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http://www.avmagazine.it/news/videoproiettori/nab-proiettore-sony-4k-60p-vpl-gt100_7895.html

can this projector considered the successor of wv 1000?
or could be just a prelude to next 4k projector (hpefully lampless) from Sony that
could be announced in September?

probably... I'm dr:Deaming


http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-VPLGT100/


its a pro machine

Laser is on it way though.
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http://timescapes.org/4k/about_the_movie.aspx

First 4K content on memory stick & hard drive that I have seen retail.
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its a pro machine

Laser is on it way though.

I think Sony will wait 2014 to release the new laser 4k with the, upcoming hdmi 2.0...
They might announce it at ifa/cedia?
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The machine is basically a 1000ES that can use the second HDMI input in tandem with the first to feed the machine and display 4K at 60, The 1000ES is limited to a single HDMI at a time and to 4K at 24 or 30. The 60 machine is twice the price of the 10000ES and it is a precursor to nothing. This is very very old news and has been posted several times before. Likewise the timescapes film on 4k memory stick or hard drive and the top of the line 4k version is pretty expensive and has a lot of time lapse images. Look for it to be included for free in the Redray player.

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Agreed Oz. And I doubt a Tablet (to police it) comes with this model with it being 699. And Sony would probably like to sell to other 4K brand TVs as well. When they start Streaming they could make more. And if the off chance happens and they screw us we will just file a class action lawsuit. No biggie. biggrin.gif

Some a bit different but ironic to with content and Sony products. I'd forgotten I'd set up my living room HX850 LCD with the USUnlocked VPN IP address until a software update came through yesterday. So after it updated I noticed both Hulu Plus and Amazon streaming were there in the menus. So I went about authorising the TV. bout 5 mins of fiddling around online and sure enough both services are now fully functional for me here in Oz. Not that I need those streaming services via my smart TV as I'd rather use it via PC, Oppo, or even PS3 into the 1000 when I really want to use them -which is rarely. I agree Joe. Really don't think Sony will over police the 4K playback system and so true, are they going to align their content only with their TV hardware, seems a bit too short sighted, better to maximize their content dollars in a narrow market like 4K than to restrict poss earnings.
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http://timescapes.org/4k/about_the_movie.aspx

First 4K content on memory stick & hard drive that I have seen retail.

I bought the USB. prob one of the few. Biggest waste of time ever. I'd rather watch Blu ray 'Fireplaces' lol ! Plus on top the encoding they used to put in on to 32gig USB was crap, artifacts galore.

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Can't believe they are still plugging that "Timecraps" I mean scapes. biggrin.gif

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Can't believe they are still plugging that "Timecraps" I mean scapes. biggrin.gif

Haha "Yawn-scapes"...

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Hi guys, can VW1000 owner please share their thought on the VW1000 compared to a JVC higher end model (like the X75 or X95) when the main focus is watching 1080p content? Does the VW1000 with upscaling enabled completely blows away the JVC?

I ask this because I have a X75 atm and I can upgrade to the VW1000 for a good deal. I only do this investement if the VW1000 will blow my socks off compared to my X75.........
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To me, yes especially coupled with a reference quality screen, specifically a 1.0 or thereabouts screen that is very very smooth. Everything you will watch will be displayed with over 8 million pixels being on the screen at one time unlike the JVC with e shift.


I am not inferring that the JVC is bad, it is a very fine projector but for many reasons I greatly prefer the Sony. No whether I would say yopu will be blown away, that'
s a judgment call only you can make. Its been a long long time since I don't change projectors every few months and I have had the Sony now for over a year and I have absolutely no desire to replace it..

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Does the vw1000 do tripple flash in 3d or does it work like the vw95 and hw50 (which means 96hz/48 per eye)
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So it does 3d the same like the hw50 which means 48hz per eye?
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Had Jeff Meier over last night from AccuCal to calibrate my new Sony projector. It was fun to watch him do his magic with the video. He measured 17 Ft. Lamberts of light with the low bulb setting and amazing 24 Ft. Lamberts in the high mode on a 150" screen.eek.gif Since 14 Ft Lamberts is the THX recommendations he left in the low setting. As you know this will also help extend my bulb life and create less heat so it will be easier on my projector.

