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Did anyone here see or own a Novabeam, and do you remember what the picture quality was like?
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I'm thankful that I didn't get into the HT game until the year that the JVC RS1 came out.
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Back in those days I couldn't afford one of those but i remember them well.

In college, I was once student manager of our closed circuit TV station which was used for broadcasts of certain professor's classes to multiple class rooms and we purchased a few projection TVs, used on lrge screens, quite expensive but I don't remember the manufacturers.

When I started Soundworks in 1983, we use to sell the Zenith 7 inch tube FP TVs. Three tubes and the Ampros. Sam Runco's first FP was a slightly modifies 7 inch Zenith. Rebranding of that set was common with very minor modifications. The original sets had very few geometrical controls. At the end there were lots of pots to turn on a convergence board, a long time ago.
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They had one at the Hay Adams hotel in Washington DC--- in the main bar room. I worked there over the summer and it produced a picture that was at best washed out in the late evening.

BTW: Mark...I really feel old now. Those were some interesting days.
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FWIW, some notes from my repair shipping off my unit to Laredo Sony. I've posted about this a few times, my serial and IP communications died in my upgrade board. I also asked them to look at the zoom not returning to saved positions, which was a new issue with the upgrade board (some others here mentioned it, but I don't recall hearing about it lately). That doesn't seem to have been fixed.

They say they upgraded the firmware in what are likely generic repair notes, but the only line item in the service menu higher than 1.00 is the IP ROM version, which is 1.03.

Good:
  • Unit was only in Laredo 4 business days
  • Sony paid for overnight shipping both ways
  • So far, the IP and serial issue seems to be resolved
  • I have a serial number listed in my menus now (the same serial that is in the sticker on the outside), and it does confirm I have an 1100ES board.
  • No obvious physical damage, and I don't see any operational glitches that would indicate a rough trip.

Bad:
  • Isn't there a large rubber foot on the rear of the unit? So you have adjustable feet in front, and the rubber in the back if you put this on a tabletop? That's missing. I ceiling mount, but still. And its not in the box or in the plastic.
  • FedEx glitch on the way there made it disappear from tracking for over 24 hours, and delayed shipment a day
  • Notes I put in box about shipping to my work address were ignored, it was shipped to my house
  • I shipped them original boxes and packing (it was double boxed), all I got back was generic single box packing that did not seem sufficient, and is not something I'd want to use if I had to send it off again
  • Front plastic didn't have a mark or fingerprint on it when I sent it, now has scuffs, handprints and minor scratches. Probably mostly not avoidable, and I hate that shiny plastic
  • They put some kind of tracking sticker on the unit, and where did they put it--on the front shiny plastic. Why?
  • Specifically requested pulling settings from old board. Everything was reset to defaults. I put back in everything from my calibration, so I'm wondering what if anything I'm missing from losing my original/upgrade board settings? Or maybe they did pull the stuff I can't see, but then why did they reset everything in the user menus? I guess I am unclear about why they had to transfer the settings from the old board to the new board during the on-site upgrades if they could have just copied settings.

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there is a thin rubber piece in the back, I have mine shelf mounted and just took a look. It's odd it would be missing, it's not necessary to remove that to swap out the motherboard.

are you saying they kept your original box? it's good to hear it's working ok, but I wouldn't be looking forward to sending mine in for any reason.

I'm going to take a closer look at some 4K gaming later tonight. This test rig is similar to mine, around 50 FPS is fine for me, i'm not a hardcore gamer. I just want to see some 4K eye candy.

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I would call ES intergrator support, chad or tony, and ask them to send you a replacement foot.

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I would call ES intergrator support, chad or tony, and ask them to send you a replacement foot.
Thanks guys for confirming this is missing. I will give them a call.

Zombie yes they kept all my original packing. I understand you don't want to re-use shipping boxes too much, but I would have hoped for more comparable packing for the return trip. Looking forward to your gaming reports.

Now that I've got this integrated into my Control4 home automation again I played with some macros. In fact I never had it running with IP drivers before and it sure is nice to be able to control almost every setting on the unit. The new 1100ES driver (June?) can even turn on and off the "Mastered in 4K" setting. The macros are going to be especially nice for switching to low lag gaming settings when I switch to those sources.

