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post #9721 of 11106 Old 04-22-2014, 04:34 PM
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Question on the puck... for people with a Sony 4k TV, can the puck be controlled by the TV remote, thus not requiring the Xperia Z tablet? I am selling my puck to someone that has a Sony 4k TV and want to make sure I give him correct info. I don't know the TV model number he has yet. I have asked.

Yes, on my 4k panel, you can control the puck with the remote control but I will say that I prefer the Tablet method. Tablet lets me know that it is warming up, connecting, ... With the remote, you just have to sit there and wait and you just dont know if it didnt connect to the 4k player.
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That is not the case. I KNOW the original 84 inch 4K panel requires the tablet and I think the original 55 and 65 do also. You can check the sony esupport site and down load the applicable puck installation instructions for the sets that require the tablet to control the puck.

The 84" requires the tablet, but the 55 and 65 don't. It's controlled via the TV.
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That is not the case. I KNOW the original 84 inch 4K panel requires the tablet and I think the original 55 and 65 do also. You can check the sony esupport site and down load the applicable puck installation instructions for the sets that require the tablet to control the puck.

The 84" requires the tablet, but the 55 and 65 don't. It's controlled via the TV.

I know when I run my other puck on my 55X8504A it requires the tablet. It's had a couple of software updates since I last used the puck with it. Plus it's not running US firmware, so that could be a factor as well.

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I know when I run my other puck on my 55X8504A it requires the tablet. It's had a couple of software updates since I last used the puck with it. Plus it's not running US firmware, so that could be a factor as well.

That's so weird. I got my 850 right when they were available and I never had to use the tablet. Same with my 900 that I kept for a few weeks. Maybe it is a US firmware thing.
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That's so weird. I got my 850 right when they were available and I never had to use the tablet. Same with my 900 that I kept for a few weeks. Maybe it is a US firmware thing.

Think it is. Pending next time I try it since last couple of updates.

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I have a 65" 4K panel and a 124" screen. I found that watching the 4K material on the 65" screen seemed so pitifully small that now I only use the puck with the projector.

I prefer using the tablet but it would be nice if the same image on the tablet was also displayed on the screen so everyone else in the room could see what can be selected.

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My issue is Sony forces you to use their dumbass tablet. I have iPads all over the house, including a dedicated one running Roomie Remote installed on cup holder mount, to control everything, including lighting. Now, I have to have an entirely separate tablet laying round that serves no use except the rare browsing of 4k titles.

It's not bad to have a tablet to browse titles - I have a Dune, and while you can use an OSD, their iOS app is much easier to search, research, and play titles. The Sony app is pitiful in comparison.

And I don't for a MOMENT believe they couldn't release an iOS app for this - their blathering about security is downright silly. There's no way to have secure, authenticated app communication from an iOS device?

In fact, for me, the separate tablet discourages use. I have it plugged into a charger several feet away, and all my other sources are available on my ipad remote...if it were an iOS app, I would more likely switch to it and browse a little but. Now, I don't even remember to unplug it and bring it to my seat when I walk into the theater. Other then taking a look a few days ago, I hadn't launched the FMP in over two months straight...if it were an app on my ipad, I would have taken a peek more than a few times a week...

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Maybe you just need Roomie to release an Android version of THEIR app! biggrin.gif
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Maybe you just need Roomie to release an Android version of THEIR app! biggrin.gif

Ha! I could care less honestly. I used the sony tablet when I first received it, and the OS is so inferior to iOS I would never switch. Call me a fanboy, but the user experience is much better on iOS IMO...

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I agree though, the app sucks. I sold my puck yesterday. Guy turned out to have the 55 model 4k TV so he is set. Not sure if I will sell the tablet or not. Maybe let the kids mess with it so I can have my iPad back.
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I agree though, the app sucks. I sold my puck yesterday. Guy turned out to have the 55 model 4k TV so he is set. Not sure if I will sell the tablet or not. Maybe let the kids mess with it so I can have my iPad back.

What did you get for the FMP? I'm likely selling mine...and the tablet...

