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I am trying to get my projector to turn on and off via the HDMI connection to my STR-DA5700ES receiver.

I have tried to enable all of the features as outlined in the manuals, HDMI Control on the projector and receiver enabled, enabling the HDMI auto power on feature on the projector. I also have the standby power set to standard on the projector as outlined in the manual.

When I enable the HDMI control on the projector I can see the receiver in the HDMI device list along with the connected sony BR player.

Turning the power on at the receiver has no effect on the projector.

If everything is turned off and I press the power button on the BR player the receiver turns on but not the projector.

Ideas????
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I am trying to get my projector to turn on and off via the HDMI connection to my STR-DA5700ES receiver.

I have tried to enable all of the features as outlined in the manuals, HDMI Control on the projector and receiver enabled, enabling the HDMI auto power on feature on the projector. I also have the standby power set to standard on the projector as outlined in the manual.

When I enable the HDMI control on the projector I can see the receiver in the HDMI device list along with the connected sony BR player.

Turning the power on at the receiver has no effect on the projector.

If everything is turned off and I press the power button on the BR player the receiver turns on but not the projector.

Ideas????
HDMI isn't good.

Last time I struggled with it I understood you can make other components turn on the projector but must use the projector to turn off the other components.

It's just not good really... you need a better plan.

For my own use I use Roomie Remote and everything I have is controlled via the network. (I have an RS232 to Wifi adapter on the projector to give it the network control ability.)
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HDMI isn't good.

Last time I struggled with it I understood you can make other components turn on the projector but must use the projector to turn off the other components.

It's just not good really... you need a better plan.

For my own use I use Roomie Remote and everything I have is controlled via the network. (I have an RS232 to Wifi adapter on the projector to give it the network control ability.)
Thanks....

I just spoke with Sony ES customer support.. They could not explain why but claimed that the operation was correct. You can turn the projector on but not off.. I am already using roomie so I will just get a serial to wifi adapter.
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Picked up a clearance HW30 - Good Deal?

Hi,

I just picked up a clearance HW30 for $1200. It came with the IR transmitter, but no glasses. Being familiar with Sony's SXRD projectors I figured this was a good price and I wouldn't get anything close to the same quality for the price. That all being said all current reviews and comparisons are for current models and you never know how things truly stack up to something old.

I guess my main question is, given the price I paid should I keep it. I have 30 days to return. I was looking at the Epson 5030 or the new Sony HW40. I understand both are well over 1K more and therefore I figured this was a great value purchase. However both projectors review-wise are better than the HW30. That then got me thinking if the models underneath these newer ones, being 2+ years newer technology might actually give the HW30 a run for it's money. For example the Epson 3020, which also comes with glasses, being a more current model is it close to the Sony HW30 or is the sony still superior. The Epson 3020 is/was on sale for $1399 so it would essentially be similar in price to the Sony since I will have to buy glasses for the Sony.

I do truly appreciate great PQ, and was ready to drop the $2500+, but being half the price I thought this seems like a smart purchase.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
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I have a similar question. I can currently get the 30ES on clearance for about 2/3 of the price of the 40ES and about half the price of the 55ES but I'm still not sure if it's a good deal since it's hard to find any comparisons between the 30ES and newer models. Contrast in 2D is my main concern. I currently have a defective F8500 plasma and I'm generally happy with its black levels so I would be happy with anything similar contrast-wise. But I'm not sure if this is a realistic expectation - this will be my first projector. The F8500 will of course be much brighter but I watch in a very dark room so can deal with the dimmer projector picture but I'm not sure how the black level of the 30ES would compare with a high-end modern plasma.

I have a couple of days to decide whether to try to get a replacement F8500 or go for the 30ES (or something in a similar price range) so any advice would be appreciated!
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Hi,

I just picked up a clearance HW30 for $1200. It came with the IR transmitter, but no glasses. Being familiar with Sony's SXRD projectors I figured this was a good price and I wouldn't get anything close to the same quality for the price. That all being said all current reviews and comparisons are for current models and you never know how things truly stack up to something old.

I guess my main question is, given the price I paid should I keep it. I have 30 days to return. I was looking at the Epson 5030 or the new Sony HW40. I understand both are well over 1K more and therefore I figured this was a great value purchase. However both projectors review-wise are better than the HW30. That then got me thinking if the models underneath these newer ones, being 2+ years newer technology might actually give the HW30 a run for it's money. For example the Epson 3020, which also comes with glasses, being a more current model is it close to the Sony HW30 or is the sony still superior. The Epson 3020 is/was on sale for $1399 so it would essentially be similar in price to the Sony since I will have to buy glasses for the Sony.

I do truly appreciate great PQ, and was ready to drop the $2500+, but being half the price I thought this seems like a smart purchase.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
It is a smart purchase. I love my 30ES and I bought it at $2400(brand new) almost a year ago.

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I have a similar question. I can currently get the 30ES on clearance for about 2/3 of the price of the 40ES and about half the price of the 55ES but I'm still not sure if it's a good deal since it's hard to find any comparisons between the 30ES and newer models. Contrast in 2D is my main concern. I currently have a defective F8500 plasma and I'm generally happy with its black levels so I would be happy with anything similar contrast-wise. But I'm not sure if this is a realistic expectation - this will be my first projector. The F8500 will of course be much brighter but I watch in a very dark room so can deal with the dimmer projector picture but I'm not sure how the black level of the 30ES would compare with a high-end modern plasma.

