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post #31 of 391 Old 12-15-2011, 04:08 PM
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I got my 6010 with the mounting bracket, extra lamp and additional one year warranty locally from Shear Systems in Metairie/New Orleans, Louisiana. I like to support local vendors whenever possible.

The 6010 has so many lumens I am seriously giving thought to replacing my 10' Stewart Filmscreen Studiotek 130 with a 13' or 14' (diagonal) new Stewart screen - possibly one with their 3D compatible materials. How do I know it will support a screen that large? At 17.5' from the screen I zoomed the picture size to near max and the portion of the image bleeding off the screen onto the (beige) wall surrounding the screen is still very bright and this is while the lamp is set for econo mode.

This is by far the brightest non-commercial grade projector I have ever had in my home (not a bat cave) theater and I will finally be able to "light up" nearly the entire wall with excellent high definition 1080p video.

After setting it at near max zoom and getting an approximately 14' image and then backing it down to the 10' on screen imageI have had for the last six years I felt like I had moved from a movie theater back to watching a very big TV set.

I was far more submersed in the 14' image (sitting at about 15') than the 10' image (at the same sitting distance). With the 6010 we have a pro class projector that can give a real home theater, very large screen experience plus it is backed up by a solid company with a three year unit exchange warranty. Panasonic only has a one year warranty and the unit has to be sent back to them for repair. When I had Panasonic projectors on two different occasions it took three weeks to get them back.

Have not tested the 3D yet. Need to do a bit of rewiring to get that working.

The 6010 has a LCD panel pixel alignment function. I checked it out but the panels are so darn well aligned I didn't bother with adjusting it.

More later.
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I got my 6010 Wednesday and got it up last night. I have an old Stewart 110" gray hawk screen and since it has a 0.8 gain was concerned about brightness. I am really happy with how bright the 6010 is. No problem there at all. Overall I am very pleased with the picture. I can only compare it to my old JVC RS20. The RS20 does have better blacks but only very slightly. The RS20 has a slightly sharper image but again only slightly. The 6010 colors are beautiful and the image really pops. The 3D images are really nice and clean. I can verify that the 6010 works fine with the Directv 3D channels. I just bought a Panasonic 215 blu ray player but still need to get a 3D movie. The mount Epson uses for the 6010 is a chief 2500. It is a really nice well made mount and worth the cost if you get the 5010. If anyone wants to know anything else just ask.
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I can verify that the 6010 works fine with the Directv 3D channels. I just bought a Panasonic 215 blu ray player but still need to get a 3D movie. The mount Epson uses for the 6010 is a chief 2500. It is a really nice well made mount and worth the cost if you get the 5010. If anyone wants to know anything else just ask.

I can't seem to find in the menus on my HR20 (or 21, can't recall which) anything to fine tune the DTV 3d image. For my BlurRay Player (Oppo) and my Xbox I can set the screen size, with DTV I can't seem to and the 3d there doesn't seem all that great. On the BluRay I'm blown away (Cars2 and Tangled now) so far I've tried it in the new Halo on the Xbox and while impressive Id on't think I could play the game that way.
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If I am right only the HR21 is 3d compatible the HR20 is not.
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I just ordered the 6010 locally, it was 3000.00, that's only 300 more then the 5010 was going for which I was originally going to get , it was a no brainer for me, extra yr warranty,extra bulb,glasses and a mount , that would of defiantly added up more then 300. It's also about time we get these projectors in Canada the same price as we would in the US, I can't wait to try it out
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Spent last night mounting the 6010 on the ceiling and running a 30' high speed HDMI cable from my Marantz HDMI 1.4 compatible receiver to it.

Fired up my Samsung 3D capable BluRay player, popped in "Megamind," put on my 3d glasses and WOW!!!!! WOW!!!!!! WOW!!!!!

