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Thanks guys, I think I'll wait a while longer to see if something new comes up. I've never liked the VW1100 at various shows/dealers and couldn't understand the appeal it has apart from 4K res. This weekend my friend replaced his sim2 with one and I was shocked at how good it looked, it was like a completely different projector from all past setups I've seen.

I'm a fan of 3 chip dlp and didn't imagine leaving that tech. but the Sony comes very close. For my tastes if they can improve ansi contrast/motion a tad more it would close the gap significantly and exceed dlp in other areas (unless laser dlp takes a huge leap forward)... the price point on the Sony is very appealing too and think it will be a fraction of what 1st gen 4K dlp laser units will cost.
It can be hard to judge a projector like the 1100 properly if the set is say at a show or even a dealer that doesn't really know what they're doing. Also, it's hard to know what settings they are running, have they matched up a a good screen quality and size to best show it off etc.

I've def got no issues with contrast between my 1100 and 500. Motion is also something I've heard people comment on, but I really question what they're on about frankly given the results I see on both my Sonys never draw my attention with motion, even in the occasion times I do some gaming with either of them.

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About the only thing I'd like the Sony to improve upon would be better inky native blacks. As it is, I'm still very happy and have 1200 hours on my lamp. Oh yeah, I wish that they'd release some standout 4K content for their servers. Right now, they're not much better than BDs. When compared to some true 4K shorts, you can see that there's room for improvement.
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While I'm eagerly waiting for the UHD Blu rays and the UHD Blu Ray players to hit the market by holiday season this year, I'm worried about not being able to V-Stretch the 4K video since Sony can't v-stretch it. I use an ISCO 1.25x a-lens to generate a 14-ft wide image currently. And I've had tough luck with using Lumagen 2041 -the number of glitches and problems with finicky HDMI cables to random sparkles to any and every problem under the sun has made me remove Lumagen from the loop and all is well. What options would likely be there for V-stretching 4K video later this year (alternatives to Lumagen)?
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It can be hard to judge a projector like the 1100 properly if the set is say at a show or even a dealer that doesn't really know what they're doing. Also, it's hard to know what settings they are running, have they matched up a a good screen quality and size to best show it off etc.

I've def got no issues with contrast between my 1100 and 500. Motion is also something I've heard people comment on, but I really question what they're on about frankly given the results I see on both my Sonys never draw my attention with motion, even in the occasion times I do some gaming with either of them.
This was eye opening though because I've seen it about a dozen times and my friends setup is in a different league. I guess there are too many variables to control.

Gaming is top notch on it. What I meant regarding motion is primarily with film, dlp appears more natural/solid and the image quality is a tad more life like if that makes sense. Lack of V-Stretch would also be an issue for me currently.
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This was eye opening though because I've seen it about a dozen times and my friends setup is in a different league. I guess there are too many variables to control.

Gaming is top notch on it. What I meant regarding motion is primarily with film, dlp appears more natural/solid and the image quality is a tad more life like if that makes sense. Lack of V-Stretch would also be an issue for me currently.
Yeah, very easy for settings to be screwed up or projector simply put into a less than idea preset at the press of a button.

Yeah I've heard people say that. I've had SXRD since the Qualia 004. I did view a high-end Sim model once a little while ago while auditioning a particular speaker and noticed the picture was interesting. To me it had that DLP thing where contrast was excellent with plenty of 'pop', but the image looked at little too digital and not 'film-like' enough. So I can see where DLP enthusiasts want to see that with a 4K like the 1100. Me and I think other SXRD guys value that 'film-like' smoothness over the crisp digital detail of DLP. With V-Stretch, I run 3 different screens all scope nowadays. For the 1100 and 500, I run a preset memory for scope material. I've never been worried about adding lens for it and haven't felt like I've compromised my viewing experience for my 138" and 126" dia screen respectively -although I know some will insist it is.

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To me it had that DLP thing where contrast was excellent with plenty of 'pop', but the image looked at little too digital and not 'film-like' enough. So I can see where DLP enthusiasts want to see that with a 4K like the 1100. Me and I think other SXRD guys value that 'film-like' smoothness over the crisp digital detail of DLP.
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Ok......

Can someone fill me in on HDMI 2.0 already outdated? Recent announcement of 2.0a spec has me worried!

After one year, board update is redundant? If so......
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Ok......

Can someone fill me in on HDMI 2.0 already outdated? Recent announcement of 2.0a spec has me worried!

After one year, board update is redundant? If so......
The main purpose of 2.0A is to add official support for HDR. Since this projector, and most likely no home theater oriented projector for many years, will not be able to do HDR, it doesn't really matter if it has the new HDMI version.
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The main purpose of 2.0A is to add official support for HDR. Since this projector, and most likely no home theater oriented projector for many years, will not be able to do HDR, it doesn't really matter if it has the new HDMI version.

Thanks...........

