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post #10111 of 10122 Old 07-11-2014, 01:58 PM
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Good to know. The place I ordered from didn't carry anything shorter than the 60 footer, so that is what I got. They were $100 cheaper than what Celerity wants for the 30 footer from their site, though, and could ship immediately. I should have it tomorrow. Plus if I ever move to a projector in a booth behind my current room, I will have plenty of cable length to get there without buying something else. Again, assuming this fixes the noise issue. Back it goes if it doesn't.
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FYI

You can save some dollars by ordering the new Sony FMP-X10 from Amazon instead of Sony.
They are offering the same preorder discount
If you have Amazon Prime the shipping is free and no sales tax
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FYI

You can save some dollars by ordering the new Sony FMP-X10 from Amazon instead of Sony.
They are offering the same preorder discount
If you have Amazon Prime the shipping is free and no sales tax
Amazon does collect sales tax now, at least in certain jurisdictions...
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Amazon does collect sales tax now, at least in certain jurisdictions...
In my case I saved the sales tax. Almost $50.00
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Amazon does collect sales tax now, at least in certain jurisdictions...
If the "store" you buy from has an outlet in your State you will be charged sales tax. If they don't you will not pay sales tax.

For orders that come from Amazon LLC I am charged sales tax now too, perhaps because they have a fulfillment center in my State?

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If the "store" you buy from has an outlet in your State you will be charged sales tax. If they don't you will not pay sales tax.

For orders that come from Amazon LLC I am charged sales tax now too, perhaps because they have a fulfillment center in my State?
I did not know that different locations were charged differently

Sony FMPX10 4K Ultra HD Media Player (Exclusively compatible with Sony 4K Ultra HD TVs)

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More and more states are striking deals with major online retailers to collect state sales tax - NJ has for over a year, I think NY as well...not sure where else...but the tax benefit of online purchasing will continue to diminish I think.

As noted, the it's a third party seller on amazon, they are not compelled to collect the state tax unless they operate in that state
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Hifiaudio2,

Celerity optical hdmi works fine...a friend has it on a Sony 95es/Integra processor. Other than one of the hdmi end connectors needing to be replaced, it has performed well. As you know, since it is optical, it should break the ground loop.
It should? It will unless there other other electrical connections causing the ground loop.

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It "should" if the loop was solely isolated to the hdmi cable, first without then with all other connections made. If not, and the loop is caused by electrical connections or other signal connections, then it will remain. I thought the description was pointing the loop solely to the hdmi. I had to track down a ground loop in my theater and it was a real pain to isolate. After process and elimination, it ended up being a defective amp...so you never know.

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That's one of the drawbacks to MadVR scaling. It's very demanding. My GTX 690 definitely ramps up quite a bit when it does the scaling to 4K. I think you definitely need an expensive graphics card to use JINC and NNEDI3 scaling. The cost of a PC needed to do this costs almost as much as a Lumagen, but there's a ton of other functionality the PC has. It helps justify the high cost a bit more. Though, fan noise becomes quite a bit louder from my GPU. I haven't taken a peek at the GPU percent usage MadVR is utilizing, but I think I will tonight. I may upgrade with nvidia releases it's 8xx line of GPUs if it means quieter performance when it's under a load.
Everything with MadVR was looking pretty easily until NNEDI3 came along. But now suddenly GFX cards are being made to sweat with the new upscaling algorithms. I had contemplated moving back to Nvidia for HTPC, but I've heard around the traps in other threads here that the Radeons are a tad better at running OpenCL which NNEDI3 uses. The nuisance being AMD don't have a 60Hz 4K output solution like Nvidia have developed. If you're buying an off the shelf PC and speccing it maybe you'd get to the cost of a Lumagen, but there's no way my Shuttle XPC or Silverstone/MSI/Devils Canyon i5 based mini-itx PC will owe me anything like say a Lumagen 2143, even if I were to put say a GTX Titan in one to handle processing duties.