I have the latest Samsung 55" 8000 series 3D LCD/LED TV set which has very good 3D but with the 14' (yes foot) image covering nearly my entire wall I just jumped from 3D TV to a 3D theater in my home. There just is no comparison. On top of that this is brighter and sharper than any 3D I have experienced at the local theaters which use the allegedly superior Real 3d scheme.

The 3D on this projector will blow you away and you won't ever look back at your 3D TV sets. Rather than looking at 3D you are submerged in 3D. The image comes out into the room at you.

On the debate between the 5010 model and the 6010 - if you break it down the 6010 is a far better buy with its extra spare lamp ($300), extra year of warranty ($400) and a really great customized heavy duty ceiling mount ($300). These add up to $1000 but on top of those extras the 6010 has THX certification and can also do the anamorphic bit too. Neither are available or can be added to the 5010.
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On the debate between the 5010 model and the 6010 - if you break it down the 6010 is a far better buy with its extra spare lamp ($300), extra year of warranty ($400) and a really great customized heavy duty ceiling mount ($300). These add up to $1000 but on top of those extras the 6010 has THX certification and can also do the anamorphic bit too. Neither are available or can be added to the 5010.

I have to agree about the value, I purchased locally and actually got some off as opposed to the 5010 that was at the MAP. Had mine for a week now, still need to actually get the 3d going. Was unable to run the new cable to it thru the ceiling. Will either run cable direclty to it temporarily thru the holidays or get a new 3d blueray and hope the existing 5 year old HDMI cable passes the signal.
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I am using the same 25 foot hdmi cable that I used with my JVC RS20. It is around 5 years old so is not 1.4 certified but 3D works fine. It was bought from Monoprice and was much less expensive then any name brand.
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Just picked up my 6010 today.
Moving from a Nec Lt150 that I haven't used in a couple of years
Don't really have time to properly set it up today but I did connect it to my OPPO and it even looks good with a lot of ambient room light.
I can't wait to see it in our dark end room at night
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I have a 6010 coming in this week to replace my 7500ub. Have any of you guys seen the 6010 in non-3D compared to the 7500UB?
Any thoughts? I only have about 150hrs on my 7500 but am getting the itch. My only issue is i'm not sure at this point if its worth it given the lack of 3D available, but IF the 2400 lumens the 6010 puts out is substantially brighter than the 7500UB under non 3D content, that could push me over the edge...

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New too the projection world and will be buying one soon for by new theater room. Will have an approx. 100" diagonal screen.

I'm looking at the Epson 3010, 5010 and 6010. Big difference, I know. Trying to decide if it's worth the extra cash and if I should start with the 3010 and upgrade in a few years or jump to the 6010.

I can't seem to find anywhere to purchase the 6010. No local dealers here in Des Moines, IA.
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New too the projection world and will be buying one soon for by new theater room. Will have an approx. 100" diagonal screen.

I'm looking at the Epson 3010, 5010 and 6010. Big difference, I know. Trying to decide if it's worth the extra cash and if I should start with the 3010 and upgrade in a few years or jump to the 6010.

I can't seem to find anywhere to purchase the 6010. No local dealers here in Des Moines, IA.

No difference between 5010 and 6010 - Big Difference between 3010 and 5010 in my OPINION.
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On the debate between the 5010 model and the 6010 - if you break it down the 6010 is a far better buy with its extra spare lamp ($300), extra year of warranty ($400) and a really great customized heavy duty ceiling mount ($300). These add up to $1000 but on top of those extras the 6010 has THX certification and can also do the anamorphic bit too. Neither are available or can be added to the 5010.

Yeah that's a great super size me deal if you're going to spend more than 2500. But PQ wise the 5010 & 6010 is identical though right?
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Yeah that's a great super size me deal if you're going to spend more than 2500. But PQ wise the 5010 & 6010 is identical though right?

The specs are the same; however, the THX mode on the 6010 might offer slightly better PQ unless you want to go through the time and expense of calibrating the 5010 well.
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No difference between 5010 and 6010 - Big Difference between 3010 and 5010 in my OPINION.

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Where can I get the 6010 from? I looked in Epson's web page and it does not even give me a dealer locator.