I don't know if I have things dialed in better after being forced to do everything from scratch or it has just been too long since I watched a movie, but the bright scenes at the beginning of "Oculus" were just stunningly good.

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And sharpness ?
In moving content, it is very hard to tell. With test patterns, you can see a difference.

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Ready for football!!! 1100ES style!!!
Is there really such a hot spot on your screen, or is this the flash from the camera?

PS Also, the green looks unnaturally bright. Is this how you actually see it?
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Ready for football!!! 1100ES style!!!
Why is there, what looks like pincushion in the image?

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How much better are the blacks on the 1100 over the 500/600?
5%, 10%, 20%???
If I had to pick a number, I would say 10%. Of course it takes more than a 10% improvement to actually see a difference.

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It also depends on the content, the screen size, the screen fabric, the viewing distance, and the room environment. The condition of your eyes is also relevant.

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It also depends on the content, the screen size, the screen fabric, the viewing distance, and the room environment. The condition of your eyes is also relevant.
Yep. Using my eyes, my screen (EN4K) 9' viewing distance onto a 107" wide scope screen. Dark pit room. For content, mostly 1080P BD and some 4K.

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LOL- you guys are tough. The thread was awfully quiet so I figured why not post a quick pic of preseason football on the NFL Network. I just used my iPhone 5. No hot spots. Not usually that bright. And no pin cushion. My screen is curved.

But the sharpness is spot on. You can even make out Troy's hair!

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My comments were to Mike Gs sharpness hard to see on content comment. But also applicable to black levels obviously where screen gain is a killer.

A great test of sharpness is facial close ups. Re football, a fumble is a fumble and sharpness of the projector is really not a factor.

Re black levels and brightness in how bright the picture looks, 10% may be quite noticeable depending on where you stsrt at.

In Mike Gs case, 10% would not be very noticeable particularly if you look up at the ceiling and keep wondering how the scene would sound with Atmos ceiling speakers. to evaluate video, you need to shut the sound off.

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LOL- you guys are tough. The thread was awfully quiet so I figured why not post a quick pic of preseason football on the NFL Network. I just used my iPhone 5. No hot spots. Not usually that bright. And no pin cushion. My screen is curved.

But the sharpness is spot on. You can even make out Troy's hair!
Curved screen, explains why the image looked like it had pincushion. I did not think you used an A-lens? Do you just like the look of a curved screen? I use a curved masking screen, but I have a short throw situation with an A-lens. I am in the process of building a baffle wall setup. Here is a pic, right before I put the screen and masking back up. Yes off topic, but it is pretty slow on here right now.
[IMG][/IMG]

Center speaker drivers are out so that they can be measured for crossover design. The speakers are a MTMW design using 12", horn loaded ribbon, 12" and 18" driver for each LCR. The two 18's in the baffle wall are subs. The 18's for the mains are below each speaker in a separate enclosure. Put the screen and masking system back up yesterday.
[IMG][/IMG]

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The Amazing Spider-man 2 has a great looking menu screen.
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The football looks good here Mark.
And the grass!!!
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They say they upgraded the firmware in what are likely generic repair notes, but the only line item in the service menu higher than 1.00 is the IP ROM version, which is 1.03.

Good:
  • So far, the IP and serial issue seems to be resolved
  • I have a serial number listed in my menus now (the same serial that is in the sticker on the outside), and it does confirm I have an 1100ES board.

Bad:
  • Isn't there a large rubber foot on the rear of the unit? So you have adjustable feet in front, and the rubber in the back if you put this on a tabletop? That's missing. I ceiling mount, but still. And its not in the box or in the plastic.
  • I shipped them original boxes and packing (it was double boxed), all I got back was generic single box packing that did not seem sufficient, and is not something I'd want to use if I had to send it off again
  • Front plastic didn't have a mark or fingerprint on it when I sent it, now has scuffs, handprints and minor scratches. Probably mostly not avoidable, and I hate that shiny plastic
  • They put some kind of tracking sticker on the unit, and where did they put it--on the front shiny plastic. Why?
  • Specifically requested pulling settings from old board. Everything was reset to defaults. I put back in everything from my calibration, so I'm wondering what if anything I'm missing from losing my original/upgrade board settings? Or maybe they did pull the stuff I can't see, but then why did they reset everything in the user menus? I guess I am unclear about why they had to transfer the settings from the old board to the new board during the on-site upgrades if they could have just copied settings.
Is it possible they sent you a refurb unit instead of repairing? Does the serial match what you used to have (if you know it)? Since all the upgraded 1100es units have 999999 or whatever, this one having a serial could mean its not the same unit, given all the other differences, scratches, etc?
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Curved screen, explains why the image looked like it had pincushion. I did not think you used an A-lens? Do you just like the look of a curved screen? I use a curved masking screen, but I have a short throw situation with an A-lens. I am in the process of building a baffle wall setup. Here is a pic, right before I put the screen and masking back up. Yes off topic, but it is pretty slow on here right now.
[IMG][/IMG]