Jeff sees a lot of different projectors in his line of work and he simply loves what this Sony can do from a video source. He commented on how uniform the color was through out the screen and how Sony seems to nail so many things well with this projector.

I was happy with the end result and recommend getting a pro in to tweek one's system to get the most for what you bought.

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Yep - mine has stellar uniformity. I continue to be pleased and amazed by the picture. Really my only complaint is that its the only shipping Sony consumer SXRD projector that doesn't use the pulsing light method for 3d. The HW50 I had in my theater recently to compare was brighter in 3D than the 1000.

Oh well, though. 2d is amazing!
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Had Jeff Meier over last night from AccuCal to calibrate my new Sony projector. It was fun to watch him do his magic with the video. He measured 17 Ft. Lamberts of light with the low bulb setting and amazing 24 Ft. Lamberts in the high mode on a 150" screen.eek.gif Since 14 Ft Lamberts is the THX recommendations he left in the low setting. As you know this will also help extend my bulb life and create less heat so it will be easier on my projector.

Jeff sees a lot of different projectors in his line of work and he simply loves what this Sony can do from a video source. He commented on how uniform the color was through out the screen and how Sony seems to nail so many things well with this projector.

I was happy with the end result and recommend getting a pro in to tweek one's system to get the most for what you bought.

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Well, I'm now part of the club.............just purchased my 1000 from AVS and am still contemplating screen size............

You're using a 150" wide or diagonal screen in what ratio? I'm thinking 12" wide with 4k material but am concerned about light. Looks like my throw will be approximately 17' which is cutting it close with this projector. I like a bright picture due to age........eye sight.........and other various undisclosed reasons!! smile.gif
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I m still in doubt whether I should go for the VW1000 (I now have the JVC X75) or not. I ve seen a demo last week and they only showed 2D 1080p Blu-Ray content (upscaled to 4K). To me the most impressive about the VW1000 was the (3D) depth that the image brought. The only thing that keeps me from doing the upgrade is that the 3D on the Sony is 48Hz/eye just like the HW50 and VW95 do it (correct?). If so, this will give me the same headaches like the VW95 and HW50 do. And besides this I m also 'concerned' about the upcomming 4K standard. If it will be HDMI 2.0 or something like that the VW1000 will be totaly useless if Sony cannot upgrade it......
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Had Jeff Meier over last night from AccuCal to calibrate my new Sony projector. It was fun to watch him do his magic with the video. He measured 17 Ft. Lamberts of light with the low bulb setting and amazing 24 Ft. Lamberts in the high mode on a 150" screen. Since 14 Ft Lamberts is the THX recommendations he left in the low setting. As you know this will also help extend my bulb life and create less heat so it will be easier on my projector.

Jeff sees a lot of different projectors in his line of work and he simply loves what this Sony can do from a video source. He commented on how uniform the color was through out the screen and how Sony seems to nail so many things well with this projector.

I was happy with the end result and recommend getting a pro in to tweek one's system to get the most for what you bought.

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Jeff does a great job. Enjoy your VW1000 - I bet it looks awesome after being calibrated !!

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I m still in doubt whether I should go for the VW1000 (I now have the JVC X75) or not. I ve seen a demo last week and they only showed 2D 1080p Blu-Ray content (upscaled to 4K). To me the most impressive about the VW1000 was the (3D) depth that the image brought. The only thing that keeps me from doing the upgrade is that the 3D on the Sony is 48Hz/eye just like the HW50 and VW95 do it (correct?). If so, this will give me the same headaches like the VW95 and HW50 do. And besides this I m also 'concerned' about the upcomming 4K standard. If it will be HDMI 2.0 or something like that the VW1000 will be totaly useless if Sony cannot upgrade it......

The big question is when will a new standard actually be adopted and widely available ? When will actual 4K content be not just available, but enough of it so that there is something worth watching in 4K ? Paralysis by analysis. I think it's still going to be several years away. If I didn't already have a Lumis, I wouldn't personally have a problem buying a VW1000 for watching 2K material on it. Especially if you have a really big screen.

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Well, I'm now part of the club.............just purchased my 1000 from AVS and am still contemplating screen size............