If you are looking for one feel free to PM me I have some in stock I am in NJ so you would have to be driving distance from me, If not I may be able to recommend someone.

I set up the projector last week and all I can say is the image is great, nice accurate colors easy to set the colors and balance out, much better than some projectors, it is bright I have some Panasonics and this projector is much brighter with much better whites. Also sharpness and detail is great. The only down side I have seen is the frame interpolation is not great, but I am using an outside video processor so that may not be playing nice with it and the 3d glasses I don't like they don't fit my face well and feel bulky also the lenses are small, other than that for the price it has exceeded my expectations in many areas.

The mount they supply is a locking cheif mount and is great. However it comes with a short tube if you need to drop the projector more than about a foot you will have to purchase an additional tube. It also has a spair bulb which is nice I alwas like to have one on hand.

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The specs are the same; however, the THX mode on the 6010 might offer slightly better PQ unless you want to go through the time and expense of calibrating the 5010 well.

I was using the THX mode on a BD. It still needs to be calibrated a bit. but better than some of the other modes.

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I just became an Epson dealer I can get the 6010 PM me with questions

Ordered my Epson 6010 from mikey15...it arrives Thursday. Easy and fast. Thanks Mike!
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Just got my 6010. Got it fast. I can't wait to get it up.
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I am having a problem with my 6010. When watching a Black & White movie there is a pink color cast on the right side of my screen. The left side is perfect Black & White but the right side seems to gradually change to a pinkish cast. There is not a distinct line where the change occurs, but very gradual, and enough to drive me crazy. I tried changing the HDMI cable and also tried a different DVD player, but it made no difference. I called Epson, and although there customer service is very polite, they don't seem to have much in the knowledge department. They will exchange the projector for me, but l thought l would ask if anyone else has encountered this problem.
Thankyou in advance for any help/suggestions. multicat
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I am having a problem with my 6010. When watching a Black & White movie there is a pink color cast on the right side of my screen. The left side is perfect Black & White but the right side seems to gradually change to a pinkish cast. There is not a distinct line where the change occurs, but very gradual, and enough to drive me crazy. I tried changing the HDMI cable and also tried a different DVD player, but it made no difference. I called Epson, and although there customer service is very polite, they don't seem to have much in the knowledge department. They will exchange the projector for me, but l thought l would ask if anyone else has encountered this problem.
Thankyou in advance for any help/suggestions. multicat

Did you try converging - Pixel Alignment - of the PJ?
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I am having a problem with my 6010. When watching a Black & White movie there is a pink color cast on the right side of my screen. The left side is perfect Black & White but the right side seems to gradually change to a pinkish cast. There is not a distinct line where the change occurs, but very gradual, and enough to drive me crazy. I tried changing the HDMI cable and also tried a different DVD player, but it made no difference. I called Epson, and although there customer service is very polite, they don't seem to have much in the knowledge department. They will exchange the projector for me, but l thought l would ask if anyone else has encountered this problem.
Thankyou in advance for any help/suggestions. multicat

Hmm . . . That's not good. LCD panels are plagued by this color uniformity issue. Almost EVERY LCD projector I have had suffered from this. Usually I noticed a slight bluish tinge on one side and a slight pinkish tinge on the other side. It's usually pretty subtle and not at all noticeable when there's color on the screen. However, when there's a large area of white on the image, then it becomes apparent. Obviously any black and white movie will also bring this out.

I think there is a setting under the "color temperature" menu that is supposed to be good for black and white movies. Check there. I'm just going by what I remember reading since I don't have a 6010 myself, but I think that setting is supposed to improve black and white images.
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I ended up getting a 6010 for myself. The 61000 won't have quite have the throw ratio I need for my room. The 6010 is considerably brighter than my Vidikron model 65 that was 1200 lumens. I use my living room that has a full wall of southern windows and is very well lit. I was watching ESPN at noon yesterday with the sun shining through and was very happy with the picture on my 110" Stewart Firehawk screen. This is my first LCD projector as my others have all been DLP and I am very pleased with it. I am a ISF calibrator and plan on calibrating it but I don't think it is going to be very far off.
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So gang...for a 120" diag screen. Would your recommend a 1.3 gain vs. a 1.0 - soley for the purpose of being able to run in eco mode with thx setting of course.