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[IMG][/IMG]
I loved Curved screens! No A lens. My 1100ES is mounted low enough towards the center of the screen that it works nicely. Everyone here loves the Curved look. I am planning my next 4K TV to be a curved one.

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Is it possible they sent you a refurb unit instead of repairing? Does the serial match what you used to have (if you know it)? Since all the upgraded 1100es units have 999999 or whatever, this one having a serial could mean its not the same unit, given all the other differences, scratches, etc?
No, its the same unit, took pics of exterior serial before I sent it off.

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I would call ES intergrator support, chad or tony, and ask them to send you a replacement foot.
Talked to Tony, he couldn't do anything and sent me to Laredo. Very painful hard to understand conversation there. Asked for repair notes and got nothing. Don't have any idea if they even tried to take care of the zoom issue (returning to saved memory positions) that was new with the upgrade board. Supposed to call me back about getting the foot. Really, I have to talk twice to somebody else (3 times if you count Tony) to get a foot they lost?

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The position memory issue was clearly introduced with the board upgrade, but I haven't heard squat about Sony fixing it or even caring...

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I just got my upgraded 1000 installed after it waiting for a year while I planned and finished construction. I forgot just how beautiful the picture is... And I am projecting onto a wall!

I found the puck to be a nice novelty but as everyone knows, the available content sucks.

I am glad I didn't buy a screen before I got the projector up. I was going to buy a DNP Blade but am now having second thoughts. Once my motorized shades go in, I don't think I need the Blade.

Is anyone using a PS4 or XBox1 as a BluRay player? Back in the day, the PS3 was excellent as a BR player but wasn't sure if the new generation of consoles could keep up with an Oppo.
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In moving content, it is very hard to tell. With test patterns, you can see a difference.

Correctly said, you need to use a Sharpness Pattern to prevent edge enhancement (halo/ringing effect) or soft contouring (blurring of the image details).

You can check using a Sharpness Pattern some display settings like: Digital Reality Creation, Noise Reduction, MPEG Noise Reduction, Dot Noise Reduction, Noise Filtering, Detail Enhancer, Edge Enhancer, Super Resolution, Digital Clear View to see how they are affecting your image resolution.

You can see how the Sony's Digital Reality Creation Manual Setting is interacting to the high frequency resolution lines and to find your best performance setting after trying some DCR's different values, and watch how many artifacts a wrong setting of your sharpness is introducing.





* Scaled Picturea from Actual 1920x1080 pixel sized Patterns.

You may find interesting to test your display with this Advanced Sharpness Pattern that is available inside the Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Blu-Ray Disk among with other 150 Color Reproduction Patterns.

This Sharpness Pattern is not limited to typical Black/Gray/White Background that all current calibration disks are using but at 4-Step (25%, 50%, 75%,100%) of 7-Color Amplitude (Gray, Red, Green, Blue, Cyan, Magenta, Yellow) Background...


Better View - Part of the Advanced Sharpness Pattern

This Advanced Sharpness pattern is a real challenge for any display, it's will uncloak problems of you current sharpness control setting or from other enabled enhancements that were not visible before.

You can use it to verify your current sharpness setting value that you have set using a pattern generator or other calibration disk pattern since all other sharpness patterns available are based at grayscale lines/backgrounds only.

These multicolored backgrounds and shapes/lines combination will require to tweak your current setting to a different that is different setting from that you have already set based on other classic grayscale based sharpness pattern.

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