Official Sony VPL-HW30(A)ES Owners Thread - Page 7 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 4Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #181 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 11:15 AM
AVS Special Member
 
tigerfan33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked: 26
Mark. I checked with UPS.
You were right.
3 days to Alabama.
tigerfan33 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #182 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 11:23 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
William's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 8,406
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked: 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by browerjs View Post

Yea I saw that... I was trying to find a pdf of the product manual. I'm guessing it doesn't exist.

Owners Manual (also linked in the OP).
William is offline  
post #183 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 11:50 AM
AVS Special Member
 
kutlow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wetumpka, Al
Posts: 2,363
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Mark. I checked with UPS.
You were right.
3 days to Alabama.

what part Of Alabama? If your close id like to demo it?
kutlow is offline  
post #184 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 11:51 AM
AVS Special Member
 
tigerfan33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by kutlow View Post


what part Of Alabama? If your close id like to demo it?

Just south of Birmingham.
tigerfan33 is offline  
post #185 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:25 PM
AVS Special Member
 
zombie10k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,551
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 213 Post(s)
Liked: 332
let's sell Kutlow an HW30.. a theater without a projector is a sad thing.

I wish the Sony glasses were readily available. I need at least 2 more.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

 


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

zombie10k is online now  
post #186 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:27 PM
AVS Special Member
 
rgathright's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Pearl River, La.
Posts: 4,430
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I am really surprised so many are jumping on the HW30 so close to Cedia. I was wanting to see what else comes out, but now am wondering if I am wasting my time. Is there something that I missed that is making so many buy the HW30 prior to more reviews and what is coming out?

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - SUPER BOWL XLIV CHAMPIONS
rgathright is offline  
post #187 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:28 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tigerfan33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

let's sell Kutlow an HW30.. a theater without a projector is a sad thing.

I wish the Sony glasses were readily available. I need at least 2 more.

He's more than welcome to see mine. I will be viewing on a HP screen and not interested in 3D. Getting it mostly for the FI for sports.
tigerfan33 is offline  
post #188 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:35 PM
AVS Special Member
 
zombie10k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,551
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 213 Post(s)
Liked: 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by rgathright View Post

I am really surprised so many are jumping on the HW30 so close to Cedia. I was wanting to see what else comes out, but now am wondering if I am wasting my time. Is there something that I missed that is making so many buy the HW30 prior to more reviews and what is coming out?

There are 3 alternative that I can see at this price range. The Panasonic LCD, the Mitsubishi HC7800 and the Optoma 8300HD. (Both 3D 1080P DLP w/ lens shift).

The Sony received early raves from Kraine and Cine4home, plus ball-busting enthusiasts like myself and a few other early adopters. The price, including the 3D emitter + 2 glasses hit the 'impulse' buy for a bunch of folks. I demo'd it to a friend the other night and he had to order one right away. He almost spent the same $$ on a 65" TV before seeing the Sony.

with that said, I am still curious to see how the Panasonic and the 2 DLP's perform. The DLP's should be near perfect for ghost-free SBS and Xbox 360 3D SBS.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

 


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

zombie10k is online now  
post #189 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:36 PM
AVS Special Member
 
zombie10k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,551
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 213 Post(s)
Liked: 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

He's more than welcome to see mine. I will be viewing on a HP screen and not interested in 3D. Getting it mostly for the FI for sports.

it comes with the 3D emitter and glasses.. comon, you have to at least try it! If not, sell me the glasses ASAP.

ps. Long live the HP screen!


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

 


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

zombie10k is online now  
post #190 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:42 PM
Advanced Member
 
Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Hotlanta, GA
Posts: 852
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.
Ranger is offline  
post #191 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:53 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tigerfan33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

Cough cough......dust blobs.

Had on on my Epson. I will never go LCD again no matter what great features it might have.
tigerfan33 is offline  
post #192 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:54 PM
AVS Special Member
 
browerjs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Beavercreek, OH
Posts: 1,994
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

The one thing I wasn't sure of in the review was if it was comparing it to the HW30 or not... Guess we'll have to wait for the shootout...

XBL GT: DMBFiredancer
browerjs is offline  
post #193 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:55 PM
AVS Special Member
 
tigerfan33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post


it comes with the 3D emitter and glasses.. comon, you have to at least try it! If not, sell me the glasses ASAP.

ps. Long live the HP screen!

How much?
tigerfan33 is offline  
post #194 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 12:58 PM
Advanced Member
 
Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Hotlanta, GA
Posts: 852
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Cough cough......dust blobs.

Had on on my Epson. I will never go LCD again no matter what great features it might have.

yeah, I forgot about dust blobs. Just got one on my Pro8100. I hate it !!
Ranger is offline  
post #195 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 01:06 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Grubert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

...even though their "preferred viewing mode" only gives 526 lumens - and with lamp at high and minimum zoom!

Evan Powell hyping Panasonic. What else is new.

