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Wow, this is a great projector. Image is sharp as a razor, bright, and has very good contrast. A major upgrade from my Infocus 777/Kodak 333. Have not tried the 3D yet, just not that interested in 3D really. Avscience is a great company to do business with. I'm no expert and have not seen a lot of different projectors, but I can not imagine anything better than Sim2.
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Wow, this is a great projector. Image is sharp as a razor, bright, and has very good contrast. A major upgrade from my Infocus 777/Kodak 333. Have not tried the 3D yet, just not that interested in 3D really. Avscience is a great company to do business with. I'm no expert and have not seen a lot of different projectors, but I can not imagine anything better than Sim2.

I'll trade you my Sony VPL-VW95ES for it...
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I'll trade you my Sony VPL-VW95ES for it...

I don't think you are going to get a reply.

Richard, I bet it takes a long time to wipe the grin off your face, every time you turn on your projector. Enjoy.

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Congratulations on your new projector. Curious if you have noticed any separation artifacts?
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Also congrats on your projector. Looking forward to more impressions as this projector seems to be the one
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Congratulations on your new projector. Curious if you have noticed any separation artifacts?

I have not noticed any rainbow effect.
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Great projector. Do you remember what it retails for?

I am sure you will have loads of fun with it. I am currious as to how many lumens it is calibrated.

Enjoy your new "toy."

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Congrats on the new Sim 2. I have seen the Nero 3D 1 in both 2D and 3D and was very impressed with it.
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Congrats. We have had our Nero for a few weeks now and are very pleased with its fidelity. Had a customer buy one already; I am hoping the other doesn't sell before my theater is completed so that I can use it for myself .

It is extremely good on strobing (rainblow). I have only seen it slightly on test patterns and that has been it. And I am super sensitive to it.

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Great projector. Do you remember what it retails for?

I am sure you will have loads of fun with it. I am currious as to how many lumens it is calibrated.

Enjoy your new "toy."


Sim2 Nero 3D-1 $19,900 to $21,850 MSRP depending on lens choice.
Sim2 Nero 3D-2 $24,900 to $26,750 MSRP depending on lens choice.

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Sim2 Nero 3D-1 $19,900 to $21,850 MSRP depending on lens choice.
Sim2 Nero 3D-2 $24,900 to $26,750 MSRP depending on lens choice.

I guess I won't be looking at getting one of these any time soon.
Is this the lowest price any of the Sim2 DLP get?

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Sim2 starts at much lower rates. Not much lower retail, but you can get them at lower rates.

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I guess I won't be looking at getting one of these any time soon.
Is this the lowest price any of the Sim2 DLP get?

No, there is the Crystal line that goes down to $7K or so depending on the model.

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But that is 2D only. But its a nice bright 2D.
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No, there is the Crystal line that goes down to $7K or so depending on the model.

Are these color wheel based DLP?

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Are these color wheel based DLP?

Yes.

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But that is 2D only. But its a nice bright 2D.

There is an easy fix to that. You can put on the glasses and pretend you are watching 3-D.

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Are these color wheel based DLP?

As was just noted, they are. We did a side-by-side against our JVC and the visual impact was amazing. Lots more light and sharper picture. It loses on absolute black level but the high brightness gives you subjectively the same if not better in most scenes. It does have more strobing than Nero so if you are ultra sensitive to that, it may not be the right choice.

The machine is also beautifully finished.

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This pj is spec'ed at 2000 lumens. Does anyone know what it produces calibrated for correct colors, i.e., at D65? Also what its native CR is?
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I've been a long time lurker on the forums. We completed new construction - which included a dedicated theater room - over a year ago. I've been reading the forums almost daily trying to decide on what to buy. Thanks for all the (often entertaining) help and advice...

I desired a larger AT screen (140-144 wide 16:9) - and needed enough light output. First row seating is about 10 ft, second row/primary seating 16 ft. I decided to go with the Sim2 Nero 3D2. I'm still deciding on a screen. I constructed a temporary screen from 2 x 4 framing using 8 ft x 12 ft material from Home Depot (forum rules prevent posting URLs for first 3 posts: Model # 633792 Store SKU # 633792). The temp screen is approx 140 wide 16:9. The material is stretched around the frame and stapled to the back side of the frame.

Total cost of temporary screen was less than $35, including lumber and corner bracesThere is a seam down the centerwith scattered splotches and color irregularities

I fired up the 3D2 and was amazed at the picture. I changed the setting for the lamp to the lowest (230W) for 2D and it is plenty bright. I don't know if the lamp setting remains the same for 3D or is separately adjustable. I'll check the next time I have a chance.

I plugged in the 3D emitter and tried on the 3D glasses. My 3D selection was limited to Green Lantern at that time. I've since added Tangled.

My family was amazed - as was I - with the 3D image. We didn't have any issues with 3D brightness. No flicker. No Rainbows. No ghosting. No visual fatigue or headaches. Like the OP, I initially was not interested in 3D, but I'm extremely pleased that I gave it a try.

I don't own any video measuring or calibration equipment, but to my eyes the out of the box settings were excellent. I lowered the lamp to the lowest setting (230W) and I did not notice much of a difference between 230/240/250/260/270/280 watt settings in 2D. I don't know calibrated lumen output, screen gain etc. But I like it a lot...

If it wasn't for the seam down the center of the screen, I would have a difficult time convincing the Controller to allocate funds for the real deal

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I too just received a new Sim2 Nero 3D-2. It will be replacing my Marantz VP-15S1 projector. I have an ISCO anamorphic lens already and will be using it with the Nero. Install should happen in the next week or two. Until then, I am anxiously anticipating and reading all impressions I can find online. I have seen one demo at my dealer's showroom and was very impressed with 2D and blown away by the 3D images it produced. Prior to that demo I had little to no interest in 3D. I'll post my impressions once installed. Please keep the commentary flowing as it is great to read about other's impressions while i await my install.
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Are these machines Darkship 4 or 3? I'm contemplating the NERO 3D-2, but since my Marantz VP-11S2 is Darkship 4, I'm not sure about the upgrade.

I saw the NERO 3D-2 at Cedia this year and was very impressed by its brightness. Black levels were ok, but not better than my Marantz.
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Well I know for a fact that Sim2 was using the Dark Chip 4 in their 3 chippers back in 2009.
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1-Chip DarkChip 4 Full HD (1080P)

From the spec sheet.
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Yes, the Nero most definitely uses DC4. Not sure why they don't say it on their web site but I confirmed with them just now and they said the same.

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I saw the NERO 3D-2 at Cedia this year and was very impressed by its brightness. Black levels were ok, but not better than my Marantz.

Interesting. Did they have Dynamic Black Enabled?
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4 people just got this projector on this forum new? Hope they don't go all out of stock.
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4 people just got this projector on this forum new? Hope they don't go all out of stock.

At such a cheap price, can you blame them?
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Wow, this is a great projector. Image is sharp as a razor, bright, and has very good contrast. A major upgrade from my Infocus 777/Kodak 333. Have not tried the 3D yet, just not that interested in 3D really. Avscience is a great company to do business with. I'm no expert and have not seen a lot of different projectors, but I can not imagine anything better than Sim2.

Pictures or it didn't happen!!!
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4 people just got this projector on this forum new? Hope they don't go all out of stock.

Now come on that is a bit of an exaggeration. Only 3 are new

But I agree. Lets get some pictures in this thread.

This projector seems to have everything I need and may finally be a worthy successor finally to my Marantz VP-15S1.
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