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mookie b's Avatar mookie b 10:28 PM 05-14-2012
Found it for you:

Originally Posted by zombie10k
These are the correct filter #'s for the Sony kids glasses.

145831421 for the BR50
145839511 for the BR250

(239) 768-7547

samalmoe's Avatar samalmoe 10:30 PM 05-14-2012
i agree with mr. joerod...you have to set the darbee very low to avoid noise, and the improvement is very subtle. it's much better with dvd's and probably even better with tv. for bluray i'd probably pass. that's with my setup
Murat's Avatar Murat 11:39 PM 05-14-2012
Are there any small glasses for kids that are compatible with this pj?

I find it quite impractical to buy non compatible glasses and try to get a difficult to find filter and attach them to the glasses
OzHDHT's Avatar OzHDHT 06:58 AM 05-15-2012
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just watched a bluray with the darbee and the improvement is very subtle on my setup, and since i never download, stream or watch tv i think i will just sell it. I'm sure others will find it quite useful

I was curious when this device was mentioned the other day. It kind of sounds by your description to be what software renderers like Madvr do on PC. Guess for a setup like mine where I rely on such software for file playback on a daily basis, darbee would be mostly redundant as well. I do wonder whether it might be of benefit with Sat TV, which I watch on occasion, mainly for sports vs already having tweaked RC mode to suit. I note joerod is getting one to test. I've just checked out the dedicated thread.
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 08:11 AM 05-15-2012
Joerod was it you that said the Monster/Optoma glasses are a significant improvement in 3d with the 1000 vs the stock glasses that come with it? What is improved?
zombie10k's Avatar zombie10k 08:21 AM 05-15-2012
joe will have to answer on the 1000, but the HW30 uses the same glasses. I was able to further tune out some visible ghosting as seen here:

Sony Factory glasses vs. Monster VIsion 3D

i'm still waiting for my commission check from Monster, no one used these glasses until the post above, then they spread like wildfire through the forum.
joerod's Avatar joerod 08:31 AM 05-15-2012
Zombie definitely deserves at least a free Hdmi cable or two from Monster. That's for sure.
zombie10k's Avatar zombie10k 08:50 AM 05-15-2012
Joe - do you still use the MV3D's over the Sony's on the 1000, or do they perform similar?
joerod's Avatar joerod 09:26 AM 05-15-2012
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Joe - do you still use the MV3D's over the Sony's on the 1000, or do they perform similar?

We use Monsters 95% of the time. When one runs out of battery or we have more guests we go to the Sonys. We still have a couple BR50s for kids just in case too.

The Monsters are just way more comfortable and do not pinch the bridge of your nose. Plus no matter what they don't lose sync.
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 10:27 AM 05-15-2012
Did I read somewhere that there is some setup time involved with the Monsters? That they dont just sync and work "out of the box?"
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 10:30 AM 05-15-2012
And do the Monsters cause a different color shift than the Sonys? So if I calibrated through the glasses with one, would grayscale or colors be off with the other?
joerod's Avatar joerod 05:15 PM 05-15-2012
Darblet DarbeeVision Review done. Go to my homepage (click on my name to the left then click on my Homepage) to check it out.
OzHDHT's Avatar OzHDHT 05:29 PM 05-15-2012
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Joerod was it you that said the Monster/Optoma glasses are a significant improvement in 3d with the 1000 vs the stock glasses that come with it? What is improved?

Joerod was guy who ended getting me across to the MV3Ds after much time being an xpand x103, then x104 owner. The MV3Ds r still the glasses to beat. I've got 3 pairs now. The RF conv is the only part to setup. Was much easier than it initially sounded. I have mine setup near screen as its the easiest way to receive the IR signal from the 1000.

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Darblet DarbeeVision Review done. Go to my homepage (click on my name to the left then click on my Homepage) to check it out.