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
Grubert is offline  
post #196 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 01:10 PM
Advanced Member
 
Eternal_Sunshine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 502
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Well, the "Normal" mode, which always had very acceptable colours in previous Pana models, is up to 1300 lumens. Should be great for 3D!
Eternal_Sunshine is offline  
post #197 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 01:12 PM
Senior Member
 
Chuck Anstey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Newnan, Georgia
Posts: 256
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

There are 3 alternative that I can see at this price range. The Panasonic LCD, the Mitsubishi HC7800 and the Optoma 8300HD. (Both 3D 1080P DLP w/ lens shift).

Zombie,
Do you not include the JVC because it is a bit higher price point?

I have been following these threads and your reviews and I was wondering:

What new features/improvements (if any) do you think JVC has to do to the RS40 to arguably retain "Best overall projector under $5K"? Let's assume that the bulb issue was a "save a buck" mistake, lesson learned, fixed, move on and the RS40 doesn't have CMS so no issues there. From your posts it sounds like you think the Sony is a better overall projector than the RS40 for the features/qualities you value. Others may have a different opinion.
Chuck Anstey is offline  
post #198 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 01:29 PM
AVS Special Member
 
zombie10k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,551
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 213 Post(s)
Liked: 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger View Post

I just read Projectorcentral's review on the Panny...I think I am holding out for it..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pana...tor_review.htm

Not only does the AE7000 represent a major step beyond the AE4000 in picture quality, it is a step beyond so-called "higher end" 1080p projectors. Viewed side by side it will outperform some competing products that currently sell for up to triple the price. And most of these competing units do not have the array of features found on the AE7000.

I am trying not to be offensive to PC, but that is NO review imo. It's a subjective mix of opinion and marketing info. There are zero measurements (beside lumens) to validate any of the claims. I want to see ON/OFF, ANSI, Gray scale (out of the box) and Primary and secondary color measurements. That's a real review in my opinion.

I would wait for Kraine or Cine4home to post their impressions. They tell it like it is (good or bad) and have the factual measurements to back up their claims.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Anstey View Post

Zombie,
Do you not include the JVC because it is a bit higher price point?

I have been following these threads and your reviews and I was wondering:

What new features/improvements (if any) do you think JVC has to do to the RS40 to arguably retain "Best overall projector under $5K"? Let's assume that the bulb issue was a "save a buck" mistake, lesson learned, fixed, move on and the RS40 doesn't have CMS so no issues there. From your posts it sounds like you think the Sony is a better overall projector than the RS40 for the features/qualities you value. Others may have a different opinion.

Chuck, I can't say much publicly, but imo, JVC isn't interested in hearing from their customers.

I can't recommend the current RS40 for the lamp issues alone. I will say that I liked my RS40 better than the RS50. The color was better out of the box and brighter as well.

They would have to prove themselves with a rock solid lamp, increase the refresh rates of the panels, find a way to reduce the warm up time for watching 3D (a known issue agree upon by most owners), reduce ghosting as the lamp ages, program a quality FI in 3D mode, etc.

it's a shame because it has some very nice virtues as well, but I have to look at the entire 'package' which imo at this time, the Sony trumps the JVC (with it's current version). Hopefully they are listening and will make a big improvement with the 2.0 product in the late fall.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

 


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

zombie10k is online now  
post #199 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 01:37 PM
AVS Special Member
 
kutlow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wetumpka, Al
Posts: 2,363
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

He's more than welcome to see mine. I will be viewing on a HP screen and not interested in 3D. Getting it mostly for the FI for sports.

That would be nice. Then you could demo my pro audio Theater. I have a complete Danley Sound Labs Speaker system with Crest Pro Audio Amps.

2 Danley Sh50 Flagship Speakers used as RF LF




1 Danley SH69 Center Channel



3 Danley DTS -10 Subwoofers


4 Danley SH100C Surrounds






2 Crest Pro 9200 Amps to power the 3 DTS 10 SUBS. Not shown in this pic is 3 Crest Pro 8200 used to power LF,RF,Side and rear surrounds


1 Marants Av 7500 Processor


Here is the RS40 That I had
kutlow is offline  
post #200 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 01:51 PM
AVS Special Member
 
HoustonHoyaFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 20
Please remember some of us may be checking this thread on a phone looking for HW30 info!
HoustonHoyaFan is offline  
post #201 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 02:20 PM
Member
 
nestor87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 72
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Just picked up my HW30 from AVS yesterday. It looks outstanding. I was worried about sharpness because I'm replacing a 1080p DLP (optoma hd80) that was increasingly unreliable. Nothing to worry about, it turns out. It's very sharp across the screen.

A question: I ceiling mounted the projector, but I find that to avoid any keystoning, I have to angle the lens up several degrees. My screen is mounted flat to the wall, and the digital keystone correction is turned off, so that's not the issue. Is this normal? You'd think leveling the projector would result in an image that's square to the wall on that axis.
nestor87 is offline  
post #202 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 02:54 PM
AVS Special Member
 
kutlow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wetumpka, Al
Posts: 2,363
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by nestor87 View Post
Just picked up my HW30 from AVS yesterday. It looks outstanding. I was worried about sharpness because I'm replacing a 1080p DLP (optoma hd80) that was increasingly unreliable. Nothing to worry about, it turns out. It's very sharp across the screen.