You're using a 150" wide or diagonal screen in what ratio? I'm thinking 12" wide with 4k material but am concerned about light. Looks like my throw will be approximately 17' which is cutting it close with this projector. I like a bright picture due to age........eye sight.........and other various undisclosed reasons!! smile.gif

My screen--a Dalite HP2.4--is 144"x61" for 2.35 pics, and 136x72 for 16x9 (actually 17x9 with the 1000), and I run the 1000 in low lamp. This gives more than 20 ftL off the screen, for like you, I do like a bright pic; will go to high lamp when it dims. If your projector location and room setup works well for the HP, I would recommend considering it.
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Two things that I can say is, the 1000 do not do its 3D the same way as the hw50 or the 95ES, it do not have the same "flicker". in big bright white areas ( I dont know if it not doing 48 hz, but it is clearly more stable in the plcture and I do not notice any flicker - do other owner's ?

Even if they dont make a new HDMI board for the 1000, ( but ofcause I hope they will to smile.gif ), it will absolutly not be " totaly useless:eek: " . how many movies or other materiel, do you know off for now and the next long. time? that will be in anything else then 24P for 3D, when we talk about. 1080P or higher resolution ? ..........even the ONLY movie ever made for now in 48P ( the Hobbit ), is not avalible in anything else then 24 P !

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The 1000ES is not suitable for a large size reference quality (read gain around 1.0) screen. It will light up a HP2.4 screen that is really big however you will some of the magic realism that projector can produce. Bill is coming to visit my wife amd I next week, we will see what he thinks after viewing the 1000ES on my Studiotec Snomat 100 screen compared to his HP2.4. This is not to say the HP2.4 isn't a good screen but the 100 in my NSHO raises it to another level.

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The 1000ES is not suitable for a large size reference quality (read gain around 1.0) screen. It will light up a HP2.4 screen that is really big however you will some of the magic realism that projector can produce. Bill is coming to visit my wife amd I next week, we will see what he thinks after viewing the 1000ES on my Studiotec Snomat 100 screen compared to his HP2.4. This is not to say the HP2.4 isn't a good screen but the 100 in my NSHO raises it another level.

I agree that the 1000ES would not be bright enough for a 1.0 screen of my size. I find the HP2.4 (which make the large size possible) to give an exceptionally smooth and refined surface, and calibration with ChromaPure (and a RadianceMini) takes care of any minor color shift.

Mark keeps telling me that the Stewart Snomat100 is even better, so I'm really looking forward to seeing his week after next. (Even if it is, though, I wouldn't give up the size I have.)
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I wouldn't expect anyone to choose Snomatt 100 if using or desiring a screen of Bill's size. One always has to set priorities and then optimize performance based on those priorities. For 3D with the 1000ES even with my 54 x 96 screen, a 1.0 gain really does not make the picture as bright as I would like and when I move to Florida I will use Snomatt for 2D and HP2.4 for 3D.

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Even if they dont make a new HDMI board for the 1000, ( but ofcause I hope they will to ), it will absolutly not be " totaly useless:eek: " . how many movies or other materiel, do you know off for now and the next long. time? that will be in anything else then 24P for 3D, when we talk about. 1080P or higher resolution ? ..........even the ONLY movie ever made for now in 48P ( the Hobbit ), is not avalible in anything else then 24 P !
We are talking about two different things here. First thing is that the 1000 does not support 48fps and second is that it does not support the new HDMI (2.0) format. 4K movies will come soon I think and if they will be HDMI 2.0 then you cannot play 4K movies with the 1000. The second problem is that 48fps is not supported but I think 48fps is further away to be released for home use than 4K Blu-Ray/streaming content.
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We are talking about two different things here. First thing is that the 1000 does not support 48fps and second is that it does not support the new HDMI (2.0) format. 4K movies will come soon I think and if they will be HDMI 2.0 then you cannot play 4K movies with the 1000. The second problem is that 48fps is not supported but I think 48fps is further away to be released for home use than 4K Blu-Ray/streaming content.

Sorry, but you're way, way off on this.

First, there is no new HDMI standard yet. It doesn't exist. So, to suggest the VW1000ES isn't compatible with the new standard would be like saying "my 2010 Toyota Camry doesn't support the 2020 Toyota Camry navigation system." Of course it doesn't...the 2020 navigation system has been created yet.

