Originally Posted by kutlow
Zombie I cant wait to hear your simple answer to this question. Is the Sony HW30 better than the JVC rs40? If you want you can pm me the answer. I know AVS cant comment since they sell both units but I need to buy a pj like now since my Theater is shut down.
My fear in answering this question is that I wouldn't want to be responsible for you making a decision that may not align with my particular likes of the Sony HW30.
With my disclaimer aside, I have a few more first impressions after some more viewing last night.
- I like the built in Color settings - Out of the box (either 2d or 3d) I don't feel a need to go running for the Chroma 5 Pro, laptop and an evening of 0-100% screens with Tom's excellent sofware. Unless someone is really picky, I think the majority of folks would be quite pleased with the stock settings for color. This is important to me because I had to make serious adjustments to my gray scale with my RS50 with 2 different lamps. Big grayscale adjustments = loss of lumens right from the start.
- Gamma Settings - with 8 or so different built in Gamma settings, there is guaranteed to be one you like. There's about 3 that I am going back and forth between. There are further adjustments you can make for black and white levels.
- Contrast / Shadow Detail / Black Floor - Surprisingly good. In tough mixed contrast scenes, it was on par with the RS50. The iris is undetectable which is great (something I was nervous about) and works well. There are only certain scenes where you can see the black floor is better on the RS50, but not by as much as I thought. The JVC is dimmer than my Sony so it may not even be a fair comparison.
- 3D Glasses - I am not winning here. Xpand 103's don't work consistantly, and my favorite 3D glasses, the Monster Vision 3D's aren't working anywhere near as well as Sony's glasses. I don't mind the Sony glasses and I wear prescription glasses, but the MV3D's are very comfortable and light. There are times I forgot they are on.
- Ghosting - There may be some voodoo going on with the Glasses, but whatever it is, it's working well. The HW30 is very close to the ghost-free image folks have been bragging about on the $500 Acer 5360. Of course the Sony has better color, sharper and better contrast. The question is, will it hold up as the lamp ages?
- 3D flicker- . Some people don't see it. I am hyper sensitive to refresh rates. The Acer 5360 with the 60hz per eye refresh was nice. I was always able to notice it on the JVC. Not a dealbreaker, but still conscious of the slight flicker, especially noticeable on light backgrounds. The Sony with the MF low 1 setting is nice and solid. No detection of flicker and it's a relief on the eyes.
- Motion handling - I can see why Kraine was so excited about this. There are rare instances where I would try CMD1 on the JVC, but felt it was too obvious and didn't use it much. Motion Flow @ low level in contrast adds 'just enough' to smooth out the 24P video, but not so much that it's annoying. Keep in mind that opinions will vary widely on this subjective topic.
btw, I am not saying it's completely ghost free, but in the toughest of scenes, it's quite subtle (and can be further adjusted with the settings), that for me it's a non issue with 3D blurays. I did watch some SBS (Toy Story 3 and Nightmare before Xmas 720p SBS) and it looks ok. There is some mild ghosting. Personally, I don't bother with these SBS, I think the IQ is too soft when your used to 3D frame packed blurays.
@Space 2001 - I am not much of a console gamer but I played Crysis 2 in 3D on the Sony last night. I am too old for these Xbox controllers, I need a mouse and keyboard with the Quake 2 engine running on my Voodoo 2 passthru 3D card.
The image reminds of SBS MKV's.... tooo soft. The 3D effect is cool, but it would be a heck of lot better if it was 1080P full frame 3D. Ghosting stands outs, but not as much as it does on my RS50. It can be tuned with the 3D setting to almost eliminate it, but the softness would bother me too much. I also can't sense any noticeable lag that would prevent me from playing. I was in 2D mode for a while and the action was fast, no sense of the lag. Someone i'm sure will do the correct measurements to show the exact lag.
imo, the projector to beat for console gaming is going to be the upcoming Optoma 750GT. HMDI 1.4, 720P native res AND the most important addition, a 3Pin 3D VESA port for 'bring your own IR or RF emitter and Glasses'. This opens many options. I think this projector is going to be bright, handle SBS with near perfection, ghost free and run any glasses you want. For the price, I would buy it for the only purpose of 3D console games. Plus the lamps for those lower end DLP's are always dirt cheap, so let 'em burn all night long.
After a few nights, I think the Sony HW30 is a nice projector. I do miss the auto focus, zoom and lens shift, but the positives in the 'out of the box IQ' & quality 3D more than make up for these luxuries.
I don't recall Sony owners complaining about the dimming lamp syndrome of 2011, so I am hoping this Sony lamp lives a nice, long life with a decent dimming rate. I felt like I had to give Sony a chance given my dealings with JVC recently. Competition is always a good thing and keeps companies on their toes when there are other choices.
With the Mitsubishi HC7800 and new 1080p DLP Optoma w/ lens shift coming out soon, this price range is going to be filled with quality projectors at a great price. I can't wait to see what comes out in the late fall.