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Sony UK has just announced a new 3D 1080p projector. Looks like it will do 1300 lumens instead of 1000 like the vw90, but the contrast ratio is only 75000:1, not 150000:1 like the vw90. Still kinda cool though... it'll be half the price of the VW90



"Sony has unveiled a new addition to its 3D projector range, the Sony VPL-HW30.

The HW30 joins last year's VW90, but it is promising a price that's a lot healthier for home cinema enthusiasts.

The Sony VPL-HW30 offers a High Frame Rate SXRD Panel (1920x1080), which produces crisper images with blur reduced.

Couple this with MotionFlow, 70,000:1 and brightness of 1,300lm and what you have are specs as sharp as the image quality.

Sony is also trying to counteract the thorny issue of crosstalk with its 240Hz panel drive system. It will also upscale 2D to images to 3D, which is a bonus considering the lack of 3D content out at the mo.



The VPL-HW30 supports Sony's new range of active shutter specs, snappily titled TDG-PJ1, and the new Sony transmitter, the TMR-PJ1. Both of these will be sold separately to the projector, however.

As for price, the HW30 will retail for under £2,000. When you consider its predecessor cost in the region of £6,000 this is a significant mark down.

The VPL-HW30 UK release date is July."


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This is going to see like hot cakes at a low protein diet convention (you gotta think). The MSRP price in the UK deducting VAT in US dollars would be under $3K.

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Sony is expanding its 3D projector line-up with a more affordable model, the sub-£2000 VPL-HW30ES.

It joins last year's £6000 VPL-VW90ES, offering improved technology for less money, says Sony.

Its dynamic lamp control system is said to offer 3D images that are three times as bright as the VPL-VW90ES, while new, lighter 3D active-shutter glasses provide "a more comfortable viewing experience and a reduction in the ghosting effects that can spoil 3D viewing".

http://www.whathifi.com/news/sony-in...e-3d-projector

Looks like it has all the HFR/240Hz goodies from the VW90!
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This is going to see like hot cakes at a low protein diet convention (you gotta think). The MSRP price in the UK deducting VAT in US dollars would be under $3K.

Let me know when you start taking pre-orders because I want in! (Seriously)
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Looks like it has all the HFR/240Hz goodies from the VW90!

if this is true, this will be what i want. The (hopefully close) blacks and motion of the vw90 but 3 times brighter 3d? sounds perfect to me
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I am already on it. As soon as we have pricing from Sony I will take preorders. i already have the calls in to Sony. But Sony US will lag the UK here perhaps by a bit. Please PM me with your name, address, phone number, email, and I will generate an interested list just like we have for the prismasonic lenses.

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I am already on it. As soon as we have pricing from Sony I will take preorders. i already have the calls in to Sony. But Sony US will lag the UK here perhaps by a bit. Please PM me with your name, address, phone number, email, and I will generate an interested list just like we have for the prismasonic lenses.

Just shot you a PM, thanks for jumping on this Mark as always!
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More news. The new projector in two packages will be shipping here in the US in July. It is an ES model which means 3 year warranty on the projector.

The first is the HYDRA. The model number is the VPL-vw30ES and it does not come with the emitter or any pairs of glasses. They can be procured seperately.


The second is the Velvet and its the VPL-vw30AES and it includes the emitter and 2 pairs of glasses.

Performance is the same. MSRP pricing has been announced at $3699 for the projector alone and at $79.99 for the emitter and $129.99 for the glasses per pair.

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cool, i didnt realize you could convert 2D to 3D. Cant wait to see the new model
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very interesting...


"Its dynamic lamp control system is said to offer 3D images that are three times as bright as the VPL-VW90ES, while new, lighter 3D active-shutter glasses provide "a more comfortable viewing experience and a reduction in the ghosting effects that can spoil 3D viewing".


I am looking for a projector for another room, this sounds like a great price. Mark I sent info regarding interest in the new Sony. thanks for jumping on it so quick!
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I have to say this looks very interesting. I maybe on this as well.
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This is going to see like hot cakes at a low protein diet convention (you gotta think). The MSRP price in the UK deducting VAT in US dollars would be under $3K.

I don't think this is right. Should be looking at the $4.5K ballpark in USD.

"As for price, the HW30 will retail for 3,300 Euro (£2,900). When you consider its predecessor cost in the region of £6,000 this is a significant mark down."
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WOW, looks like JVC's RS40 is about to have some serious LCoS 3D competition.
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I have Sony contacts here in SoCal....
i'm going to see who i have to kill to get a demo.

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It will also upscale 2D to images to 3D

I bet that will work well...

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I converted the price of L2000 in the thread starter's post to arrive at my cost after Vat deduction. The exchange rate is about 1 L for $1.64. I really do not know what the price is in the UK or what it will be here. I see from the above post another source has reported a L 2900 price. Deduct say 15% for VAT. That would make it 2465L. That would make MSRP around $4K US. So based on those two let's guess $3500 MSRP. Remember street is always lower than MSRP. I will post MSRP when I get it reliably from Sony. I am old school. Sony! No Baloney! Sony US has announced a MSRP for the projector alone of $3699, the glasses at $129, and the emitter at $79.

