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post #91 of 196 Old 08-19-2011, 04:18 PM
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Initial thoughts are this is specatular even if Alice in Wonderland is 2D transferred to 3D. I couldn't get my wife away from the movie she wants me to get this 3D stuff now.

Out of the box the picture coloring looks great. It's real bright with good black detail pops like a plasma TV, good old DLP snap.

I did watch it on the Silverstar because it's dark all day in the garage setup.

Ok I took light level readings-

Tuned down for Cinema 2D I get a whopping 33 foot candles.

Factory set for 3D mind you the video coloring looks exceptionally good at factory unreal the highest brightness on any projector I've had here, a killer 48 foot candles.

The Optoma HD81lv measured 27ftc, the Optoma H77 about 13ftc. Lets just put it this way this HD3300 is one bright projector.

Ftc to lumens a 106" diag zero gain screen you're looking at 1200 lumens tuned for 2D and 1680 lumens for 3D. Ofcourse after that you can times in the gain of your screen. Like the Silverstar 6x would be more than 6,000 lumens tuned for 2D video. One bright puppy.

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Nice and bright, exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks for the update.

Edit: Oh and btw, are you going to transclude your thoughts to the HD33 page on the sub-$3k forum? I doubt many of the sub-$3k members know about this thread over there.
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Having too much fun with the projector forgot about my own thread.

They sent me the prettier one, stats are the same.
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Having too much fun with the projector forgot about my own thread.

They sent me the prettier one, stats are the same.
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I envy you ! Believe it or not i have been refreshing this thread every hour to hear your feedback ! Please be kind and keep updating it through the weekend. I placed a pre-order on Amazon already !

What glasses are you using ? RF or DLP ? Could you try both and see if there is a any difference ? I personally olny tried DLP-link and am very happy as the Optomoa glasses are very bright and rarely lose lock and they are cheaper (~$60 vs $90 for RF) and big. I heard somewhere that 3D-dlp link messes up the blacks...although i haven't noticed it
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Looks like it is a nice pj. It would be nice to see an on/off cr increase.

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Looks like it is a nice pj. It would be nice to see an on/off cr increase.

sorry if this is dumb question...what is "on/off cr"

guitarman...do you notice any ghosting ? (my HD66 has NO ghosting with DLP-link glasses by the way)
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on/off contrast

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No ghosting at all, contrast coming I need to use colorfacts for that which I have, will do coming up.

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You can never have too much light for active shutter glasses. high power screens work great with 3D projectors.

Thanks for reviewing and posting your feedback.


In theory its possible its 2x brighter because its shuttering at 120 hz per eye, whereas older designs have different colorwheel design and limited to 60hz per eye. Optoma seems to be RGB, while H5360 is RedGreenBlueWhiteYellowCyan, RGBWYC, and in 3D , only RGBXXX is shown.I bet Optoma can do RGBRGB.

RGB LED is capable of this too, but its totally neglected in favor of bulb designs . Also the limiting factor with LED is the liquid crystal material of shutterglasses, I think that will be improved soon.

I am disheartened by Texas Instruments total neglect of LED 3D, so I'm saving for Apple laser TV now, not hopeful anymore about DLP.

Thanks for H5360 TI, its good enough, deserves upgrades.
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This is all very promising. I was going to buy an HD87, but now I will wait and what 3D is on DLP. Still no word on a 3D replacement for HD87.. X
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wow, i had no idea a 1080p 3d projector was coming out for $1499...kind of shocked. i planned on stretching my Epson 1080ub out for a couple more years...this may have me rethinking that.
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Hey folks,

Looks like we've finalized pricing on the HD8300 and HD3300. They should be available to ship in roughly two weeks.

Feel free to contact us for pricing!

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Hey folks,

Looks like we've finalized pricing on the HD8300 and HD3300. They should be available to ship in roughly two weeks.

Feel free to contact us for pricing!

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So AVS sells the Sony HW30, Panny AE7000 and the Optoma 8300 projectors?

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So AVS sells the Sony HW30, Panny AE7000 and the Optoma 8300 projectors?

Yes sir! along along with Mits and JVC units as well.

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OK - I will need to try to figure which one will work the best for me. But I will not muddle up this thread and may start another one. I will still most likely wait to see what else comes out at Cedia, but may call you tomorrow for prices.

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I plan to update my HT this year and will see what develops after CEDIA. My purchase will most probably be made through AVS.
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I plan to update my HT this year and will see what develops after CEDIA. My purchase will most probably be made through AVS.

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Good news for me on cable runs. My 25' didn't work with the Sony 3D blu ray player which was hooked through a Onkyo receiver. I ordered a 30' high speed cable and everything thrown into the receiver now works. So the high speed cables even longer can work for you.

I wasn't going to buy the HD3300 if I ran into 1.4a cable trouble. I had to test the Sony at first using a short high speed cable I had direct to the HD3300. Happy camper now.

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Good news for me on cable runs. My 25' didn't work with the Sony 3D blu ray player which was hooked through a Onkyo receiver. I ordered a 30' high speed cable and everything thrown into the receiver now works. So the high speed cables even longer can work for you.