I do have total light control, but I want to be able to watch the super bowl, etc with some ambient light of course.
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I ended up getting a 6010 for myself. The 61000 won't have quite have the throw ratio I need for my room. The 6010 is considerably brighter than my Vidikron model 65 that was 1200 lumens. I use my living room that has a full wall of southern windows and is very well lit. I was watching ESPN at noon yesterday with the sun shining through and was very happy with the picture on my 110" Stewart Firehawk screen. This is my first LCD projector as my others have all been DLP and I am very pleased with it. I am a ISF calibrator and plan on calibrating it but I don't think it is going to be very far off.

I'm still holding out (barely) for the 61000, but the 6010 is next on the list and it looks like I'll probably end up with it within the next month. Would you mind posting your settings numbers after you calibrate your 6010? I know each projector is different, but it would be a good starting point. Thanks.
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I am having a problem with my 6010. When watching a Black & White movie there is a pink color cast on the right side of my screen. The left side is perfect Black & White but the right side seems to gradually change to a pinkish cast. There is not a distinct line where the change occurs, but very gradual, and enough to drive me crazy. I tried changing the HDMI cable and also tried a different DVD player, but it made no difference. I called Epson, and although there customer service is very polite, they don't seem to have much in the knowledge department. They will exchange the projector for me, but l thought l would ask if anyone else has encountered this problem.
Thankyou in advance for any help/suggestions. multicat

My 9500 is showing very slight green on top and pink on the bottom. Of course, most noticable on B&W movies.

My installer has seen it and agrees with me. He says they don't make the 9500 anymore but he'd look into it.

I emailed him to ask if he had forgotten me, but no reply. I guess he left me in the wind.

I was hoping maybe for the 6010...but it has the same problem, that's not good?

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So, my brain is confused a bit about screen sizes and anamorphic lenses.

If I make a DIY screen in a 2.35:1 shape (or is that supposed to be 2.4:1?), AND the optional lens is attached to the 6010, then when I would play back a 2.35:1 movie, the entire screen would be filled. Then if I watched an HDTV 16:9 source, I would have pillar box columns. And some folks come up with ways of masking the sides of the screen with black velvet or other material. Is that right? Both the HDTV And widescreen movie would have the same screen height? Is that the CIH that I've seen mentioned around these parts?

Or, do you need to remove the optional lens to be able to correctly watch 16:9 material (and still deal with possiy masking the left and right sides of the screen)?

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So gang...for a 120" diag screen. Would your recommend a 1.3 gain vs. a 1.0 - soley for the purpose of being able to run in eco mode with thx setting of course.

I do have total light control, but I want to be able to watch the super bowl, etc with some ambient light of course.

I am getting a 6010 in a few weeks and posed this same q to AV Science and they recommended a 120in Da-Lite Cinema Vision screen with 1.3 gain....that's what I am planning on....

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I am getting a 6010 in a few weeks and posed this same q to AV Science and they recommended a 120in Da-Lite Cinema Vision screen with 1.3 gain....that's what I am planning on....

Wow, that is the same screen I am going to have - On some testing with a slightly older 720p, the 1.3 gain material just POPS - even in total light control vs. the 1.0 (I have a sample for testing)

I really like the 1.3 Cinema Vision...
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I seem to recall reading about lamp issues with the last crop(s) of Epson projectors, I think the 8700UB and perhaps its predecessor. If that's true is it known if the lamps in the 5010/6010 are a different design re: worrying about lamp issues? Any reports of any lamp issues with 5010/6010 (e.g., premature extreme dimming)?

Also, any reports of dust blobs with the 5010/6010?
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