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post #1 of 16 Old 10-23-2011, 08:57 PM - Thread Starter
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I created this thread so that anyone that has a browser issue, graphical or otherwise can confirm their browser version.

www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com

It is going to be hard to keep track of in the other thread, let's keep this thread ONLY about browser issues or other bugs in the calculator program. Please also include a screenshot of your issue if you have time, if not I understand.


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I just tried some quick tests and found some problems, specifically with the"Shelf Mount" option, which I use.

I'm using Firefox 7.0.1 on a Windows XP Netbook. I haven't tried my other notebook, with Windows 7 & Firefox 7.0.1. BTW, my preferred OS is Linux, and the Firefox version on it is only 6.x.x (??) -- Mozilla hasn't upgraded the Linux version to 7, yet. When I get a chance, I will try it anyway, and let you know how that works.

Problem: I tried a Mitsubishi HC4000 & HC7800 and a Panasonic AE7000. When trying to select a "Shelf Mount", the graphic still references the PJ to a "Ceiling Mount". When I tried to refresh the page, it drops the PJ model and I can't seem to get it back. I have to select a different mfg. and then I start all over (from a Ceiling mount) again.

It looks like the Shelf mount option is broken, as of this version. I can certainly work around this "bug", but I thought you should know about it.

PS -- I didn't spend a lot of time with it, but didn't spot where the "Lens Shift" control box is. Otherwise, it looks good (lots of "bells 7 whistles").

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Thanks for the info.

You are missing the lens shift box?

It is on the left side of the grid but perhaps if your laptop is in a lower resolution, the graphics placement bug is causing some things on the form to be missing.

There are some odd reports of graphical issues and I have seen a couple myself, but nothing as severe as your description. I will test this on a laptop with a smaller screen and see if I can replicate. However, I think the problems are due to an invalid object occasionally in the way due to a graphic's placement bug after code obfuscation post-deployment. These issues started after I deployed the code and do not seem to occur in my developer pre-obfuscated code.

In such cases (a "rogue" object in an incorrect position), the results can be varying between users depending on resolution. So hopefully after I get rid of this problem, most peoples' graphical issues are likely to be resolved.


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My boo-boo. In my quick look, I missed the "Set Advanced Modifiers" in the lower left corner (I should have looked at your post #47, in the other thread, more closely).

The smaller screen on my netbook didn't seem to effect your Calc screen (I just have to scroll it, V & H, to see it all).

BTW, the Firefox version, on my Linux OS, is 3.6.23 (actually 6.23). Your Calc screen doesn't work on it - the boxes in the lower left corner are all "overprinted" and the "picture graphic" has its bottom squished. My laptop screen is 1600 x 1200. Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to use Windows 7, instead (with FF 7.0.1). This laptop is set up for Dual Booting (Windows & Linux). My previous post was made on the netbook.

My comment on the graphic showing only vertical distances referenced from the ceiling, still stands (even with "Shelf Mount" selected). No biggie, for me anyway. I can always shift the numbers (by 8' 6").

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The screen mount will be changed to a horizontal graphic underneath, so I'm going to update this anyhow, I am not getting that same issue though. Thanks for the info on the Linux issue, I'll look into this towards end of the beta, since any of the changes to graphics I make could automatically fix it or break it more, the browser compatibility code I add at end of beta (around Beta v.09) is going to address these types of issues if any are still left.

Glad to hear the lens shift works for you, as the vertical lens shift was a really tough design idea to come up with, it moves as you change ceiling and floor height, and it is range based from center point or top/bottom. The computations occurring for this to work smoothly are fairly intense so I am glad I do not need to patch this.


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Just another observation (after fooling around some more, AE7000 & HC7800):

The best operation is with FF 7.0.1 and Windows 7. The lens offset slider (left side of graphic) works better under Windows 7. I suspect it has to do with the interface between FF & Windows XP (a little clunkier). BTW, my XP is 32-bit and W 7 is 64-bit (that shouldn't make a difference, though).

Also, the "Set Advanced Modifiers" section (lower left of the web page) doesn't seem to be functional yet. Although the "Offset" box does seem to react to the PJ selection. The "Shelf Mount" operation still needs some work.

Aside from these "niggling" bugs, it's looking very good. It's obvious that you've put in lots of work. Thank you.

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That's odd, all my calculations on the bottom left are updated in real-time when I change any of the modifiers in FF 7 on Windows 7.

Can you describe an example of the modifier not working?

If I change the throw, the throw slider is auto-updated.
If I change the zoom, the zoom bar is auto-updated, etc...
All others also seem to work for me. There is one minor bug with the V-SHIFT down, when you first change it sometimes it resets to 0, but changing it a second time will work.

Other than that one field, I am not aware of any other bugs in the modifiers, so please elaborate if possible, thanks...


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Hi coderguy,

Your screen calculator is awesome...way better than the one on Projector Central. And I'm sure whoever wrote theirs got paid big bucks. You should post a way for us to send donations.

I did notice one bug on v.02 Beta. When changing between the "2.35" and "2.35(lens)" screen settings, the fL results are the same. Shouldn't the 2.35 display without an anamorphic lens have 34% less lumens/fLs?

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The 2.35 lens mode is bugged out, look for an update in the next release.
To keep people from choosing the anamorphic lens modes, I have now removed this feature entirely until the bugs are out.
I meant to remove it long ago, just didn't get around to it until now.


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So is it correct for the brightness to be derated 34% for 2.35 displays without an a-lens? I'm having this discussion now in the DIY screen forum.

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About 10% to 15% is the number I've heard, but if you hear otherwise, let me know as I'm not absolutely certain that the info I had was the most accurate.


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the only thing I'm basing the 34% on is that's the percentage of PJ lines that are blanked out when going from 16:9 to 2.35.
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Nope, it's only around 12% gain is what AVS told me officially to use a LENS vs NO LENS. In the forums I have seen people say 10% to 15%.


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ok, thx
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New Minor Release with Bug Fixes

Version Beta 0.21 (prev. version was 0.2)

*2.35 Offset calculations now work correctly across the board

*Switching between 2.35 and 16:9 mode automatically corrects the offset based on overshooting method
(really the only way you can display 2.35 content on a 2.35 screen with a 16:9 lens)

*Epson 3010 and 5010 Lumen Specifications have been Updated

*Benq w7000 and Acer 9500bd now added to calculator (20+ other projectors being added soon!)

*Rounding bugs fixed and Throw ratios are no longer shown 0.01 to 0.02 off

*Throw ratios now reverted back to MFR specs for most PJ's since rounding bug has been addressed

*Anamorphic Lens calculations temporarily removed until Beta 03 to address further issues here


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Web Calculator v023 & v025
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cg, did you change any of the parameters for the mitsu hc9000 recently?

entirely possible it's user error, but i seemto be getting slightly different results than before...

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