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post #3481 of 3500 Old 11-23-2015, 06:35 AM
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My HW30ES projector has issue with the brightness, the picture is washed out! reducing brightness setting didn't help, the contrast is terrible and no black level at all, grey-scale test failed!

I have reset all settings to default, lamp hours is 680 hours, does anyone know how to fix it?

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Sorry to hear. Not much activity here anymore as the HW30 is 4 years old.

What does grey-scale test failed mean? You mean instead of a ramp of 16 or so gray values, it's all the same?

How does it look without any source connected and you bring up the built in screen/options? Is the text displayed normally or does it look bad?

I hope I'm wrong, but if it looks bad without any source connected then you may be in for a repair. If the text looks normal, you should consider checking our input source.
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Sorry to hear. Not much activity here anymore as the HW30 is 4 years old.

What does grey-scale test failed mean? You mean instead of a ramp of 16 or so gray values, it's all the same?

How does it look without any source connected and you bring up the built in screen/options? Is the text displayed normally or does it look bad?

I hope I'm wrong, but if it looks bad without any source connected then you may be in for a repair. If the text looks normal, you should consider checking our input source.
I use colorHCFR and x-rite meter to perform greyscale calibration, I was not able to get 2% above black bar in the IRE 0 to disappear! and the greyscale calibration result is terrible!

Without source connect, the blue background is light blue, the pattern color is dark green, text is displayed normally and clear, just the entire image is washed out and very low contrast! I have changed two media players (popcorn hour A200 and Apple TV) and also tested with my laptop, all were having same issue!
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Did you do all your calibration from the user menu or did you tweak from the service menu?
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Hey Kidding,

Assuming your not just Kidding with your posts, What's your location maybe someone near by could take a look.

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Did you do all your calibration from the user menu or did you tweak from the service menu?
I did the calibration from the user menu

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Hey Kidding,

Assuming your not just Kidding with your posts, What's your location maybe someone near by could take a look.

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Thanks for the help, but I stay in Malaysia, I don't think there is anyone in this forum nearby my location

Actually I'm going to send to Sony local service center, I suspect it could be due to severe light leakage. I projected it to white wall and I could see the lights on the outer edge of full HD image.
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Don't know the answer. However, if you are happy with the image, I'd not replace the lamp. I would clean the filter either way. New lamp comes with new filter...
So, the warning is pretty much a function of lamp hours?

I noticed that the greys aren't great. Not sure if this is real or just an imagination.
Could this be a sign of a lamp needing replacement?

BTW. How easy is it to get a genuine replacement?
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So, the warning is pretty much a function of lamp hours?

I noticed that the greys aren't great. Not sure if this is real or just an imagination.
Could this be a sign of a lamp needing replacement?

BTW. How easy is it to get a genuine replacement?
I don't know if anyone knows for sure. I do know that my lamp has been poor (flickering) and needed replacement and the PJ didn't tell me to replace it. I suspect it's by hours but I honestly don't know.

Trivial to get a genuine replacement. Call Mike @ AVS... Great guy.
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My HW30ES projector has issue with the brightness, the picture is washed out! reducing brightness setting didn't help, the contrast is terrible and no black level at all, grey-scale test failed!

I have reset all settings to default, lamp hours is 680 hours, does anyone know how to fix it?

Thanks
I have the exact same problem with my unit. Very washed out image (like a white veil) in bright scenes. Dark scenes aren't washed out but the contrast is very low.

The PJ environement hasn't changed since I got it (at around 700hrs, 2nd hand). Filter and lens are kept clean. Isn't temp. related as ambiant is low and the pj has unobstructed cooling vents & setting the fan on high doesn't do a thing.

Tried fiddling with contrast & brightness controls but couldn't get a satisfying solution. For ref, i'm in Cinema 1 stock mode with auto 1 / slow iris (tweaked to 250 - 500 by service menu, but reverting to stock values doesn't fix anything)

I suspect the lamp is failing.

It's the PJ first lamp, around the 1500 h mark.

Lamp started flickering badly in low mode at around 1200h which was resolved by going to high mode.
Now the lamp starts to (seldomly) flicker in high too.