A question: I ceiling mounted the projector, but I find that to avoid any keystoning, I have to angle the lens up several degrees. My screen is mounted flat to the wall, and the digital keystone correction is turned off, so that's not the issue. Is this normal? You'd think leveling the projector would result in an image that's square to the wall on that axis.
uuhhh ooo a bug..call Orkin
kutlow is offline  
post #203 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 03:10 PM
Toe
AVS Addicted Member
 
Toe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 13,090
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 116 Post(s)
Liked: 459
Quote:
Originally Posted by rgathright View Post
I am really surprised so many are jumping on the HW30 so close to Cedia. I was wanting to see what else comes out, but now am wondering if I am wasting my time. Is there something that I missed that is making so many buy the HW30 prior to more reviews and what is coming out?
I am a bit surprised as well to be honest. Sounds like the Sony is one nice projector, but Cedia is right around the corner. I am not buying anything until I hear about the RS40 replacement as well as whatever else will be released in the next few months or so. One thing is for sure.......this year is a MUCH harder decision than last as far as the under 5k 3d projector market is concerned! Lots of good options to consider.

Kutlow,

Can I come over? I would LOVE to hear your audio setup!

JVC 3D: Been there, done that, bought a DLP
Toe is offline  
post #204 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 03:13 PM
AVS Special Member
 
CT_Wiebe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 6,437
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
nestor87 -- You have vertical lens shift on the Sony!!! Level your HW30 and use the lens shift to square up the image.

I can understand your overlooking that feature, since your HD80 had a fixed offset.

- Claus {non-Santa model}
CT_Wiebe is offline  
post #205 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 03:15 PM
Member
 
nestor87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 72
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by kutlow

uuhhh ooo a bug..call Orkin
Can any owners weigh in on whether this is normal? Should I be seeking an exchange?
nestor87 is offline  
post #206 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 03:22 PM
AVS Special Member
 
HoustonHoyaFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,964
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 20
Have you tried adjusting the lens shift as suggested?
HoustonHoyaFan is offline  
post #207 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 03:26 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
mark haflich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: brookeville, maryland, usa
Posts: 19,934
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 443 Post(s)
Liked: 488
Kutlow. Quit trying to be funny. We are in proper mechanical set up mode and nowhere where one can conclude there is an optical defect.

Walls are not always at a perfect 90 degrees to the ceiling or floor. One must make the surface of the projector lens parallel to the screen surface. Put up a white full screen and zoom the image down to a little smaller than the screen viewing surface and adjust the mount to put up a rectangle that parallels the respective screen edges. Use the lens shift to center the image rectangle as needed. Call me if you have questions.

Mark Haflich

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

call me at: 240 876 2536
mark haflich is online now  
post #208 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 03:33 PM
AVS Special Member
 
kutlow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Wetumpka, Al
Posts: 2,363
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Am I understanding this right that in 2D or 3D There is NOT a vertical stretch option in the Sony HW30 Menue for those of us that use a external Anamorphic Lens for 2.40 scope? The JVC RS40 will vertical stretch in 2D but not 3D.
kutlow is offline  
post #209 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 03:33 PM
Member
 
ratdogg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: san diego
Posts: 43
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by nestor87 View Post
Just picked up my HW30 from AVS yesterday. It looks outstanding. I was worried about sharpness because I'm replacing a 1080p DLP (optoma hd80) that was increasingly unreliable. Nothing to worry about, it turns out. It's very sharp across the screen.

A question: I ceiling mounted the projector, but I find that to avoid any keystoning, I have to angle the lens up several degrees. My screen is mounted flat to the wall, and the digital keystone correction is turned off, so that's not the issue. Is this normal? You'd think leveling the projector would result in an image that's square to the wall on that axis.
Nestor, I found it was necessary to angle the projector downward (i.e. down at the front) very slightly from flat to get the picture totally square without keystoning. This was necessary with the VW50 too. My projector is ceiling mounted about 11ft from the screen, and maybe 12-15" above it. The screen and the ceiling are very vertical and horizontal.
ratdogg is offline  
post #210 of 3310 Old 08-16-2011, 04:25 PM
Advanced Member
 
jmalto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 996
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
I noticed a few people posting in the GA area (Atlanta specifically) you are welcome to drop by for a quicking viewing if you would like if it will help you make a decision, just PM me to setup a time/date.

Kut - You are my hero, I want the exact setup you have I have JBL Pro cinema speakers all the way around for a 9.2 setup, 2 DTS-10's, and 2 custom-built 18" MBM's but I know the Danley stuff would kill it.
jmalto is offline  
Reply Digital Hi-End Projectors - $3,000+ USD MSRP

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off