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Reference or proof, please.

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In fact it is Cambridge Audio that uses the Oppo players and rebadge them...
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Reference or proof, please.
Everyone following the industry knows this, but it is hard to find proof and I only fond this...

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That's why I've been somewhat reluctant to get the DMP-UB900, viz. because of the useless (for me) audio analogue output. Too bad the DMP-UB700 would not be sold in North America. So, I'd likely wait for the UDP-X1000ES.
The UB900 does audio over HDMI as well...

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Is the HD Fury really necessary for the VPL-VW1000ES and a UHD BD player?
It is, if you want to get 4K into the projector, otherwise the player will only output 1080p. The HD Fury and the UB900 works very well with the 1000: I use that combo myself at present. And via the switches you can get 4K/SDR into the projector, or even 4D/SDR/2020 if you like. Note, you must use input 2 on the projector to get stable 4K.
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Yes, I've got my VPL-VW1100ES and I love it!

I personally don't get the hype surrounding Oppo. I am not sure how a Chinese brand became so popular with enthusiasts. I understand that it offers high quality analogue 7.1 audio output and reads a lot of formats but, for me, all I need is an HDMI output and BD/DVD/CD read capabilities. I prefer to let my AVR perform all the audio decoding. In fact, it appears that Oppo players are virtually true copies of UK Cambridge Audio players.

That's why I've been somewhat reluctant to get the DMP-UB900, viz. because of the useless (for me) audio analogue output. Too bad the DMP-UB700 would not be sold in North America. So, I'd likely wait for the UDP-X1000ES.

Is the HD Fury really necessary for the VPL-VW1000ES and a UHD BD player?

As for HDR, I struggle to understand if it'd be beneficial to FP. The VPL-VW1100ES is bright enough on low bulb that, especially if my eyes are a little tired, transitions from darker images to brighter images hurt a bit. HDR uses much higher intensity bright peaks and I wonder if these would be comfortable to the eyes in a dark room environment.

On the other hand, I do understand the benefits of HDR for TVs, which typically function in lit environments, not in bat caves.
It's good to hear someone saying something positive about this PJ

Ironically.....I saw posterization on an OLED 65inch(in our local PCWorld Store ) that was displaying HDR material.
Now maybe that particular OLED display was not calibrated properly or if that truly was what HDR is capable of......then i won't be losing too much sleep over not having it on the 1000es.

I have never had an Oppo player before......the only thing that really attracts me to it is the potential ability to do a 4K vertical stretch......that is assuming that it has this capability.

If it does not...... then I will pull the trigger on the Panasonic UHD player.
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Guys I've decided, with my both 1100 and 600 finally on the market, that's its time to cut down the subs and bow out of the 1100 and 600 threads respectively. They've both been great units, but times have moved on for me . Hoping you all continue to enjoy your units however long you keep them!
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Guys I've decided, with my both 1100 and 600 finally on the market, that's its time to cut down the subs and bow out of the 1100 and 600 threads respectively. They've both been great units, but times have moved on for me . Hoping you all continue to enjoy your units however long you keep them!
I will be keeping my 1000es until I can change my name to TheSony8KRises

Enjoy the Z1 or 5000es.......they are on another level.
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Even though it looks like I'll be getting the Z1, I'll be keeping my 1000 too, because I never throw projectors away. I still have my Barco 12" CRT hanging in the old room. It's nice to be able to go back and look at retired projectors, from time to time, and see the progress that has been made.

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I will be keeping my 1000es until I can change my name to TheSony8KRises

Enjoy the Z1 or 5000es.......they are on another level.
he got the Z1.. going to the dark side..

mark - I keep all my projectors as well but the 1100 value in the US was dropping quick so I decided to break even before it was too late.
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he got the Z1.. going to the dark side..

mark - I keep all my projectors as well but the 1100 value in the US was dropping quick so I decided to break even before it was too late.
Wasn't really in doubt soon as the JVC was confirmed. I was also already on the dark side x2 lol