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Wow, a good upgrade to my 3.5 yr old Sony black pearl vw60 .....now I understand all the recent b-stock sales on those. Maybe I can get $800-$1k for it? I'm still happy with it, but 3D and more calibrated lumens is very tempting.
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This news said under £2,000...
Mark, I want one too

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Sony VPL-HW30 affordable 3D projector launches
On June 9, 2011, in News, by tayan Sony has denounced a new further to a 3D projector range, a Sony VPL-HW30.

The HW30 joins final year's VW90, though it is earnest a cost that's a lot healthier for home cinema enthusiasts.

The Sony VPL-HW30 offers a High Frame Rate SXRD Panel (1920×1080), that produces crisper images with fuzz reduced.

Couple this with MotionFlow, 70,000:1 and liughtness of 1,300lm and what we have are specs as pointy as a picture quality.

Sony is also perplexing to negate a troublesome emanate of crosstalk with a 240Hz row expostulate system. It will also upscale 2D to images to 3D, that is a reward deliberation a miss of 3D calm out during a mo.

The VPL-HW30 supports Sony's new operation of active shiver specs, snappily patrician TDG-PJ1, and a new Sony transmitter, a TMR-PJ1. Both of these will be sole alone to a projector, however.

As for price, a HW30 will sell for underneath £2,000. When we cruise a prototype cost in a segment of £6,000 this is a poignant symbol down.

The VPL-HW30 UK recover date is July.
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more news...

New Sony VPL-HW30 3D projector comes in at under £2,000
By Gerald Lynchon June 9, 2011 Comments (0)
Sony have thrown out some details today on their latest 3D projector, the relatively affordable VPL-HW30. We say relatively affordable as it's still set to retail at under a pocket-pinching £2,000, but that's a far sight cheaper than the £6,000 its predecessor cost.

So what does two grand bag you then?

A full HD 1080p projector, the VPL-HW30 features a High Frame Rate SXRD Panel that when coupled with Sony's MotionFlow tech, should work well to reduce the amount of blur in fast moving images.

A 70,000:1 contrast ratio and a brightness of 1,300 ANSI Lumens should result in a deep, detailed picture too. Also, a 240Hz panel drive system will reduce the tricky problem of crosstalk in 3D images, while 2D to 3D conversion is also possible for what its worth, considering how poorly these conversion systems usually work.

However, to access the 3D features of the projector you'll have to shell out for a pair of TDG-PJ1 active shutter specs or two, as well as a TMR-PJ1 transmitter, both sold separately.

Keep an out for the Sony VPL-HW30 projector at your local AV retailer from July.
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also, it looks like these projectors use the newer sony glasses. Does anybody know if the xpand x103s are compatible with the newer sony glasses/emitters?
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I don't think this is right. Should be looking at the $4.5K ballpark in USD.

"As for price, the HW30 will retail for 3,300 Euro (£2,900). When you consider its predecessor cost in the region of £6,000 this is a significant mark down."

Going off past Sony projectors in this range, ones that check in at 2,000 UKP have been $3,000 USD, and the most recent VPL-20/PRO1 was 2,400 UKP and $3,400 USD, so this coming in at $3,000 would be about right based on past models.

Now please just have zoom memory and I will be all over it.

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...Now please just have zoom memory and I will be all over it.

Unfortunately looks like it uses the HW chassis, so manual zoom and shift.
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Note the new "High Frame Rate SXRD Panel" which Alan talked about 4-5 months ago.

Just how much better are they?
As a new technology they probably even beat the DCI professional SXRD projectors.

Lets hope the MSRP is $2999.99 so the moderators will be compelled to move to the step-child forum.
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Note the new "High Frame Rate SXRD Panel" which Alan talked about 4-5 months ago.

Just how much better are they?
As a new technology they probably even beat the DCI professional SXRD projectors.

Lets hope the MSRP is $2999.99 so the moderators will be compelled to move to the step-child forum.

Do you have a link to the "high frame rate SXRD Panel" thread/conversation?
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...Lets hope the MSRP is $2999.99 so the moderators will be compelled to move to the step-child forum.

Why do you want it moved to the "step-child" forum?
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No. Done no research yet.

However its dynamic lamp control system needs to also be explained.
What is it? The electronic equivalent of a traditional mechanical iris with no mass to move?
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Why do you want it moved to the "step-child" forum?

That was humor. Actually I'm in favor of constructing a great firewall to keep out those nasty 720p projectors.
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Mark,

Any chance I will get one to demo or unbox

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From Engadget:

"We all know you deserve to live the projector lifestyle, but fitting Sony's first home projector with 3D -- the $10k (MSRP) VPL-VW90ES that launched last fall -- into one's budget might be a little tough. To that end, the company's launching the "affordable" VPL-HW30ES for the rest of us this year, featuring some of the same 240Hz SXRD tech in a cheaper package. There's no word yet on pricing or a ship date here in the US, but it's confirmed shipping in Europe and Japan next month with a pricetag of 370,000 yen ($4,626 US) in the latter. That lower price nabs specs like a claimed 70,000:1 contrast ratio and 1,300 lumens of brightness and all the picture adjustment settings befitting a product rocking the Elevated Standard tag, along with an upgraded 3D system to reduce crosstalk. 3D compatibility is achieved with Sony's new lighter active shutter 3D glasses and an add-on IR sync device that are both sold separately -- no complex lens switching necessary."
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Hopefully HW30 supports anamorphic mode. VPL-20/PRO1 does not have it.
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