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I am going from memory here having not recharged my glasses batteries in a long time but I think the recharger is just a cord that plugs into the mains (like that sophisticated Euro touch? ) and the other end into the glasses. could be mistaken.
My chord is simply a USB cable with a mini or micro connector at the glasses end and a regular USB plug at the other end.
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So, I wasn't happy with the VPL-VW500ES due to its long-duration thermal convergence drift of up to one hour and the lack of colour uniformity, and decided to return it and get the VPL-WV1100ES instead.

I picked up the new unit on Monday. It is a November 2014 production, serial number 10004xx. So not many such projectors have been manufactured. I was in touch with Sony Canada to ensure that the box was factory sealed - for some reason they open some units for 'inspection' - and they tracked it for me from Japan all the way to my dealer.


In summary, I think this unit is a keeper. Although, at this price it should have been more close to perfection and without smudges on the lens.

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Very happy for you. I've read your posts about the 500es I really hope this projector brings peace in mind so you can sit back and enjoy some movies and not worry about various annoying issues!

Did you observe a difference in black level and general contrast?

After some time with my 500es I really wanted to go for the 1100es as it was that good. The thought that it could become even better was tempting!
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No, here you have to buy one separate too


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Thanks, dj. I used my iPhone power adapter for charging the glasses. It's amazing how Sony saves money for a $$$$$ projector.

I wonder who gets the power adapter included. The U.S. models, perhaps?

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Very happy for you. I've read your posts about the 500es I really hope this projector brings peace in mind so you can sit back and enjoy some movies and not worry about various annoying issues!

Did you observe a difference in black level and general contrast?

After some time with my 500es I really wanted to go for the 1100es as it was that good. The thought that it could become even better was tempting!
Well, the colour uniformity issue and the long-duration thermal convergence drift of the 500ES were bothering me for a projector of that calibre (and price). So I went for this monstrosity of VW1100ES instead - it's huge! - which does not have those issues. The picture quality is much better, but this is not a perfect PJ either.

I think there is a slight improvement in sharpness, black level and contrast. I have a 16:9, HD Progressive 1.3 screen with no masking. When watching 2.35:1 films on the 500ES, the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen appeared too greyish. It's likely also due to the light coloured walls and white ceiling in my room. However, this effect is not that bothersome with the 1100ES.

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Question About RC Settings

What settings do you use for RC on your 1000ES/1100ES?

On the previous 500ES units, I concuded that a Resolution of 5 and Noise Filtering at Min would work out best for me.

However, if I use the same settings on the 1100ES, the image appears too 'digital'. Even if I reduce both the Resolution and Noise Filtering to Min, the image still has some mild digital look.

For example, I was watching some Alfred Hitchcock B&W films (Notorious, Spellbound, Strangers on a Train, Rebecca, Psycho) and the film grain looked very digital, with tendency for posterization in the very bright (white) areas.

So, in your opinion, what are the best settings for RC?

Also, what do you set the Smooth Gradation and Colour Correction at? What does Colour Correction do anyway?

Many thanks.
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I double-checked. The serial number is 10004xx. The model is VPL-VW1100ES and the manufacturing date is 11/2014.
Where do you see the manufacturing date at?

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Where do you see the manufacturing date at?
On the unit itself, it is written on the same label where the model number and the serial number of the projector are. This is on the opposite side of where the input connectors are. The serial number is at the bottom left of the label. The manufacturing date is on the bottom right side. Mine says 2014-11.

Also, the same date is on the box packaging, just below the Point Of Sale Bar Code (see attached).
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Where do you see the manufacturing date at?
Here, I took a photo of the label on the 1100ES. Apologies it's upside-down, as the projector is ceiling mounted.

Have you been able to find it on your projector?
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Our boxes don't have a date on the label. Odd.

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And the stickers on our projectors don't either.

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Our boxes don't have a date on the label. Odd.
Over the years I had the following projectors in my hand and, with no exception, all had date labels on them:

VPL-VW50 (2006-10)
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VPL-VW1100ES (2014-11)

I also saw a demo of a VPL-VW1000ES recently at a dealer (2013-03).