I have bought on ebay an LMP-H202 bare bulb (from Disc****merc**, a supposedly Philips authorized-reseller) for $60 ex. shipping. No need to cash in high $$$ for the plastic bits the lamp is attached to...

I'll get back to you if this fix the problem.


TL;DR: i think lamp is bad. Replacement on the way. Will post results.
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well, that was indeed the lamp. 100% fixed.

a few notes:

Bulb fitting in the stock lmp-h202 housing is very, very easy.
Really not worth splurging for an original sony or even alternate housing unless you are afraid of using a screwdriver !


As @kscleo already hinted in this thread, the newer (& genuine) philips top c uhp bulb suitable for the lmp-h202 got a longer arc than the original one (which was 0.8mm and is no longer available -except old stock).

My bet is that the 0.8mm is no longer produced because of the (way too) many arc-wandering (=flicker) instances seen on low hour bulbs (some flickered as low as 300hrs !!)

Nonetheless, I will still burn-in the new bulb in high only mode for the 1st 100hrs. I won't touch 3D mode either because of the shady bulb-pulsing drive mode it uses. Better get those electrodes well struck before going in low ;D !
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My Monster 3D glasses is dead. Any suggestions on replacement?

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My Monster 3D glasses is dead. Any suggestions on replacement?

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PS3 3D Glasses.

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PS3 3D Glasses.
That's what I use.

I think the monster glasses are better though. I get reflections in my PS3 glasses and I think the monsters shielded them.

Optima glasses are made by the company who made the monsters
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Thanks Pacman9270 and Brian.

I remotely recall in a previous post that the Estar 3D glasses might be similar to Monster, but couldn't locate the post now. I am wondering whether it is this one?

http://www.amazon.com/EStar-America-.../dp/B00D39AUCI

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Why go so expensive with the glasses? Is there that much of a difference?

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Why go so expensive with the glasses? Is there that much of a difference?
I think the monster/estar/optima glasses control reflected light better. But I've gone to all PS3 glasses for my setup. They are cheap and easy going.
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Hey guys. Would anyone here be able to tell me how the HW30ES compares to the HW55ES or even the Epson 5020UB/5030UB in terms of black level? Is there a slight difference or are we talking night and day? There's definitely a big difference in the price so I'm wondering if I should pull the trigger on the cheaper HW30 or rather wait for the newer models to drop in price (this will be my first projector). Also I'm assuming the 30ES must have a better black level than the 40ES thanks to the DI? My setup will be in a light controlled room so black level is definitely a big deal
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Depends on what you're paying. I love my 30ES. Saw a 40ES and 55ES and they look great but I believe mine looks just as good. HOWEVER, I do have a Darbee connected to mine to help improve contrast. I believe they are a little brighter as well.
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Also, IMHO, I Epson's don't look good in Cinema mode. Unless you are putting the Epson in a bright room, I would steer away from them. But there are a ton of people who rave about their projectors.
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Hi all

i will buy used HW30ES
but I need to change the bulb

i see LMP-H202 bulb with Different Prices
124$ From amazon HERE
142$ HERE
322$ ! HERE
145$ HERE
142$ HERE
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Hi,

Did anyone record the default service menu settings for panel drivers?

I think I did but at this point I have no idea where that information is.

When I calibrate I adjust the panel drivers as well as the bias and gain settings and now I'm curious about where they generally were before I started tweaking.

My panel Driver settings are R 95 G95 B55. I'm not advocating these numbers I'm instead trying to ask others in order to find out how for out of the ball park those numbers are. I get a fine calibrated image and stuff... I'm just wondering if those are very far from typical defaults.

The HW30 is my forth Sony PJ and the second digital SXRD PJ. I had a great time with my VW60 and eventually had the service manual which I didn't use for much but it was handy in figuring out how the "default" values were established at service centers when boards were replaced.

I'm tempted to order the Service manual for the HW30 just to have and I found 2 websites that claim to have it. One place it's $10 and the other looks better but it's $17. Sony recommended a third site called TrueManuals and I"m waiting to get a quote from them.

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