Makes perfect sense.........someone brought announcement to my attention without elaboration.
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To me it had that DLP thing where contrast was excellent with plenty of 'pop', but the image looked at little too digital and not 'film-like' enough. Me and I think other SXRD guys value that 'film-like' smoothness over the crisp digital detail of DLP.
I could never have said this better. When I fire up my 1100ES, I'm in Heaven. No other technology could reach the film-like picture appearance of SXRD. For someone like me, who uses the HT for watching films almost exclusively, the DLP technology is a no go, because it has that weird digital feel.

As for the not-so-perfect blacks produced by the SXRD panels, remember that film is a transparency medium and perfect blacks are never fully achievable in a cinema either.
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I could never have said this better. When I fire up my 1100ES, I'm in Heaven. No other technology could reach the film-like picture appearance of SXRD. For someone like me, who uses the HT for watching films almost exclusively, the DLP technology is a no go, because it has that weird digital feel.

As for the not-so-perfect blacks produced by the SXRD panels, remember that film is a transparency medium and perfect blacks are never fully achievable in a cinema either.
Spot on there. I think a lot of DLP guys get so hooked up in the look of DLP and quest for perfect blacks, that they forget that a lot of other guys like ourselves actually prize the similarities to film that SXRD has with its image quality.

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I'm not sure what to do myself - I'm just about to place an order for the 1100. It will be imported to here (Israel), and cost more than MSRP due to taxes.

I'm moving in to a new home in two months, and was planning - and would very much like to - have everything installed ahead of moving in.

But... if the next generation announcement is right around the corner, I'd really kick myself for having placed an order just too soon....
Shalom! In my opinion, the 1100ES will be good for a few years from now on, especially for watching films at 24 fps. Historically for Sony, the first generation projectors were very expensive but their quality was high. Subsequent, cheaper models may have had some minor improvements but some important features were also dropped. For instance:

1. Qualia 004 -> Ruby (VPL-VW100), half price but no more high-quality exchangeable lenses -> Pearl (VPL-VW50), half price but no more Xenon lamp.

2. VPL-VW1100ES -> VPL-VW500ES, half price but no more high-quality all-glass lens and fewer lumens -> VPL-VW300ES, half price but no iris and fewer lumens.

It's always a tradeoff between price and features but any projector you'd buy at a given time should last you for at least five years. The biggest improvement in new projectors may be the introduction of 18 Gbps HDMI 2.0 which would allow passing of video signals at 50/60 fps, 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 colour encoding and 10 or 12-bit colour depth. I sincerely don't think we'd see signal sources like that in the next few years.

So, if you've got the budget, you should be fine with a VPL-VW1100ES. I have it and, if I say that the picture it throws is gorgeous, it is an understatement.
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issue with vw1100

got my new vw1100 and while watching i experience a weird issue. see attached photo. it happens very fast less than a second in all movies.

my hdmi cable is monoprice 50 feet active redmere. my player is a popcorn hour a410. any suggestions?
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got my new vw1100 and while watching i experience a weird issue. see attached photo. it happens very fast less than a second in all movies.

my hdmi cable is monoprice 50 feet active redmere. my player is a popcorn hour a410. any suggestions?
50ft is a seriously long run for even active HDMI. That's definitely a sync error. Does it happen on all HDMI sources or have you only tried the popcorn hour?

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50ft is a seriously long run for even active HDMI. That's definitely a sync error. Does it happen on all HDMI sources or have you only tried the popcorn hour?
haven't tried any other sources yet.

what do you recommend for installations 50 feet or more?
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haven't tried any other sources yet.

what do you recommend for installations 50 feet or more?
I think most people here who have had to cope with that distance have gone with HDMI over fiber optic. I've never had to deal with more than about 26 foot of HDMI in any of my systems.

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haven't tried any other sources yet.

what do you recommend for installations 50 feet or more?

Here you go. It's good for 300 plus feet and supports HDCP 2.2


http://www.libertycable.com/products...l-and-ethernet
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Here you go. It's good for 300 plus feet and supports HDCP 2.2


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The only issue is that it's not full 18Gbps. Though I suppose because the VW1100ES can't accept the full 18Gbps throughput of HDMI 2.0 it doesn't really matter.

I suspect for new models announced at CEDIA it will matter more and will necessitate you change that out if you want full compatibility with whatever projector you swap out the 1100es with down the road.
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The only issue is that it's not full 18Gbps. Though I suppose because the VW1100ES can't accept the full 18Gbps throughput of HDMI 2.0 it doesn't really matter.

I suspect for new models announced at CEDIA it will matter more and will necessitate you change that out if you want full compatibility with whatever projector you swap out the 1100es with down the road.

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got my new vw1100 and while watching i experience a weird issue. see attached photo. it happens very fast less than a second in all movies.

my hdmi cable is monoprice 50 feet active redmere. my player is a popcorn hour a410. any suggestions?
Using same cable and have drop outs from time to time on Dish Hopper....................never on Blueray.
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haven't tried any other sources yet.

what do you recommend for installations 50 feet or more?
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