Can you please post a photo of the label on the projector?
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The only serial number I would trust is the one on the chassis. What is that on the machine? There are number of possible explanations for the label on the box to not match the number on the projector. But the number on the box would appear to be wrong, perhaps just a 1 that was entered as a 0 by mistake.

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The only serial number I would trust is the one on the chassis. What is that on the machine?
Mark, we were talking about manufacturing date labels, not serial numbers.

Perhaps you could please answer my questions in post #10,806 as I know you've got a lot of experience with this projector.
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I responded to a post that included a serial number starting with 1000 for a recently manufacturered VPL-vw1100ES. I stated that was wrong. Others started asking about date labels. Not me.

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I responded to a post that included a serial number starting with 1000 for a recently manufacturered VPL-vw1100ES. I stated that was wrong. Others started asking about date labels. Not me.

No Mark, its not wrong - my 1100 ( not a upgraded 1000 ) has a serial number starting with 1000 ( 10000xx ) too. ( and thats both on the box and the projector )


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Over the years I had the following projectors in my hand and, with no exception, all had date labels on them:

VPL-VW50 (2006-10)
VPL-VW60 (2007-09)
VPL-VW500ES (2014-04, 2014-08, 2014-08)
VPL-VW1100ES (2014-11)

I also saw a demo of a VPL-VW1000ES recently at a dealer (2013-03).

Can you please post a photo of the label on the projector?
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As to the settings I use, they obviously depend on me, my eyes, my screen size, gain, and smoothness, My throw distance, my seating distance, my room reflectiveness yada yada. that said I use RC at 0,4 and external darbee at 30. I normally watch with auto limited but sometimes bump up to auto full for sports. For sports, I use motion handling at low. I have no idea what color correction does. I don't need it because calibrated through my lumagen everything is spot on. I do not watch using my calibrated settings since to compensate for severe cataract yellowing in one of my eyes I need to crank in a bunch of blue gain to make what I see using both eyes to what I see with just my non yellow cataract good eye. Smooth graduation doesn't appear to do much but setting to medium will reduce banding should banding be visible on certain content. Frankly, I never have seen the banding it is designed to address and it doesn't do anything for what I see one way or another.

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No Mark, its not wrong - my 1100 ( not a upgraded 1000 ) has a serial number starting with 1000 ( 10000xx ) too. ( and thats both on the box and the projector )


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I suspect yours is correct it is 10000xxx. The one he posted was 1000xxx. Count the 0s, and a number that is 1000xxx is for a 1000 not a 1100. A number that is 10000xxx is for a 1100. None of this is rocket science.

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I suspect yours is correct it is 10000xxx. The one he posted was 1000xxx. Count the 0s, and a number that is 1000xxx is for a 1000 not a 1100. A number that is 10000xxx is for a 1100. None of this is rocket science.



Maybe not , but you still got it wrong ( I did Count and write the "0" and "1" correct ) the serial number on my 1100 is 1 0 0 0 0 x x ( seven digits - not eight ).




An afterthought - could it be different for US versus Europe/Canada ?


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I responded to a post that included a serial number starting with 1000 for a recently manufacturered VPL-vw1100ES. I stated that was wrong. Others started asking about date labels. Not me.
Hi Mark, on both my VPL-VW1100ES projector itself, and its packaging box the serial number for this unit manufactured in 2014-11 is 10004xx. One one. Three zeroes. Seven digits altogether. Nothing is wrong.

Perhaps the U.S. serial numbers are different than those in the rest of the world, same like the U.S. gets the 600ES and the rest of the world the 500ES. And also no 300ES in the U.S., while the rest of the world has it.

Also, for better clarity, in my opinion it may be a good idea to quote the text in the post you are responding to.