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$350 selling through Amazon's "sell one used" method. I have had really good luck selling stuff through Amazon. They take less fees than Ebay and you don't get double charged for someone to pay you, either. They just pay Amazon when they click to order. Even buying the shipping is cheaper through Amazon.
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$350 selling through Amazon's "sell one used" method. I have had really good luck selling stuff through Amazon. They take less fees than Ebay and you don't get double charged for someone to pay you, either. They just pay Amazon when they click to order. Even buying the shipping is cheaper through Amazon.
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Supposedly the 55 and 65 and 84 XBR900 required the tablet.

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I would be happy with 300.00 for my puck. smile.gif

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If you sell a used puck for $300 or more, you could say you successfully graduated from Sony Puck U.

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If you sell a used puck for $300 or more, you could say you successfully graduated from Puck U.

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Projector humor....

Does that mean that since the puck was obsolete so quickly, we all got pucked?
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If you sell a used puck for $300 or more, you could say you successfully graduated from Sony Puck U.

And, in six months, if you pay more than $300 for a used puck, you got Pucked.

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i don't recall seeing anyone talk about this yet. Interesting solution for the older TV's and non-updated 1000.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-fmpx5-201404233747.htm

"Sony has launched its new FMP-X5 4K Media Player in the United Kingdom and Europe at a press event in London today, bringing HEVC/ H.265 decoder support to legacy Bravia X9 4K Ultra HD TVs, therefore allowing owners to access Netflix 4K streaming for the first time."

Unlike the FMP-X10 launched in the USA, the Sony FMP-X5 doesn’t come with any internal storage, and so won’t be compatible with the brand’s Video Unlimited 4K download service
(which still hasn’t been rolled out in the UK and European markets in any case). Support for Sony 4K projectors like the VPL-VW500ES and the VPL-VW1000ES, as well as rival VP9 codec used by Google for YouTube 4K, remains under consideration, a company spokesperson said.
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''Support for Sony 4K projectors like the VPL-VW1000ES remains under consideration''

The only reason for getting the upgrade for EU VW1000 owners is to get it future proof. See also post #172 in this topic:

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Supposedly the 55 and 65 and 84 XBR900 required the tablet.

Mark, I have the 65" X900A and I have never used the tablet with it. The TV's remote controls the puck.
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"Sony has launched its new FMP-X5 4K Media Player in the United Kingdom and Europe at a press event in London today, bringing HEVC/ H.265 decoder support to legacy Bravia X9 4K Ultra HD TVs, therefore allowing owners to access Netflix 4K streaming for the first time."

Unlike the FMP-X10 launched in the USA, the Sony FMP-X5 doesn’t come with any internal storage, and so won’t be compatible with the brand’s Video Unlimited 4K download service
(which still hasn’t been rolled out in the UK and European markets in any case). Support for Sony 4K projectors like the VPL-VW500ES and the VPL-VW1000ES, as well as rival VP9 codec used by Google for YouTube 4K, remains under consideration, a company spokesperson said.

So basically, the only 4k media this player will support is netflix streaming? Why not also make this player compatible with the video download service when it gets rolled out in the European markets?
Disappointing to say the least..
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I wouldn't be surprised if Sony gave a trade in for used pucks.

I sure hope that you're right, but don't see how they can do anything other than a swap considering the price drop and smaller internal drive of the new one. And I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.

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Could someone pretty please cite source page # for puck hook up in this laborious 300+ thread?  I'm in process of installing puck and preparing with a little reading...................

 

I've already spent 15 minutes.............................time is money!  :D

 

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Ok.............puck is hooked up...................some of the free material is quite compelling.....well, the video aspect.  No audio...............what the heck?  2nd HDMI cable to media player on Marantz 8801..............nothing.............no sound. Ugh!

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Did you enable hdmi audio out of the puck's hdmi 2? Do so via the three vertical dots (upper right) in the tablet's 4k app menu, then go to audio settings. If that doesn't work you made need the hdmi to optical (toslink) converter as discussed on joerod's site.
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Did you enable hdmi audio out of the puck's hdmi 2? Do so via the three vertical dots (upper right) in the tablet's 4k app menu, then go to audio settings. If that doesn't work you made need the hdmi to optical (toslink) converter as discussed on joerod's site.

 

 

Thanks.......

 

I tried the audio settings before I posted, but nothing.  Thanks for advice ...........................I'll check out joerod's site for  fix.

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