Can't justify having a VW500 plus 1100 hanging around as well as the RS500 and 600. Starting to amass a few too many machines!
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Sold my 1100ES for a fair price considering what I got it for via a good deal from AVS nearly 3 years ago. It was the stupid $2500 upgrade where I took a loss. Sony replaced the optics and board under warranty, and with a new lamp, the buyer basically got a practically new unit. I picked up a new RS500 at near AVID price while the Sony was out for repair, and will enjoy it until the newer models come down in price. Not likely to spend over $10K on a projector again. Any projector, especially expensive ones, lose value too quickly. That's especially painful if you're replacing them every few years.
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Sold my 1100ES for a fair price considering that I got it for via a good deal from AVS nearly 3 years ago. It was the stupid $2500 upgrade were I took a loss. Sony replaced the optics and board under warranty, and with a new lamp, the buyer basically got a practically new unit. I picked up a new RS500 at near AVID price while the Sony was out for repair, and will enjoy it until the newer models come down in price. Not likely to spend over $10K on a projector again. They lose value too quickly, especially if you're replacing them every few years.
No doubt the 1000es has lost a lot of value.....but it's definitely not valueless
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he got the Z1.. going to the dark side..
Well as Obi-Wan said:

"You are going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view"

Check out that Kevin 3000 fellow in the JVC vs Sony thread-----lol
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Even though it looks like I'll be getting the Z1, I'll be keeping my 1000 too, because I never throw projectors away. I still have my Barco 12" CRT hanging in the old room. It's nice to be able to go back and look at retired projectors, from time to time, and see the progress that has been made.
Well if you get the chance to compare the 1000es to the Z1 that would be interesting.
The 1000es is still retailing at $27000 here in the UK.

If anything the 1000es is more a competitor (in terms of price) to the Z1 than the 5000es is.
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Well if you get the chance to compare the 1000es to the Z1 that would be interesting.
The 1000es is still retailing at $27000 here in the UK.

If anything the 1000es is more a competitor (in terms of price) to the Z1 than the 5000es is.
That will certainly be possible. But not until I've watched a few films on the Z1 first All initial comparisons will be based on the recent memory of the 1000, which will be taken down the day the Z1 goes up.

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Hello Mark,

you running the VW 1000 with the Pro Scaler, do you get now the WCG and HDR by creating a 3 D LUT "Profil" for the VW 1000 ?
There are a few guys in germany working on it, but so far no countable results.

I really like the Rec 709 picture of my VW 1100 + ISCO 1.25...but I give up weeks ago, because i get HDR and 2020 with the UB 900+ Fury, but a totally faded picture. So i always of an eye at the Pro

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I only have enough light output on my screen to do UHD/SDR/709 with the 1000.

But, once Lumagen/CalMAN release the HDR->SDR LUT mapping update, I will certainly explore HDR/WGC further, although perhaps by then I will have the JVC Z1 installed.

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thanks Mark i think the Cal update is out, but from Lightspace.
Unfortunaly i to dumb for this, i read this only in the net. but i still hope there is a tech solution.

P.S: Saw the Z1 demo at IFA OMG
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I only have enough light output on my screen to do UHD/SDR/709 with the 1000.

But, once Lumagen/CalMAN release the HDR->SDR LUT mapping update, I will certainly explore HDR/WGC further, although perhaps by then I will have the JVC Z1 installed.
So this update will include both new software from Calman and Lumagen right? Is there any timeline for the Lumagen update?
And i assume it will only be a software upgrade for the Calman Home package(s)?
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Certainly Lumagen and CalMAN (and anybody else) will need to update their software for this to work. Hope it's not CalMAN Home only, as I use Studio. No idea on timelines.

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Here's an issue I'm running into with my 1100ES + Lumagen Radiance Pro + Panasonic UHD Player when playing 3D discs. I'm seeing a thin black ribbon-like thing streak across from the top of the screen to the left hand-side of the screen at the top - like a quick - fraction-of-a-second flicker - seems to happen for about 30-45 mins of playback - every 10 seconds or so - it's so quick it's not exactly totally distracting but still annoying....Is this a PJ issue, Lumagen Radiance Pro issue, or the blu-ray player issue? I also have the Oppo-103D bluray player. I, of course, haven't had a chance to connect direct from PJ to the blu-ray player, etc. and do some testing - and don't remember if it happens with Oppo as well. But it happens with 3D playback only. I'm close to 1,500 hrs on the 1100ES PJ lamp. Any one else encountered this?