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Everything with MadVR was looking pretty easily until NNEDI3 came along. But now suddenly GFX cards are being made to sweat with the new upscaling algorithms. I had contemplated moving back to Nvidia for HTPC, but I've heard around the traps in other threads here that the Radeons are a tad better at running OpenCL which NNEDI3 uses. The nuisance being AMD don't have a 60Hz 4K output solution like Nvidia have developed. If you're buying an off the shelf PC and speccing it maybe you'd get to the cost of a Lumagen, but there's no way my Shuttle XPC or Silverstone/MSI/Devils Canyon i5 based mini-itx PC will owe me anything like say a Lumagen 2143, even if I were to put say a GTX Titan in one to handle processing duties.
How much does a 2143 cost? I just went on newegg and put together a pretty typical mini-itx "gaming" grade PC powerful enough for MadVR duties. This includes an Intel 4770K, nvidia GTX Titan black (though you could go a little cheaper), 16GB of RAM, Silverstone Mini-ITX case, 650 watt modular PSU, 120GB SSD for your OS, a 2TB harddrive, a mini-ITX motherboard, and bluray drive. It costs roughly $2100. You make it sound as if the lumagen is way more expensive than this. If that's the case, I don't understand why anyone would buy one especially when the functionality and feature set of the PC is miles higher than something like a lumagen. Arguably the single greatest feature the Lumagen has is the color management/calibration suite, but there are options on the PC as well albeit less refined. If you were to have a bunch of harddrives attached to your PC, load your bluray collection onto it, utilize front end software like XBMC or JRiver you can have a Kaleidescape-like experience with all the benefits a modern PC media media player has like MadVR rendering and upscaling, FFDShow and LAVs video and audio decoders, the option in the media player to tweak everything to the nth degree all in the form factor of the size of a shoebox. I just think it's amazing that you can do almost everything home theater enthusiasts need on the modern PC. Lumagen knows there is still a crowd out there that think "PC's are difficult to set up" or "PC's are faulty" or "PCs are unstable" which is a total misconception. Reliability and stability issues are a thing of the past and if you can understand how to set up a Lumagen properly then you can definitely set up something like MadVR and the media player using it. I think anyone buying the Lumagen for the sole purpose of scaling should really reconsider. I understand completely that the calibration suite for some is worth the Lumagen's weight in gold and if that's the reason you're buying it, then more power to you. I just think for everything else, there are far cheaper, and in some cases, better options out there on a PC.

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How much does a 2143 cost? I just went on newegg and put together a pretty typical mini-itx "gaming" grade PC powerful enough for MadVR duties. This includes an Intel 4770K, nvidia GTX Titan black (though you could go a little cheaper), 16GB of RAM, Silverstone Mini-ITX case, 650 watt modular PSU, 120GB SSD for your OS, a 2TB harddrive, a mini-ITX motherboard, and bluray drive. It costs roughly $2200. You make it sound as if the lumagen is way more expensive than this. If that's the case, I don't understand why anyone would buy one especially when the functionality and feature set of the PC is miles higher than something like a lumagen. Arguably the single greatest feature the Lumagen has is the color management/calibration suite, but there are options on the PC as well albeit less refined. If you were to have a bunch of harddrives attached to your PC, load your bluray collection onto it, utilize front end software like XBMC or JRiver you can have a Kaleidescape-like experience with all the benefits a modern PC media media player has like MadVR rendering and upscaling, FFDShow and LAVs video and audio decoders, the option in the media player to tweak everything to the nth degree all in the form factor of the size of a shoebox. I just think it's amazing that you can do almost everything home theater enthusiasts need on the modern PC. Lumagen knows there is still a crowd out there that think "PC's are difficult to set up" or "PC's are faulty" or "PCs are unstable" which is a total misconception. Reliability and stability issues are a thing of the past and if you can understand how to set up a Lumagen properly then you can definitely set up something like MadVR and the media player using it.
The 2143 retails for $3195 at the moment. So literally $1000 less than what you just specced up on NewEgg. I think there is a market though, not forgetting that it's a lot easier to plug and play a Lumagen for any source upscaling you want, encrypted PayTV for example. I am still considering that I'll probably end up with one eventually myself. For now though, considering the masses of 720p and 1080p I view via HTPC, it's no brainer to have a trick MadVR set up running.

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