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As to the settings I use, they obviously depend on me, my eyes, my screen size, gain, and smoothness, My throw distance, my seating distance, my room reflectiveness yada yada. that said I use RC at 0,4 and external darbee at 30. I normally watch with auto limited but sometimes bump up to auto full for sports. For sports, I use motion handling at low. I have no idea what color correction does. I don't need it because calibrated through my lumagen everything is spot on. I do not watch using my calibrated settings since to compensate for severe cataract yellowing in one of my eyes I need to crank in a bunch of blue gain to make what I see using both eyes to what I see with just my non yellow cataract good eye. Smooth graduation doesn't appear to do much but setting to medium will reduce banding should banding be visible on certain content. Frankly, I never have seen the banding it is designed to address and it doesn't do anything for what I see one way or another.
Thanks very much, Mark. For clarity, do you use Resolution at 'Min' and Noise Filtering at '4'?

It seems to me that the default values for 'Reference' (i.e. Resolution = Min and Noise Filtering = 30) - I don't have Darbee - may be good but I'm afraid that the high value for Noise Filtering might reduce detail.

I don't see any effect when I change the colour correction setting but some colour banding on online-streamed content tends to disappear when I turn on Smooth Gradation to various levels. But when the latter is on, would I lose anything else, like detail, lag,...?
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Hi Mark, on both my VPL-VW1100ES projector itself, and its packaging box the serial number for this unit manufactured in 2014-11 is 10004xx. One one. Three zeroes. Seven digits altogether. Nothing is wrong.

Perhaps the U.S. serial numbers are different than those in the rest of the world, same like the U.S. gets the 600ES and the rest of the world the 500ES. And also no 300ES in the U.S., while the rest of the world has it.

Also, for better clarity, in my opinion it may be a good idea to quote the text in the post you are responding to.
I would imagine this to be true. It's most likely because the US units have a US warranty and Sony America must have their own bank of serial numbers for the units sold here for their warranty system. This could also be be why the number itself is a different amount of digits. Other markets must have a different serial/warranty system. Makes sense.

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My resolution setting on RC is minimum and filtering at 4. my Darbee is set to 30. On what I watch, I don't see banding so depending on the 2nd law of thermodynamics I just sort of randomly set smooth graduation. I just don't see any differences no matter if off or where set at on. If banding is visible to you, I would set it on to somewhere which makes the banding less apparent. A slight loss of resolution would almost be unnoticeable but banding is ugly. I run at normal aspect because to me the picture appears sharper than at chip aspect 1.85 or 1.89 (the image 2.35 aspect).

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My 1100 has a serial number starting with 11...

And again there is not a manufactured date... Hmmm
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Another unsolved mystery of life.


Still another is why Joerod felt it necessary to blur out the digits of his 1100ES serial number after the 1100. Now that could lead to a really good speculation thread.


Maybe its hot? better, some dealer sold him a unit Sony gave them at a demo price assuming they would hang it in their showroom. That's my guess.
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My 1100 has a serial number starting with 11...

And again there is not a manufactured date... Hmmm
The date code would be at the other end of the label, which is not shown in the photo. One difference is that on mine, below Made in Japan, it is also written Fabrique au Japon.
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The date code would be at the other end of the label, which is not shown in the photo. One difference is that on mine, below Made in Japan, it is also written Fabrique au Japon.
Yup, no date in the other corner. Wonder why they do that on projectors sold elsewhere just not here. My Sony TV has a manufactured date on it. Another mystery....


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Attached is the entire label of my VPL-VW1100ES with the manufacturing date, minus the last two digits of the serial number (to fuel up more speculation by Mark Haflich).

As one can see, there's some language on the label that does not belong to any of the two official languages of Canada. Now, that's some mystery!
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As one can see, there's some language on the label that does not belong to any of the two official languages of Canada. Now, that's some mystery!
Quoting myself!

Mystery solved. Google is my friend. The foreign languages are Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish and Turkish and the text means something along the line: "This device must be connected to a properly grounded power outlet". I suppose you, Americans, are not offered such cosmopolitan projectors.
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