I wasn't going to buy the HD3300 if I ran into 1.4a cable trouble. I had to test the Sony at first using a short high speed cable I had direct to the HD3300. Happy camper now.

yeah i had similar experience...50' worked better than 25' as it was thicker
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atabea posted this on another thread....looks incredible !

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A review of the HD33 is up at projector central.

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Thanks for the support guys!!! We really try to provide you all with great prices and more often than not, it turns out that we are the best price in town.

rgathright, i'll be around all day tomorrow!

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yeah i had similar experience...50' worked better than 25' as it was thicker

Same here big fat 25' non high speed was a no go, thin 30ft high speed works like a charm.

Hey I love great audio, I don't use the Onkyo 608 for audio, just as a video switcher. I use an Arcam for 5.1 audio. I tested an Arcam against my reference Marantz SR18 and HK7200, the Arcam destroyed both receivers. Ergo Onkyo does video, Arcam does audio.

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Pity about the lens shift, this could have been the perfect compliment to my Vango for a 3D only pj. Didn't Optoma make a short throw version of their bottom end 3D ready pj? If one of those were in the works for the 33 that could fit the bill.

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Pity about the lens shift, this could have been the perfect compliment to my Vango for a 3D only pj. Didn't Optoma make a short throw version of their bottom end 3D ready pj? If one of those were in the works for the 33 that could fit the bill.

You might want to look at the Mits HC7800.
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You might want to look at the Mits HC7800.

Quite a difference in price class there, or did I miss something? I can't justify that to watch a handful of movies and football games.

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Hey guys,

We are starting a preorder list for these projectors. If interested, please contact us right away.

Please note that if you are on the preorder list and provide CC info, we will not charge your card until the order is ready to ship. Before it ships, we will contact you and confirm the order then proceed with the charge.

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Initial thoughts are this is specatular even if Alice in Wonderland is 2D transferred to 3D. I couldn't get my wife away from the movie she wants me to get this 3D stuff now.

Out of the box the picture coloring looks great. It's real bright with good black detail pops like a plasma TV, good old DLP snap.

I did watch it on the Silverstar because it's dark all day in the garage setup.

Ok I took light level readings-

Tuned down for Cinema 2D I get a whopping 33 foot candles.

Factory set for 3D mind you the video coloring looks exceptionally good at factory unreal the highest brightness on any projector I've had here, a killer 48 foot candles.

The Optoma HD81lv measured 27ftc, the Optoma H77 about 13ftc. Lets just put it this way this HD3300 is one bright projector.

Ftc to lumens a 106" diag zero gain screen you're looking at 1200 lumens tuned for 2D and 1680 lumens for 3D. Ofcourse after that you can times in the gain of your screen. Like the Silverstar 6x would be more than 6,000 lumens tuned for 2D video. One bright puppy.

Hmmmm, projector central could only get 1049 lumens out of their HD33, I wonder if they got one with a bad lamp or something? I did notice that the HD3300 is rated at 1900 lumens where the HD33 is rated at 1800.....
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Guitarman, like others I am watching this thread with interest. Appreciate you doing the due diligence for us along with review(s) that are beginning to pop up. I have a few questions, apologize but I am new to the 3d topics and looking for some education. Looks like the 3d RF glasses from Optoma are yet to be released and may be the way to go. But when the specs say that you can use DLP link glasses as well, I imagine they mean backward compatibility with folks that have already invested in them. Does DLP link need an emitter as well (separate from the one that comes with this unit)? For someone like me with no 3d glasses, is it best for me to buy RF glasses?

Like some others (not all), I am wondering if the $500 premium for HD3300 is worth it. I am hoping that the default settings in HD33 and tweaks it offers is sufficient for my needs. As for warranty, even if a bulb blows in the next two years, I can probably get a new one for cheaper than warrantly. I watch maybe 2-5 hours per week, max. At the end of the day, I am trying to squeeze 3d in my budget (it was $1500 and I hadn't accounted for 4 glasses I am already thinking of purchasing now) rather than pay for extended warranty so look forward to others' thoughts on this and how they are approaching it. That darn black projector would be nice though. I have waited 2 years already but just maybe if I waited a couple more months for the price to drop, decisions, decisions...
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Bummer, actually not sure if this projector would work for me without lens shift, if I am interpreting the numbers from Optoma's distance calculator correctly. I have a real low ceiling. I can place the projector as far back as 14 feet, ceiling only, hoping to get 120"
(16:9 diag) but willing to settle for 100". Is it true that the top of the projected picture will be at a minimum 7" + 9.4" = 16.4"? With a screen height of 59" + 16.4" I end up with 75.4" and I only have 70" from top to bottom (unless I remove an outlet which is about 8" from the floor). Aarghhh. Am I missing something?
Edit: Looks like if I adjust the height to 54", my throw distance is between 12 and 14' and my screen size is 110". So, I should be ok if I can find a screen that is 110" (so far I have seen 100 and 120").
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