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I am very well aware of this. But I do not want to pay a premium for the analogue audio output which I know I will never use.

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The UB900 does audio over HDMI as well...
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Are you trying to say that without an HD Fury I would not be able to get 4K resolution from an UB900 into the VW1100ES directly? I sincerely doubt this.

I might be wrong, but I think the HD Fury is primarily used for stripping the HDCP metadata from the signal as well as the HDR data in order to get 4K/WC. What else is it used for?

My understanding was that the UB900 can output 4K/SDR which should be accepted by the VW1100ES. Am I wrong?

What I'm not sure about is whether the UB900->VW1100ES image is acceptable as I've read that other players (i.e. Samsung) have problems big time due the type of output they're providing.

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It is, if you want to get 4K into the projector, otherwise the player will only output 1080p. The HD Fury and the UB900 works very well with the 1000: I use that combo myself at present. And via the switches you can get 4K/SDR into the projector, or even 4D/SDR/2020 if you like. Note, you must use input 2 on the projector to get stable 4K.
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I love it! ❤️ It's a fantastic projector.

I have not seen posterization on mine. But I keep both Reality Creation controls at their minimum settings because I feel that they're too aggressive on the VW1100ES. The RC engine can induce strong posterization-like effects in the projected image, so they should be used with care.

Despite this, I have seen some image artifacts on the VW1100ES which someone might interpret as very mild posterization but they are absolutely identical with what I see on my two other displays (TC-P65ZT65 plasma TV and TV-P65VT50 plasma TV connected to a different Blu-ray player) and was identical to my old but much dimmer VW60 which I sold. So I concluded that these were Blu-ray disc compression artifacts, not projector posterization effects. It's only that the VW1100ES make them a tad more visible due to its increased brightness.

Perhaps it was also Blu-ray compression artifacts that you saw on those OLED displays, not panel posterization.


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It's good to hear someone saying something positive about this PJ

Ironically.....I saw posterization on an OLED 65inch(in our local PCWorld Store ) that was displaying HDR material.
Now maybe that particular OLED display was not calibrated properly or if that truly was what HDR is capable of......then i won't be losing too much sleep over not having it on the 1000es.

I have never had an Oppo player before......the only thing that really attracts me to it is the potential ability to do a 4K vertical stretch......that is assuming that it has this capability.

If it does not...... then I will pull the trigger on the Panasonic UHD player.
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I am asking this again, hopefully someone in the know would respond:

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Have there ever been any firmware updates for the VPL-VW1100ES? If yes, how are these being done since this PJ model does not have a USB port? What are the latest firmware versions?

This is what mine displays (manufactured in Nov. 2014):
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I am asking this again, hopefully someone in the know would respond:
The 1000/1100 was not designed for field firmware upgrades - so it's not possible, short of sending it to Sony I suppose for some repair reason

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What I'm not sure about is whether the UB900->VW1100ES image is acceptable as I've read that other players (i.e. Samsung) have problems big time due the type of output they're providing.

I haven't had any 4K playback issues with Samsung on my 1100. I go straight from the Samsung to the projector. The Samsung is quirky with poor user interface but a good player.
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Are you trying to say that without an HD Fury I would not be able to get 4K resolution from an UB900 into the VW1100ES directly? I sincerely doubt this.
No. Use input 2 and you should be able to do UHD/SDR/2020 into the 1100 just fine. No HDR though.

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No. Use input 2 and you should be able to do UHD/SDR/2020 into the 1100 just fine. No HDR though.
Hello Mark,

I always get faded colours with this Combination UB 900 - Fury at 4k 24p SDR/2020 - HDR off -VW 1100 .
Did you watch movies this way ? My results with 4k 24p SDR/709 was much better anytime, maybe i did something wrong that time ?

After a while I give up and sold my UB 900 (waiting for the Oppo) and now replayed my Fury for a Linker.

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No. Use input 2 and you should be able to do UHD/SDR/2020 into the 1100 just fine. No HDR though.
What colorspace are you yousing on the VW1100?
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I use a 1000, HDFury, and Rec 709 colourspace.

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