No one knows when the standard is coming and what the standard will include. You're speaking as though the format has been nailed down and is launching imminently. Definitely not the case. There's no definitive way to even know whether or not HDMI 1.5 or 2.0 will even support 48fps at this point.

The VW1000ES DOES support a native 4K input at 24fps. So yes, you will absolutely, 100% be able to play 4K movies when the content becomes available. I'm not sure why you think you wont. Just because a new HDMI version comes out, doesn't mean that older standards cease to exist. The HDMI ports on the VW1000ES won't magically disappear or stop working. Not only that, but Sony has said that they'll release a new board when the HDMI standard is set.

I think you may be confusing this projector and the e-shift JVC. The Sony supports native 4K and the JVC does not. The VW1000ES is a true 4K projector.
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Sorry, but you're way, way off on this.

First, there is no new HDMI standard yet. It doesn't exist. So, to suggest the VW1000ES isn't compatible with the new standard would be like saying "my 2010 Toyota Camry doesn't support the 2020 Toyota Camry navigation system." Of course it doesn't...the 2020 navigation system has been created yet.

No one knows when the standard is coming and what the standard will include. You're speaking as though the format has been nailed down and is launching imminently. Definitely not the case. There's no definitive way to even know whether or not HDMI 1.5 or 2.0 will even support 48fps at this point.

The VW1000ES DOES support a native 4K input at 24fps. So yes, you will absolutely, 100% be able to play 4K movies when the content becomes available. I'm not sure why you think you wont. Just because a new HDMI version comes out, doesn't mean that older standards cease to exist. The HDMI ports on the VW1000ES won't magically disappear or stop working. Not only that, but Sony has said that they'll release a new board when the HDMI standard is set.

I think you may be confusing this projector and the e-shift JVC. The Sony supports native 4K and the JVC does not. The VW1000ES is a true 4K projector.

More is known about the HDMI 2.0 schedule and features than you state. The head of the the HDMI organization said at CES in January 2013 that the next generation standard will be completed in the first half of 2013, thus by the end of June (so hopefully that answers "when" the new HDMI standard will be completed/published). The technical working group, which as formed about 1.5 years ago to development the new HDMI standard was given some specfic tasking including that it must be backward compatible with HDMI 1.4b hardware and that the goal is it will support 4K at higher refresh rates including 60 Hz. Also known is it will have increased bandwidth with a total data througput of 18 Gbps. One chip manufacturer present at CES 2013 seemed to be indicating they will be sampling HDMI 2.0 chipsets around the first of next year with production quantities by mid-2014. This probably assumes the new spec. gets completed and published on schedule. From one source I have recently heard the new spec. may be released perhaps as early as next month. Bottom line is 4K UHD TVs, Projectors, AVRs and source devices sporting the new HDMI inputs/outputs are not expected until mid-2014. However, it might be possible for some manufacture to offer a product with a partial HDMI 2.0 implementation before that date. This is what Sony did with the PS3 which intially offered only very minimal partial support for HDMI 1.3 but was subsequently upgraded through just firmware updates to more fully support not only the essential HDMI 1.3 video and audio functions, but also the essential HDMI 1.4 functions (i.e., 3D support). This was possible with the PS3 since it implemented some of the HDMI functions in software running on it cell processor rather than using the hardware-only solution that is used on most devices. It will be interesting to see what the capabilities of the PS4 will be when it ships late this year.




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the new HDMI standard was given some specfic tasking including that it must be backward compatible with HDMI 1.4b hardware

so, do you think that being the hardware compatible with hdmi 1.4b,
existing products (sony 1000es ie) could be updated
just with new firmware?
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Well, I'm now part of the club.............just purchased my 1000 from AVS and am still contemplating screen size............

You're using a 150" wide or diagonal screen in what ratio? I'm thinking 12" wide with 4k material but am concerned about light. Looks like my throw will be approximately 17' which is cutting it close with this projector. I like a bright picture due to age........eye sight.........and other various undisclosed reasons!! smile.gif


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Congrats on your Sony 1000ES projector. My screen is 16:9 with a 1.3 gain. It is just shy of 11' wide....
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Jeff does a great job. Enjoy your VW1000 - I bet it looks awesome after being calibrated !!

+1 and yes it does look awesome after being calibrated by Jeff...wink.gif
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