I have a couple of days to decide whether to try to get a replacement F8500 or go for the 30ES (or something in a similar price range) so any advice would be appreciated!
I say go 30Es.


To both of you, I have heard that the 55ES takes the picture to the next level with the RC (Reality Control) technology. Takes internal contrast enhancement to the next level. I have a Darbee on my 30ES. Throwing 11.5' on a 100" Screen Innovations screen.

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It is a smart purchase. I love my 30ES and I bought it at $2400(brand new) almost a year ago.



I say go 30Es.


To both of you, I have heard that the 55ES takes the picture to the next level with the RC (Reality Control) technology. Takes internal contrast enhancement to the next level. I have a Darbee on my 30ES. Throwing 11.5' on a 100" Screen Innovations screen.
We still have a few b stock HW30's left at a great price - it is a great projector for the money !

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Replacement Bulbs - Wide Price Variance

OK - so think I'm finally gonna replace the bulb after looking at the "Replace Lamp/Filter" message for about 6 months or so. (I have cleaned the filter several times).

I'm curious as to the advice of where to buy replacement bulbs.

Direct from Sony they are $370 for the "Breathe new life into your Sony home theater ES projector with this 200-watt ultra-high pressure replacement lamp compatible with projector models VPL-HW55ES, VPL-HW40ES, VPL-HW30ES, VPL-HW30AES, VPL-HW50ES and VPL-VW95ES."
http://store.sony.com/es-projector-replacement-lamp-zid27-LMPH202/cat-27-catid-All-TV-Lamps-Projector-Accessories

A more standard retailer (B&H Photo) has them for $289.99.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...nt_Lamp_f.html

However, on Amazon I see ones listed for as low as $50.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-LMPH202-R...words=lmp-h202

Anyone have any experience/advice on where to buy replacement Sony bulbs?

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Do not buy cheap " after market " lamps. You're not going to get the same quality lamp. Give us a call at AV Science for a good price on a real Sony OEM lamp.

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OK - so think I'm finally gonna replace the bulb after looking at the "Replace Lamp/Filter" message for about 6 months or so. (I have cleaned the filter several times).

I'm curious as to the advice of where to buy replacement bulbs.

Direct from Sony they are $370 for the "Breathe new life into your Sony home theater ES projector with this 200-watt ultra-high pressure replacement lamp compatible with projector models VPL-HW55ES, VPL-HW40ES, VPL-HW30ES, VPL-HW30AES, VPL-HW50ES and VPL-VW95ES."
http://store.sony.com/es-projector-replacement-lamp-zid27-LMPH202/cat-27-catid-All-TV-Lamps-Projector-Accessories

A more standard retailer (B&H Photo) has them for $289.99.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...nt_Lamp_f.html

However, on Amazon I see ones listed for as low as $50.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-LMPH202-R...words=lmp-h202

Anyone have any experience/advice on where to buy replacement Sony bulbs?
I suggest buying the OEM and buy it from AVS. I don't work for them. I've purchased my last two lamps from them though. Always buy the OEM.
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Price on this is back up. I got it at the $13.73 price so I ordered two. Not a good deal at $62.94 though.

Good price on 3D glasses if you need extras. I have the same style in large and they work perfectly with my HW30. I have the PS3 glasses and the image through the Xpand glasses is on par with but brighter than the PS3 glasses.


http://www.amazon.com/X104MX1BUNDLE-...words=xpand+3d

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Placed an order with AVScience earlier today for one of the b-stock units -- very excited as this is my first projector. Was on the fence with this or getting an Epson 8350 for less -- but liked the warranty on the Sony and read too many bad things about lamp issues, convergence, etc on the Epsons. Looking forward to getting is setup in the coming week once it arrives...

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OK - so think I'm finally gonna replace the bulb after looking at the "Replace Lamp/Filter" message for about 6 months or so. (I have cleaned the filter several times).

I'm curious as to the advice of where to buy replacement bulbs.

However, on Amazon I see ones listed for as low as $50.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-LMPH202-R...words=lmp-h202

Anyone have any experience/advice on where to buy replacement Sony bulbs?
I initially went with Amazon. My LMPH202 bulb was actually a LMPH201. I didn't realize it until 3 months later until I actually opened the box. The box was labeled LMPH202 so I never bothered opening it up sooner =( Going through the returns process, but not too sure if I'll get my money fully refunded.

I went with AVS on my second attempt.
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Motion on the 30es

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I haven't been able to try in in 3D, but I can't stand the motion flow in 2D, even on low. I get a major soap opera effect. I started watching 'Dark Knight' the other night with it on and eventually had to turn it off.

It does make me wonder though...is our reluctance to motion flow merely because we're so accustomed to watching video without it?
I just upgraded from a panasonic pt-ae700u and this weekend have finally been able to put the 30es through it's paces. Obviously it blows the older panny away in almost every respect, except one, motion. Certain high contrasty scenes with slow pans make the edges of objects jitter, to the point where I find it unwatchable. I have to activate FI (which I hate) to make the image watchable. Is anybody else experiencing this? Is it possibly a setup issue? I know I'm running 50 ' of 9 year old hdmi cable, but I wouldn't think that would be an issue. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


update...I was playing with the pj some more, and placed it into low lamp. the jitter was much less noticeable...I guess this pj is really lighting up my 106" screen and making jitter way more noticeable...at any rate...the pq is so much better with the FI turned off


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