Cool going to check it out now. Thanks Joe!
DigsMovies's Avatar DigsMovies 06:01 PM 05-15-2012
If I hard wire IR control to the Sony 1000 using the mini-jack input on the unit, are the normal front and rear IR receivers on the unit still active, or are they bypassed when the mini-jack input is used? Didn't see the answer to this in the manual. Thanks!
-Digs
BrianMundt's Avatar BrianMundt 02:57 AM 05-16-2012
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Originally Posted by thrang View Post

Here's the banding with Film Projection mode OFF - fairly obvious just above the halfway point

Here's what it looks like after switching Film Projection Mode on: Main band almost seems to split into to, dropping below the halfway point, and smaller greenish band appears about a 1/5 from the top

Here's my cold start-up misconvergence. Take about 10 minutes to clear

Any updates from Sony? Do you know if they fixed the banding issue yet?
turls's Avatar turls 07:50 AM 05-16-2012
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

Found it for you:

Originally Posted by zombie10k
These are the correct filter #'s for the Sony kids glasses.

145831421 for the BR50
145839511 for the BR250

(239) 768-7547

Thanks I found the posts you were referring to, before I checked here again, there is actually some good discussion on where to order from if you want other options

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post21571246

Although I just tried to sign up for ServicesPLUS and got an error, so I guess I will just call.

I found the BR50s on eBay for less than $35 shipped and those are going to be a lot better for a 4 year old.
mookie b's Avatar mookie b 08:42 AM 05-16-2012
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Thanks I found the posts you were referring to, before I checked here again, there is actually some good discussion on where to order from if you want other options

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post21571246

Although I just tried to sign up for ServicesPLUS and got an error, so I guess I will just call.

I found the BR50s on eBay for less than $35 shipped and those are going to be a lot better for a 4 year old.

I ordered them online from sony's parts page. They work great with the 3 BR50's I have. I was going to go the RF route with Monsters, ran a cable and everything....but found the Sony glasses that come with the projector and br50 with lenses work great. We don't lose sync and they're comfortable to us.

Speaking of 3D, I picked up that IMAX 3D Born to be Wild to watch with my kids and for an intro to 3d movie for my mom....EVERYONE loved it. If you haven't checked that out, that's the best 3D I've seen yet. My mom kept saying "I had no idea this is what 3D is like!"
joerod's Avatar joerod 09:06 AM 05-16-2012
We love Born To Be Wild!
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 09:24 AM 05-16-2012
I would be careful letting young children watch much 3d... there a numerous studies done that state it can have a negative effect on developing eyes. I believe by the time they are 7 or 8 its pretty safe, but I haven't really let my 5 year old participate in many 3d viewings. Maybe one or two that I can remember.

It may be fine...who knows... but I figure I would rather be safe than sorry.
zombie10k's Avatar zombie10k 09:58 AM 05-16-2012
The BR50's are great for kids. We had some visitors and they watched Journey to the center of the Earth (wow, what a campy movie)

I find the MV3D's much more comfortable than the factory Sony glasses.


DigsMovies's Avatar DigsMovies 04:25 PM 05-16-2012
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Originally Posted by DigsMovies View Post

If I hard wire IR control to the Sony 1000 using the mini-jack input on the unit, are the normal front and rear IR receivers on the unit still active, or are they bypassed when the mini-jack input is used? Didn't see the answer to this in the manual. Thanks!
-Digs

For the record, did a little experimenting today and discovered that when the mini-jack IR input is used on the Sony 1000, the normal IR receiver on the unit is bypassed (inactive). I've got everything hooked up to a Xantech system now and loving it! PJ, PreAmp, Oppo are all hard wired (no emitters). 12V control for 4 amps and a Sub.
adidino's Avatar adidino 04:26 PM 05-16-2012
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

The BR50's are great for kids. We had some visitors and they watched Journey to the center of the Earth (wow, what a campy movie)

I find the MV3D's much more comfortable than the factory Sony glasses.


nice little collection
audiovideoholic's Avatar audiovideoholic 08:50 PM 05-16-2012
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

I would be careful letting young children watch much 3d... there a numerous studies done that state it can have a negative effect on developing eyes. I believe by the time they are 7 or 8 its pretty safe, but I haven't really let my 5 year old participate in many 3d viewings. Maybe one or two that I can remember.

It may be fine...who knows... but I figure I would rather be safe than sorry.

Wow. I havent heard about this and when I first got my samsung pn64d8000 my 5 year old daughter literally watched 2 or 3 movies a day for a few weeks straight. She hasnt been watching much lately since I moved that set to the bar room but will have to look into it as I'll finally be hooking up the Sony this weekend hopefully!
adidino's Avatar adidino 09:37 PM 05-16-2012
Anyone using a HTPC with their VW1000? I'm play some of my BD movies using TMT 5 and I notice the picture is several steps brighter (not in a good way) vs my Oppo. Blacks are washed out. I have to drop the brightness from 49 to 39 to get it to look right.

Any ideas? At first I thought it had something to do with the dynamic range (255 vs 235) but I have HDMI settings set to limited.

Everything looks great on the Oppo.

HTPC w/ NVIDIA GT430
OzHDHT's Avatar OzHDHT 09:51 PM 05-16-2012
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

Anyone using a HTPC with their VW1000? I'm play some of my BD movies using TMT 5 and I notice the picture is several steps brighter (not in a good way) vs my Oppo. Blacks are washed out. I have to drop the brightness from 49 to 39 to get it to look right.

Any ideas? At first I thought it had something to do with the dynamic range (255 vs 235) but I have HDMI settings set to limited.

Everything looks great on the Oppo.

HTPC w/ NVIDIA GT430

Yep I believe I've mentioned my HTPC setup several times. I use it daily for file playback. I use my Oppo as the dedicated Bluray player though, as I don't believe TMT 5 or any other software player is better alternative. I find I have usually with file playback notch the blacks up from 50 to 51 or on occasion 52 as levels can be a bit down using PC video levels. If set to TV output range, then yes washout def occurs for me. This has been the case with all my HTPC/proj usage over years.
adidino's Avatar adidino 09:55 AM 05-17-2012
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Originally Posted by OzHDHT View Post

Yep I believe I've mentioned my HTPC setup several times. I use it daily for file playback. I use my Oppo as the dedicated Bluray player though, as I don't believe TMT 5 or any other software player is better alternative. I find I have usually with file playback notch the blacks up from 50 to 51 or on occasion 52 as levels can be a bit down using PC video levels. If set to TV output range, then yes washout def occurs for me. This has been the case with all my HTPC/proj usage over years.


I'm having the opposite issue. Black levels look fine on my Oppo. When I switch to my htpc (using the same input on the V1000, I need to lower the brightness from around 48 to 38).
OzHDHT's Avatar OzHDHT 08:24 AM 05-18-2012
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I'm having the opposite issue. Black levels look fine on my Oppo. When I switch to my htpc (using the same input on the V1000, I need to lower the brightness from around 48 to 38).

Yeah so as I was getting at you need to make sure ur pc is outputting PC video levels. Decoders like coreavc allow u to switch between video and pc levels in their output menu. You should be able to check the level type in the player software as well. I haven't looked for the setting in TMT 5. It can always be found somewhere, you just have to find what part of your software chain is controlling it. Once I found it for example in coreavc, I haven't had any issues with other software outputting video levels instead of PC levels. Just do a bit of digging and you'll uncover what's controlling output levels. Don't rule out the videocard driver itself as well.
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 01:19 PM 05-18-2012
Since Joerod always tells us what movie he is watching in this thread, I get to share this Bluray news I have been waiting for for a long time.
From the Digitalbits:

Wes Anderson's The Royal Tenenbaums (Cat #157) come to Blu Ray on 8/14.

My favorite movie!!!

Maybe I will be finished with my new theater in time...
joerod's Avatar joerod 02:13 PM 05-18-2012
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Since Joerod always tells us what movie he is watching in this thread, I get to share this Bluray news I have been waiting for for a long time.
From the Digitalbits:

Wes Anderson's The Royal Tenenbaums (Cat #157) come to Blu Ray on 8/14.

My favorite movie!!!

Maybe I will be finished with my new theater in time...

One of my all time favorites! Love the soundtrack too!!!
BrianMundt's Avatar BrianMundt 04:54 PM 05-18-2012
Just ordered my VW1000ES! I'll be joining the club very soon!
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